Character Creator & Character Customization (Official Thread)

This atrocity is probably the result of data collected by Bioware showing that most people played as default Shepards.

"How much time and money did we spend on the character creator for the last 3 games?"
"This much."
"Huh...well only 10% of players actually used the CC, so we're going to spend only 10% of what we spent working on it last time, this time."

The complaint is simply that I knew immediately upon seeing Ashe's Ryder that that was head 8, despite the lack of the Sloane-hair, because the face is just--head 8. The nose, eye, brow, and lip shapes can't be altered, only things like lip thickness and nose size, resulting in very similar looks overall. 

There are 8 bajillion different tattoo and makeup options, which can be great, but the basic facial shapes are limited to each preset and there aren't many hair options. 

I did check out Ashe's video because you mentioned it, and I see now that her graphics setup is superior to other vids I've watched, which make the noses of the presets at least look more different from each other and Biofan's setup makes the hair textures look nicer. I also love that Ashe showed the Training options, which has me excited.

But I'd really prefer to be able to alter the presets by choosing other noses, other eyebrows, other lips, and other eyes--not to make things pretty, but to make the character look how I want them to look and not like everyone else's head 1 or head 8. 

That's where the unhappiness is coming from. Not because you can't make something that looks good, but because we've got around 9 different cookie cutter options with very minimal differences from one another. 

The thing is, the reason I used default Shepard was because the CC was so bad.

Been thinking about it. I think MEA's CC vs say, Inquisition's CC is comparable to the iphone camera vs a really high end DSLR.
For average players everyone can make pretty decent looking characters in MEA, but everyone's character will look a bit similar and bland. While in Inquisition it would take quite a bit of effort to make the character work, but he/she has the potential to be quite unique.

I'm Asian myself, and seeing decent Asian faces is pretty nice. But I'll bet all the Asians we can make will all look quite similar to each other.

Just a design decision that traded complexity for utility, sacrificing the real high end stuff for the average quality.
It's fine and all. For me? I'd put 10 hours into one face to make it feel right, so this is truly disappointing.

Apparently Gumby and Pokie are the Adam and Eve of the Mass Effect Universe. There are some rough play dough animations.

And everyone looks like they have dumb face

I've sat on it and watched multiple CC vids and none of the presets feel like they have the potential to be my Ryder. And since the sliders only exist for show they cant fix it. This reveal has single handedly ruined my hype for the game. It may not be a big deal for some but making a character that feels right has always been my favourite part of BW games and I just love playing with character creators in general. Knowing that they could have just used the DAI CC as base and tweaked that just adds insult to the injury.

This close to launch my only hope now is that default Ryders become tweakable. Default Sara is the one preset I feel has potential but ofc BW is going with their backwards ideology of 'iconic' and 'untouchable'.

Unless a miracle happens and more options appear on the early access on 16th, it seems I'm waiting for modders to make the default twins tweakable before buying on sale ._.

I'm happy that the presets please those less willing to put time in character creation but they could have just had decent presets and good sliders to please all off us. I mean it's nice there's finally some proper asian and black faces but what's with the faketan potato with plastic blonde wig D:

How the hell is the CC worse than DAI . It seems worse than ME2 even  .

This seals it. I'm canceling my preorder. I'll play it in a month or two when it's patched and improved.

I was fairly sure you could edit everything completely, but apparently not. Is there not a way to not use a preset? Anyways, I'm fairly upset at the lack of female hair options. There are no afros or curly hair for women. It's all shoulder length parted hair. The only GOOD, DIFFERENT hair are the corn rows, and the only good looking face is Head 8, which it looks like I won't be changing at all because it's the only one that's good all the way through.

I think my biggest gripe is the beards for the BroRyder...where's a light/mid five o'clock shadow? I mean clearly there's a whole thick stubble going on. It's sort of like they went with extremes... SUPER STYLED... SUPER THICK STUBBLE... SUPER THICK STUBBLE-MUTTON CHOP BEARD...

But no 'Eh I missed a day or two on shaving'. At least give us something close to Default Ryder's beard, or just give us that as an option. :/

The scar-selection are a bit odd, not the scars themselves, but the difference between a few of them is simply placement. Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't we drag and place scars in DA:I?

I agree with you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Unfortunately, I am beholding only 1 pretty option for female, and it means I would have to play as an Asian character (which I am not opposed to per se, but would likely not be my canon character).  If I could mix and match the lips, eyes, noses, etc that they provide in these static presets, then I could most likely create a character that a) I find attractive and that is a character I can roleplay with because they look how I want them to.  Even if all 9 options were beautiful to me, I would still be unable to make MY character, because I am given static faces instead a true character creator.

I am slightly annoyed that so many reviews online called this a "deep" character creator.  It is more of a character "chooser", with the exception of coloring and make-up.

For me, I might as well play with the defaults, which are just as  generic as the presets. They are all equally "not my character", so I may as well save time and skip the character chooser in this game.

Oh well...at least the combat looks fun...

All I have to say at this point is 2 things:

1) Guys, this sucks.

2) As a PC player I'm hoping the modders are able to work literal miracles.