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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 12:50:38 GMT
Love the concept of the movie.. but something about Chriss Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence I'm like; meh. Perhaps its the age difference? The pairing sounds wrong. But I'm still intriqued in the movie because I think they are both great actors. Either really wrong, or really boring. Also, not to be an SJW but it feels off to feature such a plain white GAP couple in such a fantastic futuristic setting. I'm not complaining... it's not bad. It's just... it would've been a more provocative look to have one Asian in there or something. Unfornately the state of Hollywood and cinema at the moment is to get actors that sell, that are known names. So it is mostly white people at this point, a few black people and no Asians.
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Post by CursedPanther on Jan 4, 2017 7:13:01 GMT
Without giving too much spoiler of that movie, it's also about a giant space ark carrying thousands of passengers to a far far place in the galaxy on a journey of around 120 years. One main reason for me being interested in this movie is becuz of MEA and it is sorta a warmup thing before the game is released.
Anyway the main plot of the movie has got me thinking, if the journey of merely one-fifth of what the Andromeda Initiative has planned in length is already that taxing on the mind(it's not just about the cryostasis) and easily prone to having technical issues, how does one even maintain a fleet of ships and its occupants for that long in space? The closest thing that come to my mind is the Quarian migration fleet. However the biggest difference is that the Quarians have maintained contact with the rest of the civilization and routinely bring back supplies and spare parts for maintenance. Meanwhile traveling between galaxies is a whole lot of nothing in between. No supply station, no one stopping by to help if something breaks down. You are literally on your own all the way.
I'm aware that the game may simply lightly brush through the initial journey and begin at the point where we've already arrived in Andromeda safe and sound somehow. Still it's something I feel like the need to get off my chest and ask what is everyone's opinion.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 4, 2017 7:16:34 GMT
Technology lasts as long as the plot requires in most of these things. If the story is about the perils of space flight, then technology is more likely to be presented as being more fragile and requiring constant care, because that's what drives the story forward. If the story is simply about going a great distance in space and dealing with what you find at the end of the trip, then all that stuff about maintaining the ship gets swept aside, because you can't have this space adventure that's squarely about the destination getting bogged down by Apollo 13 Effect. Nothing in Mass Effect should realistically keep running after ages of constant activity or exposure. No matter what the prothean beacons are made of, at some point, their compounds would decompose.
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Post by zarrokhai on Jan 4, 2017 7:19:52 GMT
Well according to some sources your sibling(the one you don't pick to play) suffers some kind of cryosleep complication that prevents them from participating in fields ops. So safe and sound isn't really the word I would use. My guess is there are some technical complications that arise throughout the journey that we have to deal with when we get to Andromeda. But this story isn't really about the journey but the destination. The focus is Andromeda so the entire journey might take place within the prologue mission.
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Post by ulmanicator on Jan 4, 2017 8:41:32 GMT
If the devs will bother to explain anything to us, I'd rather hear about how we managed to build arks which are able to reach Andromeda in just 600 years. The vast majority of MW tech is based on Reapers', and since the creation of Andromeda Initiative isn't in their best interests, it'll be interesting to find out why AI was founded and what boosted it's development.
BTW, ark from Passangers looks very cool both inside and outside.
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Post by CursedPanther on Jan 4, 2017 9:12:21 GMT
If the devs will bother to explain anything to us, I'd rather hear about how we managed to build arks which are able to reach Andromeda in just 600 years. The vast majority of MW tech is based on Reapers', and since the creation of Andromeda Initiative isn't in their best interests, it'll be interesting to find out why AI was founded and what boosted it's development. BTW, ark from Passangers looks very cool both inside and outside. I agree. Bioware is definitely setting up a few things up for the advertisement campaign featuring the background of the AI program. It'd be such a waste of potential if the MEA introduction is just the casual 'Wham bam here we are at Andromeda finally! Now everyone get off the ship!' routine.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 4, 2017 16:26:01 GMT
I think you hit the nail on the head, the "how" and other aspects of the journey and arrival seem like they may be downplayed, in favor of more of the same from the trilogy. I hope that's not the case. That's the good, interesting stuff.
To the question though, I would expect the answer is the same as in Passengers- AIs/VIs and other intelligent automated systems. The ships are pretty much just running in a straight line, just like the movie. Barring outside influences, they should be fine. And there's far less of a chance of those in intergalactic space.
Excellent visuals in Passengers by the way. Definitely recommend it for anyone who hasn't seen it. It's also fundamentally a people story. Don't go in expecting a sci-fi thriller like Solaris, and you should be fine. It has its flaws, but nowhere near the level the critics are ripping into.
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Post by Thrombin on Jan 4, 2017 17:14:20 GMT
If the devs will bother to explain anything to us, I'd rather hear about how we managed to build arks which are able to reach Andromeda in just 600 years. The vast majority of MW tech is based on Reapers', and since the creation of Andromeda Initiative isn't in their best interests, it'll be interesting to find out why AI was founded and what boosted it's development. BTW, ark from Passangers looks very cool both inside and outside. The journey time of 600 years is already consistent with the distance to Andromeda and the FTL capability of the MW races prior to the Reaper invasion. So no explanation is necessary other than how to get round the problem of being unable to discharge the mass effect core with no planets or suns on route. But we've already had that explanation in the briefing in the form of the ODSY drive. Based on the briefings the reason for going to Andromeda is one of exploration and of exploiting the resource rich Andromeda with a view to setting up a permanent link with the Milky Way. As for the AI not being in the Reapers best interests I would argue that it is. Their primary interest is ensuring that the races in the MW galaxy are removed from that Galaxy prior to them achieving a level of technology that might cause the creation of a synthetic intelligence that would threaten the entirety of organic life in the MW. They have never shown any interest in trying to contain the technology levels of races in other Galaxies (that would be entirely impractical to even contemplate given how many other Galaxies there are and the distances involved). So if the MW races up and leave the MW and go elsewhere then their doing the Reaper's job for them by removing themselves. Just 100,000 less people they need to harvest when the time comes. Of course, Sovereign was the only Reaper in a position to even know about the AI at that point and he was much more concerned with fixing the problem with the Citadel so that he could signal the invasion.
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Post by London on Jan 5, 2017 8:35:30 GMT
This movie was great and it made me think of ME:A quite a bit. I like both of thr leads. Pratt and Lawrence are both box office draws for me.
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Post by CursedPanther on Jan 5, 2017 9:21:50 GMT
This movie was great and it made me think of ME:A quite a bit. I like both of thr leads. Pratt and Lawrence are both box office draws for me. There are few barely passable plot devices I can't get outta my head. Overall the movies isn't bad effort indeed.
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Post by Kantr on Jan 5, 2017 11:00:33 GMT
I skipped seeing this movie when I learnt the actual twist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 15:36:51 GMT
I didn't want to see this film after learning of the twist, but I had prebooked tickets with a friend and fellow sci-fi (and Chris Pratt fan) so I went along anyway interested to see if I'd be as disappointed and somewhat angry with the film and the duplicitous marketing like other people and critics who have seen it.
Visuals and design are good. No complaints. Overall though, I feel it has a very different look and aesthetic as to what Andromeda is going for (based from what we have seen).
AS for everything else, this film is bad. The characters are so thinly written its appalling, and the whole premise and everything is deeply troubling, and it is impossible to root for the characters, and to somewhat enjoy the film post-twist.
Others have written in greater detail and depth as to why this film is so bad on a story and character level, and its deeply problematic premise, twist and implications thereof.
On a story and character level, the film completely fails, in mine, and others honest opinions.
Its a shame, because if it was told as a horror or thriller, instead of straight Hollywood romance (one of the films biggest problems and failings) then the film could have worked a million times better. There are so many areas that if they had been tweaked or changed then the film would have worked.
Because the visuals and other sci-fi elements are strong, and of a high caliber, but the failing and troubling issues of the narrative bring everything else down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 19:09:13 GMT
Seems like the reviews have largely been negative. Currently sitting at 30% on Rotten Tomatoes...
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