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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 18:07:25 GMT
I have run into an issue. I investigated the Question marks for experience points and loot. But now I am out of money for repairs. @_o
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 19, 2017 18:12:18 GMT
I have run into an issue. I investigated the Question marks for experience points and loot. But now I am out of money for repairs. @_o Uhm. I suppose you weren't lucky and looted any repair kits while exploring? If you really need cash, try gathering herbs and sell them to a herbalist. The honeycombs you can find in White Orchard sell for good money especially.
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 18:33:02 GMT
Okay scrunched up enough for a repair. Now it's contracts from here on out. More interesting anyway, I'm doing all this Witcher Hunting. I think I'm actually following a scent trail like a hunting hound right now. Lol it didn't point it out to me, I just happened to notice this bloody color trail in the air.
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 19, 2017 18:46:53 GMT
Okay scrunched up enough for a repair. Now it's contracts from here on out. More interesting anyway, I'm doing all this Witcher Hunting. I think I'm actually following a scent trail like a hunting hound right now. Lol it didn't point it out to me, I just happened to notice this bloody color trail in the air. I remember being in resource trouble early on in Velen but I remeber solving that by using a lot of non-witcher weapons and reapiring mainly the silver sword. There are a lot of cool looking gambesons out there. Like plaideweave tinting galore!
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 19:07:22 GMT
*grumble* the Regen rate on this werewolf is ridiculously high. 7 deaths later I'm calling it a day on the game.
It is interesting that the quest giver is himself the problem. And I thought it was the sister who killed Hannah and just didn't want me to find out.
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Post by LightningPoodle on Jan 19, 2017 19:36:02 GMT
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Post by Babar Guy on Jan 19, 2017 19:44:38 GMT
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
Consolidated Impression So Far with comparisons to Dragon Age
Various Things I like:
Voiced Over Introduction was intriguing. Better than DAI.
Tutorial was good because it incorporated story elements and you couldn't actually die during it. That's better than Origins and DAI.
One can light fire for light sources without having to be a mage.
Wind, clouds, stars, shooting stars, weather, night/day cycle = beautiful sunrises and sunsets. Very colorful in general.
Peasants and Guards recognize when your weapon is out and react. You can bump into people and they go "oof!' instead of the People WALLS of DA.
Mount!: The horse actually makes you go faster as compared to no increased speed mounts of DAI. I mean, it always seemed my Quiz could go just as fast walking. On top of that! it is a self pathing horse, so you just press X and enjoy the scenery with an occasional course adjustment. Or you can take total control. Also, does not disentegrate into black dust when you walk away. Helps immersion and as a devotee of Fast Travel in DAI, I have no urge to use it now. Horse refuses to go over cliffs or giant gaps in a bridge. like a normal horse would. haha
I like that they put the suggested path dots on the mini map and the exclamation points are more subtle.
I can swim! and jump in a realistic way, and climb rocks!
And there are kids all round who speak (if repetitively). And farm animals in town as well as wild animals out of town. And adults are gossiping and looking like they're working on daily tasks and not just standing there. Although, we did see soldiers practicing in Haven or at Skyhold with the Soldiers Ring upgrade.
I like that when Geralt takes a trophy, I see a little cinematic where he pulls out a dagger to cut off the head.
Random Side Quests are NOT fetch quests and you get the little nod of self worth when you clear an abandoned village of it's troubles.
Meditation for healing is cooler than sleeping in a tent (or pretending that you did, as you never actually see yourself entering)
I get to kneel on the ground! I think there should be more sitting on objects in these games.
I hope they keep having this merchant following me around. He's kinda ugly and has limited personality, but I like the Bodahn-like connection.
Your actions have consequences. I've already accidentally not thought through a handful of "choices" that resulted in bad things. This is good! even if I did feel like a shit. It's interesting, because even when you think you're making the "good" choice, it turns out not entirely to be right.
Interacting with your ward/kid in the dream sequence is neat. the only comparison I have for it is Clementine in TWD. I wish there had been more.
Things I didn't like:
As a new player, who did watch the first game and part of the second game on youtube...and still not knowing what's going on until you talk to people you don't get access to for the first 4+ hours of the game... I had to look up stuff online to figure out how I would handle a few choices. They also didn't reintroduce Witcher Neutrality very strongly. It was passing banter with the mentor. Game Import/Simulation of Choices never give you a frame of reference. I had to look outside the game for it. Prefer the DA style where it gives you a summary of the world state. I also wish they explained money a bit better? how can I haggle if I have no idea of the prices of things? Need a frame of reference.
Limited Flavor Text. It seems to be more about choosing to do or not do an action rather than expressing a personality through dialogue.
As of right now, I don't like either of the only two romance options I have. A red headed manipulative liar who took advantage of my memory loss and a raven haired Miss Mysterious who thinks I'm faking my memory loss but never tried to find me.
Dying from falling. Realism that just annoys me. Reduce my life to 1, but don't punish me for trying to control my video game character and not quite getting it right.
Horse Battle is a fail. I also don't get the horse fear thing. Geralt's horse should be made of sterner stuff.
Quests unlock access to people who can craft/repair stuff, so I'm having to fast travel back to the Starter Town to get it done right now until I advance. Also, Repairing? More realism I don't need.
Another realism I don't need is merchants with limited gold to sell to.
They do a lot right with the sky and weather, but their lightning looks pretty much like a white line drawn onto the sky. DAI has good lightning in Crest Wood.
On the Fence About: At first, I really liked the Witcher Senses zoom and highlight better than the golden ring of Hot Cold game that is finding things in Inquisition. Makes me feel like a person is looking instead of... Weird game mechanic. But the highlighted zones you are supposed to search with this are too large. There are two points where I just stopped using the senses and just wandered around looking with my eyes. It still took a long time. However, this mechanic allows "listening" and "smelling" which are unique and fun for this whole video game experience of tracking your prey/mission. So, I'd say tweak it way before getting rid of it.
Card games inside games. So long as they are optional...
The haggling is inconsistent? Sometimes I get to haggle, sometimes I don't.
I remember someone liking the Glory Kills of TW3. I find them kind of meh. The glory kills of origins I liked was climbing the Ogre and sinking a sword in it's head. This slow down thingie where I just put my sword through a mans' chest standing on the ground (if I manage to see it through the foliage) is a bit underwhelming. Alright. That's all I got up to this point, I think I'm 12 hours into the game. ArcadiaGreyThe above lacks spoilers, if you wanna check it out. I watched TW1 on youtube and it was interesting but it ultimately turned me off. Sex collector cards. Triss is shady right off the bat. Shiani is demanding and whiny. so so graphics. Apparently you have to meditate at campfires, which has you travelling miles just to take a nap and heal up. The crafting system seemed complicated and REQUIRED. I may have started with TW2 if it had similarly been available for free; better graphics, charasmatic King dude. Judging from the TW3 simulator, sounds like some good complicated Grey Choices. But as it was, my roommate had the PS4 and the Game available and free for me to use. So, that is where I started.
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 19, 2017 20:58:08 GMT
The above lacks spoilers, if you wanna check it out. I watched TW1 on youtube and it was interesting but it ultimately turned me off. Sex collector cards. Triss is shady right off the bat. Shiani is demanding and whiny. so so graphics. Apparently you have to meditate at campfires, which has you travelling miles just to take a nap and heal up. The crafting system seemed complicated and REQUIRED. I may have started with TW2 if it had similarly been available for free; better graphics, charasmatic King dude. Judging from the TW3 simulator, sounds like some good complicated Grey Choices. But as it was, my roommate had the PS4 and the Game available and free for me to use. So, that is where I started. Just wanted to wish you good luck with your endeavour... Hopefully you'll like it more than I did. I used to be a huge Witcher fan but after the third instalment I realised that everyone in the Witcher universe were assholes, bad shit kept happening just for the sake of it and that the creators don't give a damn about player choice nor continuity. I loved Ciri but that was it. I won't even go into that sex card stuff... In fact, Witcher 2 used to be like my favourite game. In TW2, I did all I could to build a nation not ruled by total assholes but then CD Projekt Red decided that everything I've done was meaningless and let Nilfgaardians capture the North anyway in TW3... And not a single reference was made to my ultimate effort in TW2. Good job guys. I guess TW3 is one of those games which you actually enjoy more if you have not played the earlier games. It's rather tragicomical.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:12:35 GMT
This has probably been asked a million times, but which game would you guys recommend starting at? I've tried The Witcher 1 and didn't like it, so can I start at 2 or 3? Does it really matter? Its hard for me to not recommend starting with The Witcher 2, then again it is one of my all time favourite games. Still i don't think it really matters. The Witcher 2 will give you a bit more insight into the world and its characters, but 3 starts on a blank enough slate that you will get into it quickly.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 19, 2017 21:15:53 GMT
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Yen considered the"canon" LI? Or is it Triss? This has probably been asked a million times, but which game would you guys recommend starting at? I've tried The Witcher 1 and didn't like it, so can I start at 2 or 3? Does it really matter? I jumped into W3 and just read the wiki when I got too confused about different factions, and I was fine. I think you'll be fine too if you decide to skip the second game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:18:15 GMT
Thanks for the feedback guys. I used to be a huge Witcher fan but after the third instalment I realised that everyone in the Witcher universe were assholes, bad shit kept happening just for the sake of it and that the creators don't give a damn about player choice nor continuity. I loved Ciri but that was it. I won't even go into that sex card stuff... In fact, Witcher 2 used to be like my favourite game. In TW2, I did all I could to build a nation not ruled by total assholes but then CD Projekt Red decided that everything I've done was meaningless and let Nilfgaardians capture the North anyway in TW3... And not a single reference was made to my ultimate effort in TW2. Good job guys. I guess TW3 is one of those games which you actually enjoy more if you have not played the earlier games. It's rather tragicomical. Aaaaand that's why I've never been interested in the series. Not respecting anything you did in TW2 must be a huge slap in the face, there I was raging that King Alistair didn't have a big enough part in DA:I but at least BioWare try to acknowledge some things. Also the 'everyone is an asshole and it's all super grim' thing just plain gets me down.
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 19, 2017 21:23:11 GMT
Aaaaand that's why I've never been interested in the series. Not respecting anything you did in TW2 must be a huge slap in the face, there I was raging that King Alistair didn't have a big enough part in DA:I but at least BioWare try to acknowledge some things. Also the 'everyone is an asshole and it's all super grim' thing just plain gets me down. Yeah, Bioware always remembers to respect player choice and it's so great that they do! The events in the previous games don't necessarily need to play a super big part, but -some- reference is definitely needed! ME was obviously spectacular in the player choice aspect but DA also handles it pretty well. But you can only imagine how I felt when I helped build that country and I was so full of optimism and then lol it just vanishes into the thin air in TW3 :'( :'( Yeah that grim stuff makes me depressed as well. That's why I keep my distance to the franchise nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:37:06 GMT
In fact, Witcher 2 used to be like my favourite game. In TW2, I did all I could to build a nation not ruled by total assholes but then CD Projekt Red decided that everything I've done was meaningless and let Nilfgaardians capture the North anyway in TW3... And not a single reference was made to my ultimate effort in TW2. Good job guys. I guess TW3 is one of those games which you actually enjoy more if you have not played the earlier games. It's rather tragicomical. That was actually my biggest problem with The Witcher 3, it didn't respect anything i did in the previous games, there is not like one choice that actually matters. The whole Vergen section was so fracking amazing in TW2 and it gets passed over in TW3 without a single mention (i believe) So i am with you there.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 19, 2017 21:40:12 GMT
No Ivorveth in the Witcher 3. Disappointing......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:45:40 GMT
No Ivorveth in the Witcher 3. Disappointing...... Or Saskia
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 19, 2017 22:07:06 GMT
No Ivorveth in the Witcher 3. Disappointing...... Or Saskia Yeah finally some soulmates... Vergen and Saskia F*** rest of the franchise but that Vergen chapter was pure gold.
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Post by Serza on Jan 19, 2017 22:20:32 GMT
Yeah, that sealed it for me. Roche's path.
It feels like going with Roche is actually rewarded in terms of an already grown relationship between the two.
And since Saesenthessis is never heard from again, just like Iorveth, it only multiplies the Vergen Hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:43:35 GMT
Yeah, that sealed it for me. Roche's path. It feels like going with Roche is actually rewarded in terms of an already grown relationship between the two. And since Saesenthessis is never heard from again, just like Iorveth, it only multiplies the Vergen Hurt. My issue is that i don't really care for Roche, i just got saddled with him because of Foltest. Also choosing that path means that i won't be able to help Zoltan, which feels uncharacteristic for Geralt. So even though TW3 spits on the Vergen path, it will always be my canon path.
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 19, 2017 23:11:01 GMT
Yeah, that sealed it for me. Roche's path. It feels like going with Roche is actually rewarded in terms of an already grown relationship between the two. And since Saesenthessis is never heard from again, just like Iorveth, it only multiplies the Vergen Hurt. My issue is that i don't really care for Roche, i just got saddled with him because of Foltest. Also choosing that path means that i won't be able to help Zoltan, which feels uncharacteristic for Geralt. So even though TW3 spits on the Vergen path, it will always be my canon path. I in fact accidentally chose Roche during the first playthrough... And then I was just gaping at Vergen when I finally got there. It's definitely canon for me - and I actually like to imagine that the whole story ended after Geralt saved Saskia and that Saskia actually held off the Nilfgaardians and became queen of Upper Aedirn and everyone lived happily ever after... Lol I know I'm a romantic but what can you do PS. Sorry for flooding the thread with offtopic... I just had this pent-up disappointment which I've been harbouring since 2015 and I can't help myself I'll go away now
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Post by phoray on Jan 20, 2017 0:57:56 GMT
WildfireNo no it's fine. So long as it doesn't spoil 3 I'm good. You guys are also making me very curious about this love story of TW2. Is it funny or sad that the epic love story of 2 is apparently NOT about the protagonist?
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Post by slimgrin on Jan 20, 2017 1:20:41 GMT
Wildfire No no it's fine. So long as it doesn't spoil 3 I'm good. You guys are also making me very curious about this love story of TW2. Is it funny or sad that the epic love story of 2 is apparently NOT about the protagonist? It's about manly Roche or dreamy Iorveth. Triss is too subversive for 90% of the game.
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2017 14:52:11 GMT
Thanks for the feedback guys. I used to be a huge Witcher fan but after the third instalment I realised that everyone in the Witcher universe were assholes, bad shit kept happening just for the sake of it and that the creators don't give a damn about player choice nor continuity. I loved Ciri but that was it. I won't even go into that sex card stuff... In fact, Witcher 2 used to be like my favourite game. In TW2, I did all I could to build a nation not ruled by total assholes but then CD Projekt Red decided that everything I've done was meaningless and let Nilfgaardians capture the North anyway in TW3... And not a single reference was made to my ultimate effort in TW2. Good job guys. I guess TW3 is one of those games which you actually enjoy more if you have not played the earlier games. It's rather tragicomical. Aaaaand that's why I've never been interested in the series. Not respecting anything you did in TW2 must be a huge slap in the face, there I was raging that King Alistair didn't have a big enough part in DA:I but at least BioWare try to acknowledge some things. Also the 'everyone is an asshole and it's all super grim' thing just plain gets me down. I know, right. Inquisition is demonized because King Alistair makes one (conditional) appearance. Yet when Witcher barely bothers to recognize choices from the previous game as ANYHOW relevant, it's still the holy fucking grail? That's some massive double standarts, folks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 14:59:02 GMT
Thanks for the feedback guys. Aaaaand that's why I've never been interested in the series. Not respecting anything you did in TW2 must be a huge slap in the face, there I was raging that King Alistair didn't have a big enough part in DA:I but at least BioWare try to acknowledge some things. Also the 'everyone is an asshole and it's all super grim' thing just plain gets me down. I know, right. Inquisition is demonized because King Alistair makes one (conditional) appearance. Yet when Witcher barely bothers to recognize choices from the previous game as ANYHOW relevant, it's still the holy fucking grail? That's some massive double standarts, folks. Yuuuuuup.
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Post by phoray on Jan 20, 2017 17:06:47 GMT
SerzaArcadiaGreyIs TW3 that grim? I mean, twice or thrice now I've made what I think is the best choice. With the Dwarf and with the grumpy men that turned out to be raping bandits. And then I get smacked with a bad outcome. But if I'd chosen to let the arsonist bribe me and had done battle with the bandits, would the outcomes have STILL been bad? Like, is it "damned if you do, and damned if you don't " the whole game?
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