The Tempest thread (confirmed 100% weaponry free)

you mean a way for bioware to put us at a disadvantage against the Kett and have it come and bite us in the ass even tho that would not make sense if those who were planning the Andromeda initiative had ANY common sense?


I find that almost insulting...

I don't believe many people are saying that. Mostly in this thread you see people who either don't care or expect plot details to explain why it is the way it is.

To keep the audience believing that this is a believable mission. lol

That's the point. Even if they didn't plan battles when the Tempest will fight, they specifically decided to clarify the ship doesn't have weapons. If they didn't say anything, we could very well think it has weapons regardless if they are used or not.

I suspect the 'happy apple pie' of the Andromeda Initiative is a starting point, and whether by lore ineptitude or a more cunning plan, finding the golden worlds less welcoming than expected has been foreseen and plotted by BioWare.

Whether it is a good plot remains to be seen, and just because these craft don't have weapons at the start doesn't mean they won't have at the end, or in future games...

Yes!!

Damn, I can't believe we are still debating this. The thing is, suppose you have all these people on the expedition. Naturally, you're going to have scientists (biologists, chemists, physicians, archaeologists, etc), engineers, soldiers, civilians, etc.

Now, suppose you have many teams of scientists. I wouldn't have any problem with their ships having no guns, being small in size, and letting them go out explore and discover more about the cosmos. But, they would do it AFTER we charted that region of space and established a bigger presence there.

Hell, aren't there only 4 pathfinders in the entire Andromeda Initiative? Isn't their mission to make a path, to create one? Venture into the unknown before anyone else, to find a new homeworld for their species? They are their leaders! What happens if they all die fighting an alien force? How many people could replace them, then? Aren't the pathfinders supposed to be some of the very best of what the Initiative has to offer? Like the promotional videos said: "A mix of elite soldier, explorer and guide".

So you are going to take this extremely valuable individual whose purpose is to chart new planets and systems in a new galaxy (that no one knows) to determine in which ones you can settle, alone with their crew, while the rest of their species hang solely on the hope of success of this mission, and you're going to put them in a ship with no offensive capabilities whatsoever because you come in peace? What the fuck is this? 

Aren't you there to "FIGHT FOR A NEW HOME!"?

How can not having basic weapon armaments on your ship or your ground vehicle possibly make up for that?

Wasn't the first Normandy blown to hell while using only stealth systems? Against an enemy they never met before? Wasn't humanity most advanced ship destruction in the news? And they launch this Initiative two years later with the mentality of "cool stealth for the pathfinders ships" solving everyone's problems?

no I meant as a general status not a gameplay feature

I can't answer that without knowing what the plot details are, which would make me a BioWare writer. If I were a BioWare writer, I definitely wouldn't be hanging out here.

If you're looking for speculation... in the realm of reality, the number of possible scenarios is infinite.

I think its worth pulling up, that we found out that the Tempest and Nomad would be weaponless, in an in-universe briefing video from the Andromeda Initiative. It wasn't a developer commentary or video. It was narrated by our own pilot.

Developer tweets to the contrary, since for this particular issue they are within keeping of what we've seen from the AI video, the whole peace stance and whatnot.

Given that all these briefings are before we actually set off for Andromeda, and again given what we see in the trailer (ships being attacked) I think it may be a little premature to write off the game yet. Plus what's with all the swearing at the moment, is that really necessary?

This is the first thread I've really come across here where some people are getting very angry and reactionary about this whole issue.