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Post by zarrokhai on Jan 22, 2017 5:21:26 GMT
I was wondering about her and came up with the possibility that she might be one of the villains in the game. We know she's the founder of the Andromeda Initiative and the head of the Nexus Station so that puts her in a very high position of power(perhaps even the highest position). However, we also know that the Nexus has some sort of uprising that caused Sloane Kelly and several others to be exiled from the station. What if she starts out as an ally but later on begins to become more and more of an enemy. I mean, we know she has very high hopes about the Andromeda Initiative but we also not every thing is at it seems in Andromeda. Maybe the harsh dose of reality she experiences in Andromeda changes her and makes her more paranoid especially against Andromedan races? Then it gets worse when she finds out that her original human pathfinder is incapacitated/missing/dead and that the human ark was attacked. And thanks to her paranoia she only further escalates the conflict with the Kett.
Well this is just my theory anyway. Thoughts?
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Post by JayKay on Jan 22, 2017 7:04:03 GMT
Yeah, I think odds are good that if she isn't the main antagonist, she'll at least be AN antagonist within the overall plot.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 22, 2017 18:24:33 GMT
I'd prefer she not be an antagonist.
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Post by dalinne on Jan 22, 2017 19:22:54 GMT
I see her more like a Udina or the Council subtitute
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 22, 2017 19:47:50 GMT
I can see her going down a wrong path. I have the feeling she sees herself as the one in power and anyone could be a threat to that. Even if she isn't an antagonist, she's an interesting character. Of course, for all we know, she dies early on.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Jan 22, 2017 19:51:36 GMT
I'd prefer she not be an antagonist. I'm curious: why? I don't have strong feelings one way or the other right now about whether she should, but my gut says she won't be an outright antagonist. Obstructive Bureaucrat, maybe.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 22, 2017 20:09:15 GMT
I'd prefer she not be an antagonist. I'm curious: why? I don't have strong feelings one way or the other right now about whether she should, but my gut says she won't be an outright antagonist. Obstructive Bureaucrat, maybe. I'd just rather prefer none of the leaders be villains or antagonists this time, especially since the last Mass Effect game already did that. I'd prefer if Jien, Sloane, and the other leaders just be people who have different perspectives, with pros and cons for each of their viewpoints, rather than them either being can-do-no-wrong characters or villains.
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 22, 2017 20:58:54 GMT
She is the person that I will hang up on. More than that just seems like a waste. And the idea that we in that case must take her down from power don't interest me. That would give too much power to Ryder. (Or make Ryder a puppet by whoever we support instead.)
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Post by hotdogbsg on Jan 22, 2017 23:04:23 GMT
I'm hoping she'd the older female romance option.
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 22, 2017 23:19:46 GMT
I hope not, at least for diversity sake. We don't need a carbon copy of the Illusive Man, ready to spoon feed us his bulls, quoting Saint Augustin or paraphrasing Alan Moore (that was particularly jarring). Is it too much to ask for competent leaders this time around, deeply invested in the well-being of the entire mission, and not focused on “elevating” few who correspond to his/her drama queen ideals?
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Post by starlord on Jan 22, 2017 23:44:15 GMT
Although I do see her being a villain. I'd much rather her be more like Aria T'Loak. Neither good nor bad. It would be cool to have someone morally grey that will both praise or vilify your decisions as a Pathfinder. I mean she worked with the protagonist's father, I would and can see a rather grudging type of alliance built. She is the protagonist's mentor, but feels as though they are too young to make the key decisions and maybe even feels slightly threatened by them. Whereas the Pathfinder feels as though Jien is too rash and too stuck in one path to consider other paths and ideas and quick to bring up Dad!Ryder to get a rise out of our protagonist.
I am expecting to butt heads a lot with her, but I think it would be rewarding to have Jien in that sort of position.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 22, 2017 23:56:33 GMT
If so, what brand of cigarettes will she be smoking? What will her drink be? Will she be wearing a black dress?
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Post by Mihura on Jan 23, 2017 0:19:25 GMT
Hope not, I want to romance her.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 23, 2017 0:46:45 GMT
If so, what brand of cigarettes will she be smoking? What will her drink be? Will she be wearing a black dress? well I don't mind if Jien Garson and T.I.M. were very good friends. Similar yet different with those two.
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Post by tylerbamafan34 on Jan 23, 2017 0:55:02 GMT
I too, am also hoping to romance Jien. It gives a kind of "Dating your Dad's boss." feel to the whole thing.
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Post by deebo305 on Jan 23, 2017 3:35:12 GMT
I see her more like a Udina or the Council subtitute Hope they don't throw her under the bus like they did Udina in ME3, I still feel him suddenly being with Cerberus completely dumb. Hell he actually came off as less of a dick and likeable at the start of ME3 Hoping Jien is a big MW First person but not shoehorned as a villain
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Post by KamenRyder on Jan 23, 2017 23:23:26 GMT
I get an obstructive bureaucrat vibe from her. I'd prefer her to be annoying like Udina but not go villain.
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Post by swagmaster97 on Jan 24, 2017 5:05:22 GMT
"There are people like the council who you will want to hang up on" - Mac Walters (Game Informer 100 questions)
I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Jien winds up being another well intentioned but obstructive beaurocrat whom is waaayyy out of her depth. Or she could end up being a sort of mentor/mother figure like Anderson was to Shepard. Or... She is your mother!
P.S - Looovvveee her voice!
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Post by Serza on Jan 24, 2017 8:50:25 GMT
If so, what brand of cigarettes will she be smoking? What will her drink be? Will she be wearing a black dress? Probably not fine Islay Scotch, that scunner...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
IF she doesn't get killed right off the hop she seems suited for a "Hackett" or corporate council role. Her character could be in some ways comparable to Sigourney Weaver's character in Avatar but siding with the corportists for a twist. Just some thoughts among others but with the new info coming it seems better to wait before venturing too far.
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 24, 2017 23:36:05 GMT
I have no problem with Jien Garson being an optional antagonist, based on how we roleplay.
On an unrelated note, I wonder if Jien is a dry run for Jaime Clayton potentially voicing Maevaris Tilani in DA4? Patrick Weekes did allude to wanting an actual transgender actor for the role...
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Post by Fazed Muttley on Jan 25, 2017 8:18:14 GMT
I'm thinking she will be one of the people Ryder answers too. I think I recall BW mentioning something about a group similar to the council who oversee what we do in a way (don't quote me on it) but even if they didn't and I'm dreaming it, I imagine she would be in that position.
She strikes me as a "Ryder I need this done, now" kind of person. I get the sense that she will take a Hackett role and that Rydad will be like Anderson (if he's alive and they didn't go the, oh daddies dead your in charge route)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 23:53:43 GMT
the lack of new info is...curious. Not complaining, just curious.
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 28, 2017 0:28:48 GMT
I was wondering about her and came up with the possibility that she might be one of the villains in the game. We know she's the founder of the Andromeda Initiative and the head of the Nexus Station so that puts her in a very high position of power(perhaps even the highest position). However, we also know that the Nexus has some sort of uprising that caused Sloane Kelly and several others to be exiled from the station. What if she starts out as an ally but later on begins to become more and more of an enemy. I mean, we know she has very high hopes about the Andromeda Initiative but we also not every thing is at it seems in Andromeda. Maybe the harsh dose of reality she experiences in Andromeda changes her and makes her more paranoid especially against Andromedan races? Then it gets worse when she finds out that her original human pathfinder is incapacitated/missing/dead and that the human ark was attacked. And thanks to her paranoia she only further escalates the conflict with the Kett. Well this is just my theory anyway. Thoughts? TIM was a great characters until the bull shit backlash from the ME 1 destroyed 2 going into 3 and we got the piece of crap called ME 3 after Bioware decide to bend over for the ME 1 fan cry babies so what if she is i like that
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