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Post by derrame on Jan 11, 2017 5:10:53 GMT
Hello there space people
in the videos we see characters with white armor and characters with black N7 armor, are the pathfinders not N7? why are the N7 even in the Andromeda Iniciative?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 11, 2017 5:12:26 GMT
There is no connection between the Pathfinders and N7 other than the fact that the Human Pathfinder Alec Ryder happens to have been a N7.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 11, 2017 5:15:03 GMT
Pathfinder is probably like a Spectre in the MWG. Though with more of an exploration then a military focus. And not all Spectres were N7s (in fact only one was) so the other pathfinders are not N7s either. Though they may be from similar organizations like Asari commandos or STG.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 11, 2017 5:36:18 GMT
Officially, there is no connection, but given the skills N7s are known to have, it makes sense that humans would look to them for pathfinders.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 11, 2017 7:06:54 GMT
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Post by Serza on Jan 11, 2017 7:51:07 GMT
N7 is the only Systems Alliance military designation permitted for use on military uniforms.
Makes sense he'd keep it, because being ACCEPTED in the N-programme is an immense honor, no matter if you actually make N1 or not. N7s are like Chuck Norris. In space. Best of the best make it into the sorting hat that is the N-programme. Then the very best of that already narrow amount of troops ever make it to N7.
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Post by JokeDealer on Jan 11, 2017 8:18:42 GMT
Based on what we've seen in the orientation vids, the Pathfinders are supposed to be our best hope for survival in Andromeda. They're meant to go out and blaze a trail -- investigate potentially habitable areas and ensure that they're safe for colonization. Considering that each Ark has a Pathfinder, that there's a different race on each Ark, and that N7 is an Alliance Navy ranking, I doubt that the two are synonymous. That being said, an N7 operative would surely possess the necessary skills to be a Pathfinder. Given that there are plenty of them, sending one or two off to another galaxy isn't a huge loss.
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Post by Saboru on Jan 11, 2017 10:29:25 GMT
N7 is the only Systems Alliance military designation permitted for use on military uniforms. I can't decide if that was by order of Systems Alliance Media Operations or someone very senior had a relative with a military themed clothing business.
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Post by KamenRyder on Jan 11, 2017 11:36:16 GMT
N7 is the only Systems Alliance military designation permitted for use on military uniforms. Makes sense he'd keep it, because being ACCEPTED in the N-programme is an immense honor, no matter if you actually make N1 or not. N7s are like Chuck Norris. In space. Best of the best make it into the sorting hat that is the N-programme. Then the very best of that already narrow amount of troops ever make it to N7. Just knowing about the training nightmares those SAS and SEAL guys go through, imagining the entry requirements of N7 makes my head and body hurt. Even washouts of the N program get mad props.
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 11, 2017 17:37:17 GMT
more of Bioware 's stupid ass uneducated knowledge of what real Military command ranks are oh and i pray the N7 crap died when shepard died in 3
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Post by Cypher on Jan 11, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
more of Bioware 's stupid ass uneducated knowledge of what real Military command ranks are oh and i pray the N7 crap died when shepard died in 3 The hell are you going on about?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 11, 2017 22:38:33 GMT
more of Bioware 's stupid ass uneducated knowledge of what real Military command ranks are oh and i pray the N7 crap died when shepard died in 3 The hell are you going on about? He lost me as well. I was just stating the wiki.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 12, 2017 7:47:01 GMT
N7 is a code designated to a Human Alliance military member. It arguably expanded for Shepard's use in ME2, and for bonding use for squads in ME3, but the official designation didn't change in the trilogy.
A Pathfinder doesn't have to be N7, but a N7 (Alec Ryder) was good enough to be a Pathfinder.
Now, there may be another requirement in order to be a Pathfinder. I have some ideas. But N7 are just (even since the start of ME1) considered the most generally capable folks in dangerous space environments. Getting Alec, I don't know whether this is the AI going for the best of the best, or settling for the worst of the best (considering his age), or maybe both. Maybe the whole AI has that undercurrent though. Or maybe its simply because he's the only one willing to go that would otherwise be retired and therefore allowed to go by the Alliance, and that's it.
The black armor and N7 Alec and all that is probably meant to evoke connection to the trilogy and the history and matters of the Milky Way, but the 'default' of things otherwise may be the white armor.
Once doesn't just 'drop' N7. Even Kai Leng was designed to keep a black armor (not that that necessarily means anything) and emotionally felt rivalry with another N7. When you try so hard to be at the top, you become part of it. For all we know, the identity of being N7 and the task of being Pathfinder may have conflicted somehow (directly or indirectly) for Alec in MEA.
Anyway, point is, they're not the same.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 12, 2017 9:18:03 GMT
N7 is a code designated to a Human Alliance military member. It arguably expanded for Shepard's use in ME2, and for bonding use for squads in ME3, but the official designation didn't change in the trilogy. A Pathfinder doesn't have to be N7, but a N7 (Alec Ryder) was good enough to be a Pathfinder. Now, there may be another requirement in order to be a Pathfinder. I have some ideas. But N7 are just (even since the start of ME1) considered the most generally capable folks in dangerous space environments. Getting Alec, I don't know whether this is the AI going for the best of the best, or settling for the worst of the best (considering his age), or maybe both. Maybe the whole AI has that undercurrent though. Or maybe its simply because he's the only one willing to go that would otherwise be retired and therefore allowed to go by the Alliance, and that's it. The black armor and N7 Alec and all that is probably meant to evoke connection to the trilogy and the history and matters of the Milky Way, but the 'default' of things otherwise may be the white armor. Once doesn't just 'drop' N7. Even Kai Leng was designed to keep a black armor (not that that necessarily means anything) and emotionally felt rivalry with another N7. When you try so hard to be at the top, you become part of it. For all we know, the identity of being N7 and the task of being Pathfinder may have conflicted somehow (directly or indirectly) for Alec in MEA. Anyway, point is, they're not the same. N7 are just the Navy Seals of the Alliance. Being a Pathfinder wouldn't be a conflict; it'd be no different than the UN sending a group of people to start a colony deep in the Amazon to do an extensive study on the rainforest around tribal villages with a Navy Seal or ex-Navy Seal involved..
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Post by CursedPanther on Jan 12, 2017 9:26:52 GMT
I just think that whoever is admitted into the N program will be given a much higher consideration priority for the job due to all his/her special and intense training received beforehand. You'd absolutely hate to have a Pathfinder pressing the distress button each time he/she can't figure out a way to climb over a rock or something.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 12, 2017 9:28:19 GMT
N7 is a code designated to a Human Alliance military member. It arguably expanded for Shepard's use in ME2, and for bonding use for squads in ME3, but the official designation didn't change in the trilogy. A Pathfinder doesn't have to be N7, but a N7 (Alec Ryder) was good enough to be a Pathfinder. Now, there may be another requirement in order to be a Pathfinder. I have some ideas. But N7 are just (even since the start of ME1) considered the most generally capable folks in dangerous space environments. Getting Alec, I don't know whether this is the AI going for the best of the best, or settling for the worst of the best (considering his age), or maybe both. Maybe the whole AI has that undercurrent though. Or maybe its simply because he's the only one willing to go that would otherwise be retired and therefore allowed to go by the Alliance, and that's it. The black armor and N7 Alec and all that is probably meant to evoke connection to the trilogy and the history and matters of the Milky Way, but the 'default' of things otherwise may be the white armor. Once doesn't just 'drop' N7. Even Kai Leng was designed to keep a black armor (not that that necessarily means anything) and emotionally felt rivalry with another N7. When you try so hard to be at the top, you become part of it. For all we know, the identity of being N7 and the task of being Pathfinder may have conflicted somehow (directly or indirectly) for Alec in MEA. Anyway, point is, they're not the same. N7 are just the Navy Seals of the Alliance. Being a Pathfinder wouldn't be a conflict; it'd be no different than the UN sending a group of people to start a colony deep in the Amazon to do an extensive study on the rainforest around tribal villages with a Navy Seal or ex-Navy Seal involved.. It'd be quite different since as far as we know, this is just an industrial endeavor when it comes down to it, not the 'UN'/Council. Does the Alliance frequently loan out their N7s to corporations? Retired N7, sure.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 13, 2017 4:47:04 GMT
more of Bioware 's stupid ass uneducated knowledge of what real Military command ranks are oh and i pray the N7 crap died when shepard died in 3 I don't think N7 gives the rank of "Commander". I think Shepard earned that rank. Lee Riley had the rank of captain and was an N7. David Anderson was an admiral. N7 is special forces. Why would it die with Shepard? Alec Ryder is an N7 and carried it to Andromeda. There's also some indication that one or both of his children might receive N7 armor at some point in ME:A.
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Post by NRieh on Jan 14, 2017 9:12:36 GMT
There is no connection whatsoever. From the earliest interviews and up to the beginning of the mass marketing we've been told that we're not the N7, we're not warriors, we're explorers blah-blah. And then someone realized that they need some iconic and recognizable shit on the cover. So: - PC had been confirmed as 'not-N7' - Reapers are not there yet - we're heading for the exploration mission - there's a random N7 guy with Avenger and the 'cool-looking' burning planet reflected in his helmet on the cover\in promo vids and pictures - there's a stupid 'new hero rises to save humanity' line I'd say that it's possibly Alec (because... hey, we all know it's such a great idea to put PC's dad on the lead cover!), but there are also some pictures featuring the 'possibly-female' N7 character. Could it be mommy? Our auntie?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 9:59:29 GMT
There is no connection whatsoever. From the earliest interviews and up to the beginning of the mass marketing we've been told that we're not the N7, we're not warriors, we're explorers blah-blah. And then someone realized that they need some iconic and recognizable shit on the cover. So: - PC had been confirmed as 'not-N7' - Reapers are not there yet - we're heading for the exploration mission - there's a random N7 guy with Avenger and the 'cool-looking' burning planet reflected in his helmet on the cover\in promo vids and pictures - there's a stupid 'new hero rises to save humanity' line I'd say that it's possibly Alec (because... hey, we all know it's such a great idea to put PC's dad on the lead cover!), but there are also some pictures featuring the 'possibly-female' N7 character. Could it be mommy? Our auntie? Alec bites the dust somewhere while PC INHERITS the armor during the game.
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Post by NRieh on Jan 14, 2017 11:47:12 GMT
Riiiight... Because that's what people normally do with their dead parents. They undress them and put their clothes on...Now that's a new approach to the 'daddy's issues'. I imagine Sara is going to have especially hard time wearing the oversized second-hand male suit of armour. Not to mention that anyone with a hint of respect understands that N7 is a special thing, the right to wear that logo is earned hard way. It's not something that can be slapped on 'just because'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 12:26:34 GMT
Riiiight... Because that's what people normally do with their dead parents. They undress them and put their clothes on...Now that's a new approach to the 'daddy's issues'. I imagine Sara is going to have especially hard time wearing the oversized second-hand male suit of armour. Not to mention that anyone with a hint of respect understands that N7 is a special thing, the right to wear that logo is earned hard way. It's not something that can be slapped on 'just because'. That's just my take on why player Ryder gets the armor. Family members do wear the military clothing for sentimental reasons.
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