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Post by Amirit on Dec 28, 2016 16:26:50 GMT
So, for MRyder it's a supermodel Steven Brewis (I wish they used fem super model for default female protagonist for once) But now I wander who is that model they made new Asari after...
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Post by Serza on Dec 28, 2016 17:10:58 GMT
I knew the guy couldn't've been someone with any amount of near-military background.
Then again, they're civilians, so whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 18:10:28 GMT
I knew the guy couldn't've been someone with any amount of near-military background.Then again, they're civilians, so whatever. Military people don't have any one look. Sure, they've all got similar haircuts & wear uniforms when on duty...but facial features can be as varied as people in any other profession. Even if Ryder did have a military background, I don't see any reason why that guy couldn't be used as the face model. His mug is no less plausible than the one used for Sheploo.
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Post by Serza on Dec 28, 2016 18:25:43 GMT
Yeah... was actually basing that off the haircut.
It was just a hunch, and this time, it was right. Probably not happening the next time I have one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 18:32:44 GMT
Supermodel? That seems a stretch.
But, yeah, it would be nice to see who the face models are for the different people if they have them. I suspect that Sarah has one too. Her look feels a little "uncanny valley", which is what happens when they try to do that (think Miranda and Diana). I also suspect that hers will look more like the actual face model once it's patched up. Just like his does. The first time we saw Scott, he didn't look much like Steven Brewis either.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 28, 2016 19:11:23 GMT
Supermodel? That seems a stretch. But, yeah, it would be nice to see who the face models are for the different people if they have them. I suspect that Sarah has one too. Her look feels a little "uncanny valley", which is what happens when they try to do that (think Miranda and Diana). I also suspect that hers will look more like the actual face model once it's patched up. Just like his does. The first time we saw Scott, he didn't look much like Steven Brewis either. Maybe they mean his hands.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 28, 2016 19:12:36 GMT
This is something I'm scratching my head over since i could have sworn Mac said one of the reasons facial animation was so late for the polishing stage was because they weren't mo cap scans.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 28, 2016 19:14:58 GMT
This is something I'm scratching my head over since i could have sworn Mac said one of the reasons facial animation was so late for the polishing stage was because they weren't mo cap scans. They could have just scanned the face for the appearance and then animated it in their usual way. They've done that before like with characters who were based off people like default male Shepard, Miranda, etc.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 28, 2016 20:21:00 GMT
Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
Seems like both Ryders were facially mocapped. Fabrice mentioned that they are actively polishing these animations. So I expect the final product to show some facial awesomeness, for once.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 28, 2016 20:39:50 GMT
So wait, who are the other "customizable characters" besides BroRyder and SisRyder? Alec, maybe. But who else?
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 28, 2016 20:41:37 GMT
Surely a 'model' could be literally anyone who is paid to be photographed? That term could encompass a wide range of 'looks'... ? This link, for example, is to the 'ugly models agency' www.ugly.org/2016/men
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Post by Muddy Boots on Dec 28, 2016 21:44:09 GMT
So wait, who are the other "customizable characters" besides BroRyder and SisRyder? Alec, maybe. But who else? Maybe the premades that usually come with it that you can then customize. There's usually a few base faces to choose from. I think that's what they mean. I'm hoping that the default PCs can be also tweaked a bit.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Dec 28, 2016 22:11:08 GMT
So wait, who are the other "customizable characters" besides BroRyder and SisRyder? Alec, maybe. But who else? Maybe the premades that usually come with it that you can then customize. There's usually a few base faces to choose from. I think that's what they mean. I'm hoping that the default PCs can be also tweaked a bit. I think this might be accurate. In addition to the defaults, the handful of usual customizable presets are now based on face scanned models or actors.
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Post by Warrick on Dec 28, 2016 23:31:33 GMT
The developers should put their faces in the game like in NBA Hang Time.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Dec 29, 2016 0:32:34 GMT
Uhm....thank god I will be able to modify him
Etrius Ryder will look EXACTLY like Etrius Shepard
Yeah....screw you bioware, you and your need to change protagonists lol
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Post by Lorn on Jan 1, 2017 11:50:43 GMT
Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
Seems like both Ryders were facially mocapped. Fabrice mentioned that they are actively polishing these animations. So I expect the final product to show some facial awesomeness, for once. BioWare having decent animation for once? What galaxy areally you living in?
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Post by ulmanicator on Jan 1, 2017 14:17:10 GMT
So wait, who are the other "customizable characters" besides BroRyder and SisRyder? Alec, maybe. But who else? Maybe the premades that usually come with it that you can then customize. There's usually a few base faces to choose from. I think that's what they mean. I'm hoping that the default PCs can be also tweaked a bit. Premades that are based on real faces? Sounds incredible for me. Hope it's true.
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Post by derrame on Jan 1, 2017 14:24:04 GMT
PB is based on scan too? and what about krogans, turians, kett, based on scans as well?
awesome
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 1, 2017 15:21:25 GMT
Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
Seems like both Ryders were facially mocapped. Fabrice mentioned that they are actively polishing these animations. So I expect the final product to show some facial awesomeness, for once. BioWare having decent animation for once? What galaxy areally you living in? ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
A galaxy called Andromeda, obviously. Here is what Fabrice had to say, regarding feedback on poor facial animation and lip syncing. Fabrice Condominas: "We are absolutely working on it. As was mentioned in the tweets it's actually something that comes last in the polishing stage. We've been using full facial capture for the first time to record the actor's performance and it's also the first time for BioWare [using this technique] working in Frostbite - I think we're beginning to push that fairly far. We're actively working on it and it's the last thing to be polished before we do a manual pass and really, really tweak all those movements because we first wanted to make sure the dialogue is final and settled. "
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Post by JayKay on Jan 1, 2017 19:39:36 GMT
This is something I'm scratching my head over since i could have sworn Mac said one of the reasons facial animation was so late for the polishing stage was because they weren't mo cap scans. I think they were working on the other characters first, outside of the Ryders. I mean, if you look at that scene and look at Kelley's facial animation, she looks GREAT. I think they were saving the player characters for last because they knew they would spend the most time on them.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Jan 1, 2017 19:57:20 GMT
Default faces for both M/Fryder look good to me. I most likely wont be bothered to try and make my own. Just can't be bothered any more. Especially when it makes no narrative difference. You could try and make the most grotesque face possible, if a character is scripted to call you attractive, they'll still call you attractive.
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Post by London on Jan 2, 2017 18:42:24 GMT
Steven Brewis is hot. But give us some hot females too. I don't care if it's a hottie simulator =) People who want an average Sarah can just make her that way from custom options.
I kinda wish Sarah looked more like Claire Redfield from RE2. She was cute/hot. Anyway not sure what that has to do with scans.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 2, 2017 19:22:19 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Well, we also know that FemRyder also has a face model. I just wonder who. Is it the voice actress herself?
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Post by Serza on Jan 3, 2017 10:26:42 GMT
That's a good question. Wondering that myself.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 3, 2017 17:10:43 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Well, we also know that FemRyder also has a face model. I just wonder who. Is it the voice actress herself?
We know the voice actress is Fryda Wolff. From looking up images of her, I would not say that SisRyder's face is based on Fryda. Must be someone else. BroRyder's face model is also not his voice actor.
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