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Post by Artemis on Feb 18, 2017 17:48:40 GMT
It's kind of funny, I really do intend to play a cutely enthusiastic but slightly naive male Ryder Then when I do female Ryder she's gonna be smart and bad ass and in-it-to-get-it lol
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 18, 2017 17:51:52 GMT
Phoenix2M OT but I just wanted to say you're lucky, having nice Andromeda-themed dreams like that... all I dreamed about tonight was this video... and ladyconsular, I have nothing constructive to add I just like reading what you wrote there... over and over Did I mention I used to be an amazing fanfic writer who never missed a detail? Did you... perhaps publish those fanfics anywhere? Just... out of curiosity.
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Post by Mintty on Feb 18, 2017 17:57:01 GMT
Ohai everybody! I gave up trying to read through the 30+ pages I missed...
I don't think Jaal is very feminine either. The big eyes are the most feminine thing I see in his features and even then that's more alluring than anything else. *shrugs* I do find femininity in guys just as attractive as masculinity though so I certainly don't mind either way.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 18, 2017 17:57:47 GMT
It's kind of funny, I really do intend to play a cutely enthusiastic but slightly naive male Ryder Then when I do female Ryder she's gonna be smart and bad ass and in-it-to-get-it lol I think they put that idea into our heads without us knowing, because I'm planning on doing exactly the same thing. We already know that the twins are separate people with separate personalities, and from what we've seen in the trailers it really seems you're right about their characters. There's also the VA video with Tom and Fryda on top of that. Oh and the pathfinder team briefing video where we got a bio for them. I'm really curious how much it will impact our interactions with people in the game. Will they deliver the lines in a significantly different tone, as opposed to the natural difference because they're being voiced by different people, obviously. Will we get entirely different lines in some cases? Will the romances/romance scenes or even story cutscenes play out differently? I can't wait to find out ughh
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Post by fialka on Feb 18, 2017 18:04:59 GMT
I definitely see the feminine features people are talking about - the big, pretty, black-lined eyes, the slender jaw and narrow chin, the long 'ears' that resemble long hair. But then the way he carries himself and his figure are very masculine, which complements the more feminine features well. I'm a huge fan of his design, and the more I look at him, and get used to his 'alien-ness,' the more attractive he looks to me. When I first saw him I definitely though 'ooh, he looks interesting' and it was only after I saw a screenshot later that I thought, 'wait, that is a he, right...?' Because I thought maybe that could be what the female of this new species we've seen so little of might look like - bulky and androgynous, which would actually be kind of interesting. But then I noticed the more obviously female Angara behind him, which erased my doubts immediately. Somehow I never assumed the female voice when he arrives was him talking, because if it were, why cut to a scene where he's not actually speaking anymore and have it as voice over instead?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:15:30 GMT
Did I mention I used to be an amazing fanfic writer who never missed a detail? Did you... perhaps publish those fanfics anywhere? Just... out of curiosity. Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him!
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 18, 2017 18:23:43 GMT
Did you... perhaps publish those fanfics anywhere? Just... out of curiosity. Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. (I know that state of mind too, I used to draw but life got unpleasant for a while and I haven't created anything in years). Best wishes for you and I hope MEA will be good enough to inspire you! (And that you'll be willing to share your creations with us ).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:25:00 GMT
Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. (I know that state of mind too, I used to draw but life got unpleasant for a while and I haven't created anything in years). Best wishes for you and I hope MEA will be good enough to inspire you! (And that you'll be willing to share your creations with us ). I will be more than happy to share my art and writing with all of you here when I am able to start up again!
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Post by Solas on Feb 18, 2017 18:27:35 GMT
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 18, 2017 18:29:11 GMT
uhh.. kinda related? not really but I still thought it was funny
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Post by Artemis on Feb 18, 2017 18:29:40 GMT
Did you... perhaps publish those fanfics anywhere? Just... out of curiosity. Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! Wow! Well you're certainly not modest Tbh I used to think I was pretty good... then I switched fandoms. Suddenly I get like two comments on my stories lol To go from 50+ to 2 is pretty harsh and makes you take a long hard look at your so-called talent (talking about myself, not you lol)
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Post by Artemis on Feb 18, 2017 18:30:57 GMT
no feminine.. no masculine.. but lobster Um, excuse you, sexy lobster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:31:12 GMT
Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! Wow! Well you're certainly not modest Tbh I used to think I was pretty good... then I switched fandoms. Suddenly I get like two comments on my stories lol To go from 50+ to 2 is pretty harsh and makes you take a long hard look at your so-called talent (talking about myself, not you lol) Oh lol not the best writer. Artist! I can draw anything. Nothing is a challenge to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:32:42 GMT
Did you... perhaps publish those fanfics anywhere? Just... out of curiosity. Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! You know what, the will to draw and write will come back, if it haven't already. Same happened to me. I stopped doing both after my teens, because life was shit, very literally, and no one ever encouraged me to continue. I was sure I'm so lousy I might aswell drown myself. Now I'm older (again, literally) and first I began to draw, then I began to write. In English. The need was so bad I had to do it. I get like...zero comments, lol, but I don't do any networking and maybe I just suck but I don't mind, it has been a trip! Right now I don't really do either, though I wrote one story not so long ago, but it is more just lack of inspiration and laziness, and the need is not there right now. Drawing is less important and I do it mostly if I want to have something on my wall. Though I've been looking at Jaal with that eye lately...Making videos has always been a way to be creative for me too, even though it is just recording the games. If you have a need to create, it will never go away, in some form it will demand your attention. I said all this because no one ever encouraged me and I'm still bitter about it. People deserve to be encouraged
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Post by Crim on Feb 18, 2017 18:33:27 GMT
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Post by scoundrel on Feb 18, 2017 18:34:22 GMT
uhh.. kinda related? not really but I still thought it was funny
What kind of bug could that be though? Like... are we talking just a bit of a twitch in certain scenes or a full on Bethesda level spasm lmao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:35:40 GMT
Haha long ago my friend. But bad things happened in my life and I lost my will to draw and write, and I was one of the best no lie. MEA is inspiring me again though. fialka same with me when I saw him! You know what, the will to draw and write will come back, if it haven't already. Same happened to me. I stopped doing both after my teens, because life was shit, very literally, and no one ever encouraged me to continue. I was sure I'm so lousy I might aswell drown myself. Now I'm older (again, literally) and first I began to draw, then I began to write. In English. The need was so bad I had to do it. Right now I don't really do either, though I wrote one story not so long ago, but it is more just lack of inspiration and laziness, and the need is not there right now. Making videos has always been a way to be creative for me too, even though it is just recording the games. If you have a need to create, it will never go away, in some form it will demand your attention. I said all this because no one ever encouraged me and I'm still bitter about it. People deserve to be encouraged Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. scoundrel don't remind me of what Bethesda can do or I will laugh at Jaal each time I see him in the game LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:40:13 GMT
You know what, the will to draw and write will come back, if it haven't already. Same happened to me. I stopped doing both after my teens, because life was shit, very literally, and no one ever encouraged me to continue. I was sure I'm so lousy I might aswell drown myself. Now I'm older (again, literally) and first I began to draw, then I began to write. In English. The need was so bad I had to do it. Right now I don't really do either, though I wrote one story not so long ago, but it is more just lack of inspiration and laziness, and the need is not there right now. Making videos has always been a way to be creative for me too, even though it is just recording the games. If you have a need to create, it will never go away, in some form it will demand your attention. I said all this because no one ever encouraged me and I'm still bitter about it. People deserve to be encouraged Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. I'm very sorry for your loss. It is not stupid to let it affect you. It is stupid to demand we are not affected. People say stuff like that because they can't actually handle their own feelings, and seeing other showing feelings openly makes them anxious about it. You will draw and write again, I promise you. You will do it when time is right, and funny thing is, even if you are not using your talents for years and years, they develope. That's happened to me, at least.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 18, 2017 18:41:29 GMT
You know what, the will to draw and write will come back, if it haven't already. Same happened to me. I stopped doing both after my teens, because life was shit, very literally, and no one ever encouraged me to continue. I was sure I'm so lousy I might aswell drown myself. Now I'm older (again, literally) and first I began to draw, then I began to write. In English. The need was so bad I had to do it. Right now I don't really do either, though I wrote one story not so long ago, but it is more just lack of inspiration and laziness, and the need is not there right now. Making videos has always been a way to be creative for me too, even though it is just recording the games. If you have a need to create, it will never go away, in some form it will demand your attention. I said all this because no one ever encouraged me and I'm still bitter about it. People deserve to be encouraged Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. scoundrel don't remind me of what Bethesda can do or I will laugh at Jaal each time I see him in the game LOL! Trust me (from experience) you can't wait on someone to encourage you or offer you support. Most people will look down on your efforts, especially if it's fan art or fanfic. I heartily feel the desire and need to create comes from within, and at some point it's so great that you can't contain it. You have to write that story and share it (or whatever medium you use). That said, writing, drawing, producing art, they don't occur in a vacuum, and that's where readers, viewers, fans, etc. come in. Nothing makes you feel more like hopeless rubbish than pouring your heart and soul into something and getting nothing or very little in return. Yeah, you really do have to advertise the shit out of yourself sometimes, though that can feel embarrassing. Also, what I'm learning is that people will read your stories (or enjoy your art) and not leave a comment, not reblog, not even press like or kudos. It's comforting in a way, but it's also very disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:43:37 GMT
Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. I'm very sorry for your loss. It is not stupid to let it affect you. It is stupid to demand we are not affected. People say stuff like that because they can't actually handle their own feelings, and seeing other showing feelings openly makes them anxious about it. You will draw and write again, I promise you. You will do it when time is right, and funny thing is, even if you are not using your talents for years and years, they develope. That's happened to me, at least. Thank you. Really. Thank you for those words! I This is partly why I got into ME. I used Shepard as a way to focus my feelings. I was taught my whole life to hold everything in and never cry, so the games helped me grieve. When Mordin, Thane, Legion and EDI died I actually cried and I never do that. Artemis thank you too and you're right, it's sad when your effort is treated like nothing.
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 18, 2017 18:48:19 GMT
You know what, the will to draw and write will come back, if it haven't already. Same happened to me. I stopped doing both after my teens, because life was shit, very literally, and no one ever encouraged me to continue. I was sure I'm so lousy I might aswell drown myself. Now I'm older (again, literally) and first I began to draw, then I began to write. In English. The need was so bad I had to do it. Right now I don't really do either, though I wrote one story not so long ago, but it is more just lack of inspiration and laziness, and the need is not there right now. Making videos has always been a way to be creative for me too, even though it is just recording the games. If you have a need to create, it will never go away, in some form it will demand your attention. I said all this because no one ever encouraged me and I'm still bitter about it. People deserve to be encouraged Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. scoundrel don't remind me of what Bethesda can do or I will laugh at Jaal each time I see him in the game LOL! That's so awful guys, I don't know what to say... Hugs to both of you and I really hope you find joy in creating again!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:52:42 GMT
Ian is now saying any art with Vetra and Jaal with Sara is not a confirmed romance lol
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 18, 2017 18:54:07 GMT
Ian is now saying any art with Vetra and Jaal with Sara is not a confirmed romance lol They're teasing us. Although there's little doubt in my mind that both are romances.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:56:09 GMT
Yeah I lost my grandparents back-to-back in less than a year. It was my first deaths I ever experienced and I spent my life with them and my mom and uncle. We were a huge family living in the same home. They were more like a mother and father and my mom is more like my sister and my uncle is like a brother. They started me on my art path and without them and how horribly they died, I broke down whenever I would pick up a pencil. And no one has ever told me to try and draw. They all said I was being stupid for letting it affect me and then let me just fade into the background while they moved on. So I know the feeling. scoundrel don't remind me of what Bethesda can do or I will laugh at Jaal each time I see him in the game LOL! Trust me (from experience) you can't wait on someone to encourage you or offer you support. Most people will look down on your efforts, especially if it's fan art or fanfic. I heartily feel the desire and need to create comes from within, and at some point it's so great that you can't contain it. You have to write that story and share it (or whatever medium you use). That said, writing, drawing, producing art, they don't occur in a vacuum, and that's where readers, viewers, fans, etc. come in. Nothing makes you feel more like hopeless rubbish than pouring your heart and soul into something and getting nothing or very little in return. Yeah, you really do have to advertise the shit out of yourself sometimes, though that can feel embarrassing. Also, what I'm learning is that people will read your stories (or enjoy your art) and not leave a comment, not reblog, not even press like or kudos. It's comforting in a way, but it's also very disappointing. When I started publishing anything I did, drawing (I had deviantart gallery but it is long gone), writing (that is still a valid thing and now and then someone even reads them, lol), but especially when I started Youtube, I was super-anxious about feedback. I was really insecure, but the need to show what I'd done was there. When one of my videos got over 100 000 views I stopped being anxious. At that point I realised that the best thing to do is to do it all for myself, and if other people like it, even better. I can't make them like it. Yet, I'm not those people who create for other people, or try to create something that would attract views or readers. I create from deep inside myself. When I wrote about Marnh and Marne (my characters in SWTOR), they both have pieces of me in them, painful pieces. Writing about Marnh was literally healing for me. His feelings were my feelings that I had experienced, but I could give him the happy life I never had. I still love him so much it is crazy. Self-expression is more important for me than getting people to notice me. So, I'm not anxious anymore about views and readers, and I'm never disappointed. I've accepted that my way of doing things is not what quite many people like, but I'm in this world to do my own thing, 100%.
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 18, 2017 18:57:17 GMT
Ian is now saying any art with Vetra and Jaal with Sara is not a confirmed romance lol BW pls stop hurting me I've done nothing to you...
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