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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 22:45:01 GMT
Not all Angara are sunshine and rainbows. Especially when you go to places that are dog-eat-dog. Jaal is just the worst when it comes to being emotional, but push him too far and you don't want him as an enemy. True true, hell, seeing Jaal flip out in the Kett base and practically bum-rushing all Kett in the area made me stop in shock for a bit... it was such a personality shift it took me completely by surprise! I was totally expecting him to 'nope' out of the fight and leave me and Drack to mop up while he recovered! I kind of get a feeling that, whatever is Angaran emotional range, debilitating depression is not usually in it. Furious or heartbroken - they do things about it. "Crush my heart into embers And I will reignite", as a completely unrelated Mass Effect song goes.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 22:48:57 GMT
Am I imagining things or since the new patch is the banter... backwards?
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 22:49:21 GMT
Yeah it's a tough thing to do, but when they got violent and started harming things, it was best to have them leave before another Exiles event occurred. If they had behaved, I might have tried to help. Yeah, if they didn't resort to property damage I might have looked for some kinda compromise, (maybe thaw out a few people for a bit to placate the grumps then refreeze after a bit of socialization?) still it was an easy dilemma for me to answer... no way in hell am I releasing more mouths to feed just because someone misses his mother! It's asking for trouble! Even more importantly, not going to release someone's professional tea cozy maker (or other completely untrained in survival/self-defense/irreplaceable tech and science skills Initiative needs) mother from cryo and then explain to that someone why local wildlife/radiation/Remnant/Kett got her. Seriously.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 22:55:29 GMT
True true, hell, seeing Jaal flip out in the Kett base and practically bum-rushing all Kett in the area made me stop in shock for a bit... it was such a personality shift it took me completely by surprise! I was totally expecting him to 'nope' out of the fight and leave me and Drack to mop up while he recovered! Jaal scared me on the flagship when he sees the Salarian being experimented on. He total flips! Beyond what he learns at the facility! Just before that, he was near tears at the tons of Salarian bodies piled up with organs missing. Seeing it about to happen again caused him to snap! I gotta admit, Jaals emotional shifts are refreshing, too many characters do the "I'm fine" walk. Hell, I expected Cora to flip out waaay more than she did... if I was trained for a role and my mentor decided nah, inexperienced daughter is best, I'd do more than biotic kick a box!
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 22:55:43 GMT
Bear in mind that the protestors have possibly been awake from cryo a full year already, with no sign of their loved ones being thawed out. They were promised certain things when they signed up for the Initiative, and none of those promises have come true thus far. They're scared and they're alone- I think wanting to see your loved ones in that kind of situation is a pretty natural feeling, regardless of whether or not they're in the right or not. I really do not understand why nobody in the Initiative was prepared for the fact that things can go wrong. Immature whiny children. We did not know where we were going - that's kind of the point. Yes, we had a good educated guess, but that's it. For all we know, the Arks could have failed mid-flight. Or so could the ships that brought Nexus crew, and then there would have been no Nexus to speak of. The "Golden Worlds" might have been in place but be inhabited by someone who is not particularly happy to see the Initiative - come to think about it, if Scourge never happened and the Initiative arrived to see functioning Vaults - with Jardaan - exactly how would they react?
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 22:56:48 GMT
Yeah, if they didn't resort to property damage I might have looked for some kinda compromise, (maybe thaw out a few people for a bit to placate the grumps then refreeze after a bit of socialization?) still it was an easy dilemma for me to answer... no way in hell am I releasing more mouths to feed just because someone misses his mother! It's asking for trouble! Even more importantly, not going to release someone's professional tea cozy maker (or other completely untrained in survival/self-defense/irreplaceable tech and science skills Initiative needs) mother from cryo and then explain to that someone why local wildlife/radiation/Remnant/Kett got her. Seriously. Damned if you do, damned if you don't... at least you can reason with the protesters when you decide not to release their kin.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 22:58:29 GMT
Jaal scared me on the flagship when he sees the Salarian being experimented on. He total flips! Beyond what he learns at the facility! Just before that, he was near tears at the tons of Salarian bodies piled up with organs missing. Seeing it about to happen again caused him to snap! I gotta admit, Jaals emotional shifts are refreshing, too many characters do the "I'm fine" walk. Hell, I expected Cora to flip out waaay more than she did... if I was trained for a role and my mentor decided nah, inexperienced daughter is best, I'd do more than biotic kick a box! Yeah like when he asks if we came to see if he's broken, then he says he's excited and it's not all angst and sadness. He wants to know more, not run away from realizing he was created. Also he is so damn emotional when he praises me in battle or with the puzzles, and if I cancel a puzzle he says it's a hard one and they are testing us, so he's really into the puzzle solving!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 23:02:28 GMT
I gotta admit, Jaals emotional shifts are refreshing, too many characters do the "I'm fine" walk. Hell, I expected Cora to flip out waaay more than she did... if I was trained for a role and my mentor decided nah, inexperienced daughter is best, I'd do more than biotic kick a box! Yeah like when he asks if we came to see if he's broken, then he says he's excited and it's not all angst and sadness. He wants to know more, not run away from realizing he was created. Also he is so damn emotional when he praises me in battle or with the puzzles, and if I cancel a puzzle he says it's a hard one and they are testing us, so he's really into the puzzle solving! Ohboyohboyohboy when Jaal shouts "good targeting!" I go weak at the knees!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 15, 2017 23:02:29 GMT
Thank you! I've been so busy I can't wait until I get home to read it. You write fast.
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 23:03:19 GMT
I gotta admit, Jaals emotional shifts are refreshing, too many characters do the "I'm fine" walk. Hell, I expected Cora to flip out waaay more than she did... if I was trained for a role and my mentor decided nah, inexperienced daughter is best, I'd do more than biotic kick a box! Yeah like when he asks if we came to see if he's broken, then he says he's excited and it's not all angst and sadness. He wants to know more, not run away from realizing he was created. Also he is so damn emotional when he praises me in battle or with the puzzles, and if I cancel a puzzle he says it's a hard one and they are testing us, so he's really into the puzzle solving! Yeah, again, depression does not seem to be his thing. He is one resilient guy. Falls hard but recovers quickly
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:04:18 GMT
Yeah like when he asks if we came to see if he's broken, then he says he's excited and it's not all angst and sadness. He wants to know more, not run away from realizing he was created. Also he is so damn emotional when he praises me in battle or with the puzzles, and if I cancel a puzzle he says it's a hard one and they are testing us, so he's really into the puzzle solving! Ohboyohboyohboy when Jaal shouts "good targeting!" I go weak at the knees! Haha I know! He is so emotional when we battle and gets really into it! He needs to stop using Avenger Strike right as I take out an enemy though. If I snapped a pic, it would look like he had a knife to ME!
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 23:04:21 GMT
Yeah like when he asks if we came to see if he's broken, then he says he's excited and it's not all angst and sadness. He wants to know more, not run away from realizing he was created. Also he is so damn emotional when he praises me in battle or with the puzzles, and if I cancel a puzzle he says it's a hard one and they are testing us, so he's really into the puzzle solving! Ohboyohboyohboy when Jaal shouts "good targeting!" I go weak at the knees! That's one of the big reasons I love using sniper rifle. He is so happy about my headshots!
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Post by kestrel on May 15, 2017 23:06:14 GMT
Ahhh, I finished the next Kandros chapter and I gave myself FEELINGS.
I think I need to go rewatch Jaal's romance scenes to drag myself out of this hell ship.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 23:09:45 GMT
Haha I know! He is so emotional when we battle and gets really into it! He needs to stop using Avenger Strike right as I take out an enemy though. If I snapped a pic, it would look like he had a knife to ME! My main fault I'd give him in my game, is his distaste for cover... Jaal baby, I love you, but I need you alive to get through these fights! That's one of the big reasons I love using sniper rifle. He is so happy about my headshots! SAME! I've stuck to cover with most of my fights, prefering to casually pick off people with my Black Widow, purely to hear his praise! Or, by doing combo kills, so I can hear "I must learn how to do that!"
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:12:05 GMT
PenDev0us haha you're lucky! My Jaal always takes cover right beside me and we fight for the space, and a few times he used me as cover!
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 23:13:03 GMT
Not all Angara are sunshine and rainbows. Especially when you go to places that are dog-eat-dog. Jaal is just the worst when it comes to being emotional, but push him too far and you don't want him as an enemy. True true, hell, seeing Jaal flip out in the Kett base and practically bum-rushing all Kett in the area made me stop in shock for a bit... it was such a personality shift it took me completely by surprise! I was totally expecting him to 'nope' out of the fight and leave me and Drack to mop up while he recovered! Also, I liked how at the beginning of that fight Drack said that he's got Jaal's back. Apparently even a raging Krogan thought that Jaal was acting... a little bit recklessly
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 23:14:55 GMT
Am I imagining things or since the new patch is the banter... backwards? Haven't noticed anything my end... backwards how?
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 23:16:14 GMT
True true, hell, seeing Jaal flip out in the Kett base and practically bum-rushing all Kett in the area made me stop in shock for a bit... it was such a personality shift it took me completely by surprise! I was totally expecting him to 'nope' out of the fight and leave me and Drack to mop up while he recovered! Also, I liked how at the beginning of that fight Drack said that he's got Jaal's back. Apparently even a raging Krogan thought that Jaal was acting... a little bit recklessly Damn if Grandpappy Krogan tells you you're acting rash in battle, YOU'RE ACTING RASH IN BATTLE
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:17:23 GMT
Am I imagining things or since the new patch is the banter... backwards? Haven't noticed anything my end... backwards how? Jaal used to tell me to follow the lights after my other squadmate talked about the ride down the snowy mountain. When talking about settling on Voeld, Jaal talks first, then Ryder makes a sigh sound, then the other squadmate adds their piece. Before the patch Jaal would talk after the squadmate and Ryder.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 15, 2017 23:23:35 GMT
Haven't noticed anything my end... backwards how? Jaal used to tell me to follow the lights after my other squadmate talked about the ride down the snowy mountain. When talking about settling on Voeld, Jaal talks first, then Ryder makes a sigh sound, then the other squadmate adds their piece. Before the patch Jaal would talk after the squadmate and Ryder. Weird! well I haven't reached Voeld yet, (been getting as much of Havarl out of the way first *shudders*) but when I do, I'll check back with you on the backwards biz.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:26:56 GMT
Jaal used to tell me to follow the lights after my other squadmate talked about the ride down the snowy mountain. When talking about settling on Voeld, Jaal talks first, then Ryder makes a sigh sound, then the other squadmate adds their piece. Before the patch Jaal would talk after the squadmate and Ryder. Weird! well I haven't reached Voeld yet, (been getting as much of Havarl out of the way first *shudders*) but when I do, I'll check back with you on the backwards biz. It seems it's only non-quest related banter. Cora and PeeBee during Cora's LM had normal banter.
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 23:34:05 GMT
Also, I liked how at the beginning of that fight Drack said that he's got Jaal's back. Apparently even a raging Krogan thought that Jaal was acting... a little bit recklessly Damn if Grandpappy Krogan tells you you're acting rash in battle, YOU'RE ACTING RASH IN BATTLE No kidding
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 15, 2017 23:36:35 GMT
I have a really bad habit of creating new Ryders. I want to start another one but I'm trying to hold off until they drop the CC fixes. I had to write down in a notebook who was who because I was getting confused. Yes, I have a notebook (notebooks) for gaming notes. I'm a proud nerd. I did the same thing with the MET and DAI, but it's worse with Andromeda because I have so many Saras. I just like it when her first name is used, even if I still don't care for the actual name. Out of 9 current characters 5 of them are romancing Jaal. :amirite:
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:39:46 GMT
I have a really bad habit of creating new Ryders. I want to start another one but I'm trying to hold off until they drop the CC fixes. I had to write down in a notebook who was who because I was getting confused. Yes, I have a notebook (notebooks) for gaming notes. I'm a proud nerd. I did the same thing with the MET and DAI, but it's worse with Andromeda because I have so many Saras. I just like it when her first name is used, even if I still don't care for the actual name. Out of 9 current characters 5 of them are romancing Jaal. :amirite: Jaal always! Also: Nox @noxfauna
@gamblemike will the next patch be within the 2 week deadline you set or will u need more time? Asking for myself and friends at #MakeJaalbi Michael Gamble @gamblemike
When it's ready I'm wondering if the CC will come out with the m/m and the BE mirror, and the actual romantic outfit we were promised?
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Post by fadburger on May 15, 2017 23:40:09 GMT
Last night when I was doing Jaal's LM I was getting stabby with the Firaan and Jaal Avenger Striked the same Roekaar as I went in for the kill so we both got him at the same time and killed him together. So romantic . Also this was the first time catching Jaal in the act lol
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