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Post by kissed by fire on Feb 13, 2017 5:25:09 GMT
*bursts through the doors* GUYS. Was rewatching BioFan's videos... came across this. Isn't Cathleen Rootsaert Jaal's writer? ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:26:03 GMT
I personally adore the idea that we can completely screw up any relationship with Jaal depending on how we handle the big Angara-related drama that we all know will happen eventually. Because that's a real consequence that makes sense and makes the whole thing feel more immersive! I get the feeling out of all the romances, Jaal's will be the one we can make the wrong choice about and ruin the most. Since, you know, the inevitable tension of native Andromedans vs newcomer Milky Way folks and the supposed choices with consequences that we'll have.
As for Jaal being a spy, I keep fluctuating between whether he'd keep that a secret or whether he'd just be outright with it a la Iron Bull. Because come on, anyone with common sense would know that someone of a new race joining their team would probably keeping an eye on them to some degree. So if he's there to "spy", he might not bother keeping it a secret and just straight up tell us that he's reporting our conduct back to his people. After all, our Pathfinder team doesn't seem like it's supposed to be there to be all sneaky and classified. We're meant to be there to explore and find a peaceful home, so him tagging along to confirm our intentions shouldn't be a huge issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:26:53 GMT
Maybe the sadness will come from his people not accepting his relationship with the pathfinder? We toyed with the possibility of tension accumulating about his relations with an alien and may demand he end it. I'm going to post a weird theory that's been in my head since the first trailer. We saw those Angara entering that dark place right? They sort of did it in a perfect order like soldiers but almost as if programmed, so what if they are being controlled by the Kett or planning to attack them and they all get wiped out? Or we have to wipe them out because they attack us? Either way they seem strongly connected to the Kett story.
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Post by kissed by fire on Feb 13, 2017 5:28:39 GMT
I personally adore the idea that we can completely screw up any relationship with Jaal depending on how we handle the big Angara-related drama that we all know will happen eventually. Because that's a real consequence that makes sense and makes the whole thing feel more immersive! I get the feeling out of all the romances, Jaal's will be the one we can make the wrong choice about and ruin the most. Since, you know, the inevitable tension of native Andromedans vs newcomer Milky Way folks and the supposed choices that have consequences that we'll have. I am also okay with this. I mean, I would prefer a happy, sweet, fluffy ending with Jaal, something akin to Cullen (or at the very least, as fluffy as Shakarian), buuuuttt.... I do adore my Solavellan. So... well. Jaal will definitely be my first as long as I can get 'em with Sara. Otherwise... on to Vetra and/or Liam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:29:34 GMT
*bursts through the doors* GUYS. Was rewatching BioFan's videos... came across this. Isn't Cathleen Rootsaert Jaal's writer? ???????!!!!!!!!!!!! Yep! That's our boy's writer!
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:31:45 GMT
The more I look at him the more I see... a purple space rabbit... What with the 'ears' and the big eyes and the powerful legs that look like they could jump high. If that is in fact an inspiration... I wonder what it means for their libido... Just me?
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:32:46 GMT
I personally adore the idea that we can completely screw up any relationship with Jaal depending on how we handle the big Angara-related drama that we all know will happen eventually. Because that's a real consequence that makes sense and makes the whole thing feel more immersive! I get the feeling out of all the romances, Jaal's will be the one we can make the wrong choice about and ruin the most. Since, you know, the inevitable tension of native Andromedans vs newcomer Milky Way folks and the supposed choices that have consequences that we'll have. I am also okay with this. I mean, I would prefer a happy, sweet, fluffy ending with Jaal, something akin to Cullen (or at the very least, as fluffy as Shakarian), buuuuttt.... I do adore my Solavellan. So... well. Jaal will definitely be my first as long as I can get 'em with Sara. Otherwise... on to Vetra and/or Liam. Oh I'd be happy to have a sweet ending with Jaal, but I feel like it makes sense that we can also possibly make a wrong choice about the Angara and blow the whole thing to pieces. So it'd be more like don't screw over his people and everything will be fine!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:32:56 GMT
I personally adore the idea that we can completely screw up any relationship with Jaal depending on how we handle the big Angara-related drama that we all know will happen eventually. Because that's a real consequence that makes sense and makes the whole thing feel more immersive! I get the feeling out of all the romances, Jaal's will be the one we can make the wrong choice about and ruin the most. Since, you know, the inevitable tension of native Andromedans vs newcomer Milky Way folks and the supposed choices that have consequences that we'll have. I am also okay with this. I mean, I would prefer a happy, sweet, fluffy ending with Jaal, something akin to Cullen (or at the very least, as fluffy as Shakarian), buuuuttt.... I do adore my Solavellan. So... well. Jaal will definitely be my first as long as I can get 'em with Sara. Otherwise... on to Vetra and/or Liam. Ya know... Cullen was a pretty heavy one too now that I think about it. He is suffering from PTSD and has an addiction he is trying to crack. If we make him continue his addiction, we lose everything. If we don't, he gets violent, wants to leave and has a breakdown. He nearly loses his love in the Fade and then cries and prays for her to return before the final fight. I shed more tears there than with Solas tbh. This guy was the Prince Charming of DA and we got more than just his looks!
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Post by kissed by fire on Feb 13, 2017 5:38:59 GMT
Ya know... Cullen was a pretty heavy one too now that I think about it. He is suffering from PTSD and has an addiction he is trying to crack. If we make him continue his addiction, we lose everything. If we don't, he gets violent, wants to leave and has a breakdown. He nearly loses his love in the Fade and then cries and prays for her to return before the final fight. I shed more tears there than with Solas tbh. This guy was the Prince Charming of DA and we got more than just his looks! True. I did love his romance. Tackled heavy themes but it was pretty romantic, I feel. I would love for Jaal to be more in this vein rather than another Solas. Oh I'd be happy to have a sweet ending with Jaal, but I feel like it makes sense that we can also possibly make a wrong choice about the Angara and blow the whole thing to pieces. So it'd be more like don't screw over his people and everything will be fine! Agreed. Definitely a sort of "point-of-no-return" with him. And bonus if this screwing over of the Angara is a big plot branch in the story and each decision changes the game irrevocably.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:48:07 GMT
Ya know... Cullen was a pretty heavy one too now that I think about it. He is suffering from PTSD and has an addiction he is trying to crack. If we make him continue his addiction, we lose everything. If we don't, he gets violent, wants to leave and has a breakdown. He nearly loses his love in the Fade and then cries and prays for her to return before the final fight. I shed more tears there than with Solas tbh. This guy was the Prince Charming of DA and we got more than just his looks! True. I did love his romance. Tackled heavy themes but it was pretty romantic, I feel. I would love for Jaal to be more in this vein rather than another Solas. Oh I'd be happy to have a sweet ending with Jaal, but I feel like it makes sense that we can also possibly make a wrong choice about the Angara and blow the whole thing to pieces. So it'd be more like don't screw over his people and everything will be fine! Agreed. Definitely a sort of "point-of-no-return" with him. And bonus if this screwing over of the Angara is a big plot branch in the story and each decision changes the game irrevocably. Yeah we know he is not like Solas. The leak said that. Now that I think about it, I am getting a Cullen vibe from him. Both look like Princes, are veterans, have scars from their past and (apparently) a romance that is happy and sad. So maybe the lyrium choice will be a choice regarding the Angara or a choice like the Chargers and the Qunari. Giving Cullen lyrium ends the relationship and kills him later on, and killing the Chargers makes Bull turn on you and you have to kill him. Maybe you have to choose to save his people or side with your family. If you choose your family, he loses everything, stays with you but is broken. If you choose his people, you loose your family's trust and have to deal with it later.
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Post by BioFan on Feb 13, 2017 5:50:23 GMT
*bursts through the doors* GUYS. Was rewatching BioFan 's videos... came across this. Isn't Cathleen Rootsaert Jaal's writer? ???????!!!!!!!!!!!! Yep! That was confirmed just recently. It'll be in my next news update She wrote ME3 Kaidan. Though unfortunately shes not on twitter.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:51:03 GMT
Good lord if Jaal was akin to some kind of combo of Garrus and Cullen...I can almost hear the excited shrieking in the distance. Two of the most loudly adored characters and romances in BioWare history!
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Feb 13, 2017 5:55:33 GMT
The more I look at him the more I see... a purple space rabbit... What with the 'ears' and the big eyes and the powerful legs that look like they could jump high. If that is in fact an inspiration... I wonder what it means for their libido... Just me? No, it was mentioned some... 20 -30 pages back. Have you seen adult Garrus fanart? (fanvert-art) I mean damn... Hell, someone made an adult comic of Garrushep's sex scene.
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Post by kissed by fire on Feb 13, 2017 5:55:47 GMT
Good lord if Jaal was akin to some kind of combo of Garrus and Cullen...I can almost hear the excited shrieking in the distance. Two of the most loudly adored characters and romances in BioWare history! *coughs and looks innocent*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:00:10 GMT
Just thought of something. You don't think it might be because he's bi? They wouldn't do that... would they? Make the gay one more drama-like?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:02:54 GMT
Has anyone tweeted Nyasha Hatendi (Jaal's VA) yet? When I check his twitter surprisingly I saw no tweets related to Jaal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:03:29 GMT
Has anyone tweeted Nyasha Hatendi (Jaal's VA) yet? When I check his twitter surprisingly I saw no tweets related to Jaal. He's not confirmed by Caroline. He can't say anything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:05:03 GMT
Has anyone tweeted Nyasha Hatendi (Jaal's VA) yet? When I check his twitter surprisingly I saw no tweets related to Jaal. He's not confirmed by Caroline. He can't say anything. IMDB is still showing him. Someone needs to correct that if it's not true.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:05:39 GMT
He's not confirmed by Caroline. He can't say anything. IMDB is still showing him. Someone needs to correct that if it's not true. It's most likely true. She does follow him, but nothing can be said until his profile is released.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 13, 2017 6:06:13 GMT
Just thought of something. You don't think it might be because he's bi? They wouldn't do that... would they? Make the gay one more drama-like? Who knows! I would imagine though that they write his story first then decide later who can romance him. Though how they decide that is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:06:46 GMT
IMDB is still showing him. Someone needs to correct that if it's not true. It's most likely true. She does follow him, but nothing can be said until his profile is released. Yeah, but I just think it's weird he's on the official page. Like at least wait until he's officially confirmed to list him as the confirmed VA lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:07:18 GMT
Just thought of something. You don't think it might be because he's bi? They wouldn't do that... would they? Make the gay one more drama-like? Who knows! I would imagine though that they write his story first then decide later who can romance him. Though how they decide that is beyond me. I just know a lot of people would not be happy, so I hope that's not the case. I think Cortrez really turned people off with his mourning his husband all the time. Kaidan though, that was something! @massbass Kallo's actor is on that site too, and she also follows him. I have no idea how IMDb got the info first.
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Post by kissed by fire on Feb 13, 2017 6:09:45 GMT
Just thought of something. You don't think it might be because he's bi? They wouldn't do that... would they? Make the gay one more drama-like? Being bi myself, I would really hate that. I want Jaal to be bi, but I don't want his sexuality to be a source of drama. They did it with Dorian and I think it worked for his specific situation, but it was a really polarizing storyline -- some hated it and some loved it -- and I think it would be risky to do it again. Besides, one of the positives of LGBT+ representation in Mass Effect (and to some extent, Dragon Age) is how normalized and accepted it is to everyone. And I think that matters. I'd rather his story to be about being with a human rather than being bi. Choosing between his love and his people. Just my thoughts. Also, not very coherent, it's beddy bye time in a minute.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:10:54 GMT
Who knows! I would imagine though that they write his story first then decide later who can romance him. Though how they decide that is beyond me. I just know a lot of people would not be happy, so I hope that's not the case. I think Cortrez really turned people off with his mourning his husband all the time. Kaidan though, that was something! @massbass Kallo's actor is on that site too, and she also follows him. I have no idea how IMDb got the info first. Alright, thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 6:11:25 GMT
Just thought of something. You don't think it might be because he's bi? They wouldn't do that... would they? Make the gay one more drama-like? Being bi myself, I would really hate that. I want Jaal to be bi, but I don't want his sexuality to be a source of drama. They did it with Dorian and I think it worked for his specific situation, but it was a really polarizing storyline -- some hated it and some loved it -- and I think it would be risky to do it again. Besides, one of the positives of LGBT+ representation in Mass Effect (and to some extent, Dragon Age) is how normalized and accepted it is to everyone. And I think that matters. I'd rather his story to be about being with a human rather than being bi. Choosing between his love and his people. Just my thoughts. Also, not very coherent, it's beddy bye time in a minute. Yeah that's my fear. They wouldn't play that card again would they? Sara has a happy romance all Cullen/Bull-like and Scott gets Cortez/Dorian and all the drama that follows. Me too! Heading off pretty soon.
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