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Post by capn233 on Jan 23, 2017 23:16:09 GMT
I may have asked a similar question in the past on the defunct bioware forum, at least with respect to solo but I don't remember.
Ever since they "balanced" Siege Breaker, and to some extent before that, I have wondered if there is a much point to this spec and if there is a good, fun build you can make with it, especially for a 2H warrior.
It was supposed to be sort of a tanking spec I suppose, but in reality to me tanking comes mostly from aggro powers and various other passives throughout warrior trees such that the Champion passives or powers aren't really needed.
To The Death is sort of an interesting power, and in theory would be nice against the high HP enemies, but we are talking about a small fraction of the enemies you fight.
I don't have Trespasser, but glancing at what toggles are available it doesn't read as if it would be much improved relative to the others.
Maybe you build gurus have thought of some fun way to utilize this spec, but I can't really think of anything that would be as good as Templar or Reaver.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 24, 2017 1:23:09 GMT
I found it boring. Unless you go out of your way to do something unusual, the straightforward optimized build makes you close to invulnerable. I think somewhere around level 13 I stopped losing health to damage, on Nightmare + Even Ground.
To The Death is a cool ability and I did enjoy using it on bosses and such, but in the long run I ended up enjoying the 2H abilities way more than the Champion ones.
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Post by capn233 on Jan 24, 2017 5:16:27 GMT
It's a shame that Taunt stole the name from War Cry and Champion doesn't get old school War Cry that was AOE debuff and then knockdown, that might have been cool.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 24, 2017 20:47:57 GMT
It's a shame that Taunt stole the name from War Cry and Champion doesn't get old school War Cry that was AOE debuff and then knockdown, that might have been cool. Line In The Sand adds insult to injury. It's a totally worthless active ability. An AoE knockdown or stun ability would have been soooooo much better. |
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Post by Sonya on Jan 30, 2020 16:44:08 GMT
Know it is an old thread, but still just eager to say.
Champion spec is a Destroyer with a proper build. He/she just annihilates everything on her/his way. And at the same time more tankier as has more guurd and armor. With Trespasser DLC there is a Sigil for 100 armor with zero barrir. For SOLO PT it is great.
I prefer rogue builds for my warriors. Champion is half rogue-half warrior. Or full warrior. Or full rougue. There are different builds and all are damagers if you prefer (I hate playing as support or a tank). Aways play on Nightmare with FF.
SnS or 2h - does not matter.
Just take everything for gurad, use "to the death" + other warrior abilities (I adore chain with a punch to the face, bull, MB, PS, BnS, SnS abilities are all great), crit chance ab 50-60 %, the rest is for ctit itself. Rougue armor will be better in this.
So yeah, champiom/templar/reaver - they all worth taking with a certain build and armor. And they all can be real damagers.
My favorite is of course 2h reaver in the rougue armor - crits are amazing.
But Champion is the same - the difference only that this spec has more suvivability as it is and at the same time kills everyone on the way.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 17, 2020 18:31:47 GMT
My problem with Champion is that the game's strongest enemies use mainly magic attacks, so having good defense against enemy warriors doesn't mean much in the long run.
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 8:43:06 GMT
My problem with Champion is that the game's strongest enemies use mainly magic attacks, so having good defense against enemy warriors doesn't mean much in the long run. Have never had a probleme, using even rogue armor. if there is such - crafting only magic-proof armor can help. |
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Post by Iddy on May 22, 2020 13:47:12 GMT
My problem with Champion is that the game's strongest enemies use mainly magic attacks, so having good defense against enemy warriors doesn't mean much in the long run. Have never had a probleme, using even rogue armor. if there is such - crafting only magic-proof armor can help. It's not about "having a problem". The point is that the Champion specialization doesn't have much use in the game. Enemies that use melee attacks usually are fodder. |
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 16:01:22 GMT
Wrote yourself "my problem with...".
Turns out it is a problem for you.
Your point was about "magic attacks". Clear as day.
People shared their experience how to deal with this or that and how they solo the whole game as 2h warriors with this spec.
This spec does have its use and not just for taking punches. It is a damager with more protection.
If other players can make solo PT with this spec, it does have much use in the game.
Proven my PTs.
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