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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 16, 2017 18:43:47 GMT
If they make a patch 1.10, I can't see them needing to make this couple any more improved, and I do hope they focus on the other romance's animations. They could always actually make the no sex choice mean something other than be a cruel lie. But yeah, they need to start working on the other romances now.
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Post by Dirk on Jul 16, 2017 22:38:09 GMT
This is a great point. What Bioware needs to do from now on is to put equal effort into different sex romance and same sex romance when it comes to bi romances. That means that copy paste would not work. And bi romance should not be designed to cater to only a certain gender. Bi Jaal is one good way to do this. Reyes/Scott romance, on the other hand, is not. And Bioware is so adamant on not fixing it with all their excuses. I have a feeling they have too many assets shared with the Reyes romance, and if they tweak one it fucks up the other, and they are clearly are more concerned with the Sara/Reyes animations. It's why they must not do this copy and paste thing anymore in the future! Yeah this is one of the possible reasons a Bioware dev why, despite that they are aware of the bug, they did not fix it. But this is already patch 1.09. It is time to correct this stupid mistake in the next patch, imo. This also reminds me how lazy Bioware can be when it comes to animations in s/s romance. They still have not fixed Sara/PB scene. I am still waiting for more Gil content as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 2:21:42 GMT
I have a feeling they have too many assets shared with the Reyes romance, and if they tweak one it fucks up the other, and they are clearly are more concerned with the Sara/Reyes animations. It's why they must not do this copy and paste thing anymore in the future! Yeah this is one of the possible reasons a Bioware dev why, despite that they are aware of the bug, they did not fix it. But this is already patch 1.09. It is time to correct this stupid mistake in the next patch, imo. This also reminds me how lazy Bioware can be when it comes to animations in s/s romance. They still have not fixed Sara/PB scene. I am still waiting for more Gil content as well. I agree. they need to find a way to fix the scene and separate the animations so one can be altered without effecting the other-if they can't do that...then it's time to find outside help (like they did with Cora's scene clearly)
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 17, 2017 5:06:15 GMT
Here are the ending pics, sorry it took a while but I've been really busy. No matter what Ryder I pick they always make the derpiest faces here, but it's a beautiful scene...I also hope I'm not breaking any rules. I might of got carried away with the pics but I couldn't choose. I also know you wanted to see them so I'm paging you @tigerlily I just love how happy Jaal looks here lol.
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Post by stheryss on Jul 17, 2017 18:22:29 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I've died and gone to heaven! That is the couple of the year! OMG I am freakin' melting from the hotness (and squealing from the adorableness of both their goofy smiles of love)!!! Jaal also wins for the best ass ever haha Now I can continue my Sara/Jaal playthrough without checking here daily! Scott/Jaal is adorable, but I love my Sara/Jaal the most, especially after BW made it even better with the recent patch! They made it BETTER? Again? >.> The completionist in me is dying. What changes did they make now?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 18, 2017 20:50:22 GMT
This sucks. We're losing a great dev and getting back a meh dev.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 21:29:36 GMT
This sucks. We're losing a great dev and getting back a meh dev. yeah I'm not excited about Casey Hudson returning one bit and don't know how I should feel. I guess all that's left is to wait and see but I'm going to be side eyeing nervously.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 21:36:35 GMT
Gay/Bi men totally deserved Jaal. I'm glad we got him too. Straight women deserved a Sara trailer, and they should have got it BEFORE launch, not after. All of those things deserved to be bitched about. I regret nothing! If we don't stand up for ourselves-no one else will-that's for damn sure!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 21:37:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 21:44:04 GMT
This sucks. We're losing a great dev and getting back a meh dev. yeah I'm not excited about Casey Hudson returning one bit and don't know how I should feel. I guess all that's left is to wait and see but I'm going to be side eyeing nervously. Agreed. Hudson was responsible for the ending for the trilogy to my knowledge-so getting him back is like WTF...it's like chasing one bad idea after another. I wish things would get back on track for Andromeda. I don't think burning it to the ground and trying yet another reboot is a good idea. I have no interest in trying to get emotionally attached to a whole new cast-if they are willing to completely abandon the Andromeda one so quickly.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 21:52:20 GMT
yeah I'm not excited about Casey Hudson returning one bit and don't know how I should feel. I guess all that's left is to wait and see but I'm going to be side eyeing nervously. Agreed. Hudson was responsible for the ending for the trilogy to my knowledge-so getting him back is like WTF...it's like chasing one bad idea after another. I wish things would get back on track for Andromeda. I don't think burning it to the ground and trying yet another reboot is a good idea. I have no interest in trying to get emotionally attached to a whole new cast-if they are willing to completely abandon the Andromeda one so quickly. yeah they need to stick with Andromeda, I see a lot of potential and room for improvement and I don't like constant reboots over and over again. I'll lose my interest. EDIT: color coded endings what endings? I use JAM mod.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 21:55:41 GMT
Agreed. Hudson was responsible for the ending for the trilogy to my knowledge-so getting him back is like WTF...it's like chasing one bad idea after another. I wish things would get back on track for Andromeda. I don't think burning it to the ground and trying yet another reboot is a good idea. I have no interest in trying to get emotionally attached to a whole new cast-if they are willing to completely abandon the Andromeda one so quickly. yeah they need to stick with Andromeda, I see a lot of potential and room for improvement and I don't like constant reboots over and over again. I'll lose my interest. EDIT: color coded endings what endings? I use JAM mod..... lmao! I'm edgy-I picked the Grey ending. But seriously I am Kaidan trash so I always pick red. The geth and Edi die, but Shepard gets to be with his husband. Totally worth it.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:01:04 GMT
yeah they need to stick with Andromeda, I see a lot of potential and room for improvement and I don't like constant reboots over and over again. I'll lose my interest. EDIT: color coded endings what endings? I use JAM mod..... lmao! I'm edgy-I picked the Grey ending. But seriously I am Kaidan trash so I always pick red. The geth and Edi die, but Shepard gets to be with his husband. Totally worth it. Oh no doubt red is the best color, even without mods it would always be my 1# choice. Depending on the mod I use, sometimes I can still pick a color, only the geth don't die and I can run back into thane's loving arms....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:04:20 GMT
lmao! I'm edgy-I picked the Grey ending. But seriously I am Kaidan trash so I always pick red. The geth and Edi die, but Shepard gets to be with his husband. Totally worth it. Oh no doubt red is the best color even without mods and would always be my 1# choice. Depending on the mod I use, sometimes I can still pick a color, only the geth don't die and I can run back into thanes loving arms.... Thane living through the trilogy would have been amazing. (specially if he would have been bi like he was going to be originally). Sigh...he was too good for this world!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:12:32 GMT
Oh no doubt red is the best color even without mods and would always be my 1# choice. Depending on the mod I use, sometimes I can still pick a color, only the geth don't die and I can run back into thanes loving arms.... Thane living through the trilogy would have been amazing. (specially if he would have been bi like he was going to be originally). Sigh...he was too good for this world! yeah and wasn't Casey really against Shepard being gay? I honestly can't remember because it's been so long but that's another reason to side eye him. And yes they should not have cut thane's content for m/m, such a good romance (even though they forgot about him in 3). I wish more people got to enjoy him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:17:32 GMT
Thane living through the trilogy would have been amazing. (specially if he would have been bi like he was going to be originally). Sigh...he was too good for this world! yeah and wasn't Casey really against Shepard being gay? I honestly can't remember because it's been so long but that's another reason to side eye him. And yes they should not have cut thane's content for m/m, such a good romance (even though they forgot about him in 3). I wish more people got to enjoy him. I am not sure, but I think he is the one that said that. Something to the effect that female shepard wasn't gay when dating Liara cause she's not a woman...uh huh sure! She has a vagina, boobs, uses female pronouns-but totally not a woman. Dumb shit is dumb! lol!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:20:45 GMT
yeah and wasn't Casey really against Shepard being gay? I honestly can't remember because it's been so long but that's another reason to side eye him. And yes they should not have cut thane's content for m/m, such a good romance (even though they forgot about him in 3). I wish more people got to enjoy him. I am not sure, but I think he is the one that said that. Something to the effect that female shepard wasn't gay when dating Liara cause she's not a woman...uh huh sure! She has a vagina, boobs, uses female pronouns-but totally not a woman. Dumb shit is dumb! lol! Yikes, that's just as dumb, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 18, 2017 22:22:13 GMT
Thane living through the trilogy would have been amazing. (specially if he would have been bi like he was going to be originally). Sigh...he was too good for this world! yeah and wasn't Casey really against Shepard being gay? I honestly can't remember because it's been so long but that's another reason to side eye him. And yes they should not have cut thane's content for m/m, such a good romance (even though they forgot about him in 3). I wish more people got to enjoy him. Yes, during ME2 he talked about how the reason there weren't same sex options is because Shepard was straight. When people brought up Femshep with Liara, he started the whole they aren't really females thing. Then people brought up Kelly, and that's when he had to step away from his earlier comments.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:31:29 GMT
yeah and wasn't Casey really against Shepard being gay? I honestly can't remember because it's been so long but that's another reason to side eye him. And yes they should not have cut thane's content for m/m, such a good romance (even though they forgot about him in 3). I wish more people got to enjoy him. Yes, during ME2 he talked about how the reason there weren't same sex options is because Shepard was straight. When people brought up Femshep with Liara, he started the whole they aren't really females thing. Then people brought up Kelly, and that's when he had to step away from his earlier comments. Thank you, it's been so long that I start to forget who said what.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:32:37 GMT
I am not sure, but I think he is the one that said that. Something to the effect that female shepard wasn't gay when dating Liara cause she's not a woman...uh huh sure! She has a vagina, boobs, uses female pronouns-but totally not a woman. Dumb shit is dumb! lol! Yikes, that's just as dumb, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Not enough facepalms in the world. That's why we have to stand up against such things.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:37:26 GMT
Thank you, it's been so long that I start to forget who said what. *sigh* in my rage post I mentioned it. Partly why I am raging and quitting ME for sometime. lol I think I missed that part but in my defense I read threads backwards and can be pretty oblivious at times.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 22:42:25 GMT
lol I think I missed that part but in my defense I read threads backwards and can be pretty oblivious at times. Yeah I just get this nagging feeling he's seen as the thicker skin since a tweet confirmed that Aaryn was doing more for us than we ever knew behind the scenes, and I guess EA didn't like all the fan pandering... that's what worries me. whelp I guess we just have to wait and see if Casey or EA fucks up, then we'll let them know (in a nice way of course). Like I said though, I may not be happy about this at the moment but I'm willing to see if valuable lessons were learned. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 22:48:54 GMT
I've decided to try to focus on what is, and not worry as much about what will be. I will continue to express my love for Jaal and the things they got right in Andromeda though for sure. I want the devs to know that Andromeda definitely has fans! I would love a sequel for sure. I'll also never forget the mistakes that were made, and be first to remind them that we need reassurance going forward with future games.
Dead silence about M/M romance in marketing for the next Dragon Age game-would not go well at all. Lets hope that never goes down again.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 18, 2017 23:06:42 GMT
whelp I guess we just have to wait and see and if Casey or EA fucks up, then we'll let them know (in a nice way of course). Like I said though, I may not be happy about this at the moment but I'm willing to see if valuable lessons were learned. Time will tell. Oh I am sure the games will be great, but when it comes to what we as fans ask, it might not be easily given anymore. MEA is a treasure, and though it will likely continue, I feel like POTC: Curse of the Black Pearl, it's a standalone and any sequel will never feel like a direct sequel. I feel like this can be a double edged sword, because although I think Andromeda is a pretty solid game and very fun, a lot of fan feedback is what helped it improve. keep in mind I'm not talking about trolls but the constructive criticism from fans. Lol and then we have fans that whine about women's haircuts over and over again... I just hope they realize the love for Andromeda and don't forget about it like it never existed. I don't want it scrubbed from memory or rebooted, so It's always good to let them know it's loved.
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Post by Dirk on Jul 18, 2017 23:17:22 GMT
While I am not sure how to feel about Aaryn leaving and Casey joining, I hope that Casey learns from the mistakes in the past and continues to improve on the Bioware formula which is unique to say the least. I also hope that he (and other devs) will tone down queer baiting and quit all the homophobic rhetorics (said long time ago, to be fair). I still remember ME:A marketing and its queer baiting, and I do wish not to experience that again. Yikes, that's just as dumb, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Not enough facepalms in the world. That's why we have to stand up against such things. Let me join you in facepalming that!
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