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Post by Catilina on Feb 10, 2017 22:22:30 GMT
Huh, I had impression that Tevinter and especially Dorian were leaning more on middle east- India in particular. Dorian's VA was ethnically Indian and first they were thinking indian accent for him I think.
In terms of ME:A romances, well diversity of LIs is good. It would be nice to get some suffling. Tevinter is weird, based on ancient Rome (my impression), the population is varied: Dorian and Halward Pavus, Maevaris Tilani, Livius Erimond, Gereon and Felix Alexius, Danarius, Hadriana... So: we will see (perhaps).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 22:34:34 GMT
I thought that the devs confirmed that the closest parallel for Dorian's ethnicity would be Indian. I thought I read that back when DA: I came out. Note: That doesn't mean that all Tevinter magisters have this ethnicity. Look at Mae, very different. Just that the Pavus family has that ethnicity. Although, I'm not sure how far that holds up when scrutinized. But they definitely confirmed him as a person of color and made reference to India. And, yeah, I'm not really thrilled about the trend in gay human guys. They are all swarthy, which isn't necessarily my jam. But Cortez was hot, despite not being my "type". And Dorian was certainly handsome (and grew on me over time), despite not being my "type". So I'm not too upset about this new guy.....yet. Yes, on paper, he sounds similar to Cortez. But I'm going to hold out until I see him. Maybe he'll be unique enough that we won't draw immediate parallels to Cortez. What I'd love to see is a pale blond/redhead human guy for gay PCs. There was a string of them in DA (Alistair, Anders, Sebastian, Cullen), but, outside of Anders (my least favorite -- I mean, a ponytail?!?), they were all straight. Give me a Cullen looking soldier. I hope he has more content than Steve and no dead husband... But maybe we're lucky and that certain NPC isn't our gay romance option and just a fling...that would explain his fade to black sex scene. I'd like to see a pale redhead, too...That would be interesting, especially if he had freckles.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 10, 2017 23:38:27 GMT
I'd personally want Jason Momoa as the next gay love interest but that's just me.
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Post by disgustednoise on Feb 11, 2017 0:56:43 GMT
I'm pretty sure Dorian's supposed to look southeast Asian, either way. Really? He kinda looks like a Spanish lothario to me... Note: that's what he looks like to me, not what he actually is, obviously. Gaider absolutely said on his Tumblr that Dorian was ethnically Indian/Southeast Asian.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 11, 2017 1:15:02 GMT
Really? He kinda looks like a Spanish lothario to me... Note: that's what he looks like to me, not what he actually is, obviously. Gaider absolutely said on his Tumblr that Dorian was ethnically Indian/Southeast Asian. Good to know! I wasn't around a whole lot prior to DAI going live so I missed a lot of that stuff.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 11, 2017 2:29:08 GMT
Guys stahp with the photos, I can't Usually I don't have a type, I'm open to every ethnicity (or species in this universe lol), but since I was little I have an eternal crush on Eric from The Little Mermaid, so give me Henry Cavill-like character and I'll be happy Not every Spaniard or Latino has to be dark-skinned, I'm from spain and I have Spanish and German blood through my veins, and there are many people with light skin and blue/green eyes here.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 11, 2017 3:24:33 GMT
Really? He kinda looks like a Spanish lothario to me... Note: that's what he looks like to me, not what he actually is, obviously. Gaider absolutely said on his Tumblr that Dorian was ethnically Indian/Southeast Asian. If I remember right they even juggle with the idea of a East Indian accent at one time. Also Gaider talks about it in a presentation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 4:24:03 GMT
That was an awesome video. I've never seen it, so I learned some stuff.
Iron Bull was originally a female?!? Vivienne was originally a Dexter-like killer?!? And she was a blonde white woman AND she was originally an advisor (not a companion) AND she was almost cut!
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That was an awesome video. I've never seen it, so I learned some stuff. Iron Bull was originally a female?!? Vivienne was originally a Dexter-like killer?!? And she was a blonde white woman AND she was originally an advisor (not a companion) AND she was almost cut! The process of creating characters is not as linear as people think. If only.
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Mihura "The Fake Warden"? How literal can you get?
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I thought that the devs confirmed that the closest parallel for Dorian's ethnicity would be Indian. I thought I read that back when DA: I came out. Note: That doesn't mean that all Tevinter magisters have this ethnicity. Look at Mae, very different. Just that the Pavus family has that ethnicity. Although, I'm not sure how far that holds up when scrutinized. But they definitely confirmed him as a person of color and made reference to India. And, yeah, I'm not really thrilled about the trend in gay human guys. They are all swarthy, which isn't necessarily my jam. But Cortez was hot, despite not being my "type". And Dorian was certainly handsome (and grew on me over time), despite not being my "type". So I'm not too upset about this new guy.....yet. Yes, on paper, he sounds similar to Cortez. But I'm going to hold out until I see him. Maybe he'll be unique enough that we won't draw immediate parallels to Cortez. What I'd love to see is a pale blond/redhead human guy for gay PCs. There was a string of them in DA (Alistair, Anders, Sebastian, Cullen), but, outside of Anders (my least favorite -- I mean, a ponytail?!?), they were all straight. Give me a Cullen looking soldier. Hah, after Zevran there hasn't been "my type" available, but Kaidan is hot. Zevran was really my type. Small, blonde and pretty. And long hair. I loved Anders' old model. Oh, I forgot Fenris! Fenris was soooo my type too. His VO managed to make him masculine though (not a bad thing, he did awesome job), and I don't remember there being talk about him being too stereotypical gay. Most of the male-characters, hetero or gay, are not my type. That's what you get when you go for effeminate type. Everyone thinks that is stereotypically gay and after Zevran...we won't see another. They won't step to that land mine again. Zevran wasn't even gay, he was bisexual, but yet there was whining about him being too stereotypical. Obviously I should be ashamed of my tastes. No can do. In a second I found a picture that hit me hard:
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Hah, after Zevran there hasn't been "my type" available, but Kaidan is hot. Zevran was really my type. Small, blonde and pretty. And long hair. I loved Anders' old model. Oh, I forgot Fenris! Fenris was soooo my type too. His VO managed to make him masculine though, and I don't remember there being talk about him being too stereotypical gay. Most of the male-characters, hetero or gay, are not my type. That's what you get when you go for effeminate type. Everyone thinks that is stereotypically gay and after Zevran...we won't see another. They won't step to that land mine again. Zevran wasn't even gay, he was bisexual, but yet there was whining about him being too stereotypical. Obviously I should be ashamed of my tastes. No can do. That's so funny. I agree that Kaidan is hot (but also "dark" as in "tall dark and handsome" type with dark hair and dark eyes). Other than that, we totally don't overlap at all. I find that thin, waify, elf look totally unattractive. I was not at all into Zevran (in addition to hating his personality and romance arc). I chose Anders over Fenris because, while Fenris was a tough warrior, he was so little and thin and emo looking. Anders was at least normal human size, even if he did have earrings and a ponytail. I was one of the very few m/m fans who was excited to hear that Iron Bull was an option for us. As a kid, I had a HUGE crush on Bo Duke (from the Dukes of Hazzard) and it's just morphed from there into a blond cowboy, blue collar, rugged man thing. And my other one was Nicholas Clay as Lancelot in Excalibur. And that's why I have a KISA thing. And we just don't get those guys as m/m options. Kaidan and Cortez were the closest that we got. I actually liked them both, in theory. But Cortez barely had content. And Kaidan's m/m content was totally an afterthought cobbled together in a Frankenstein monster romance from the m/f version.
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Hah, after Zevran there hasn't been "my type" available, but Kaidan is hot. Zevran was really my type. Small, blonde and pretty. And long hair. I loved Anders' old model. Oh, I forgot Fenris! Fenris was soooo my type too. His VO managed to make him masculine though, and I don't remember there being talk about him being too stereotypical gay. Most of the male-characters, hetero or gay, are not my type. That's what you get when you go for effeminate type. Everyone thinks that is stereotypically gay and after Zevran...we won't see another. They won't step to that land mine again. Zevran wasn't even gay, he was bisexual, but yet there was whining about him being too stereotypical. Obviously I should be ashamed of my tastes. No can do. That's so funny. I agree that Kaidan is hot (but also "dark" as in "tall dark and handsome" type with dark hair and dark eyes). Other than that, we totally don't overlap at all. I find that thin, waify, elf look totally unattractive. I was not at all into Zevran (in addition to hating his personality and romance arc). I chose Anders over Fenris because, while Fenris was a tough warrior, he was so little and thin and emo looking. Anders was at least normal human size, even if he did have earrings and a ponytail. I was one of the very few m/m fans who was excited to hear that Iron Bull was an option for us. As a kid, I had a HUGE crush on Bo Duke (from the Dukes of Hazzard) and it's just morphed from there into a blond cowboy, blue collar, rugged man thing. And we just don't get those as m/m options. Kaidan and Cortez were the closest that we got. I actually liked them both, in theory. But Cortez barely had content. And Kaidan's m/m content was totally an afterthought cobbled together in a Frankenstein monster romance from the m/f version. Kaidan is the type I see as handsome. I really like bishounen-type (yes, I like Asian men, yammy). This is strange, when I think about it, because as a gay transman one would think I search for masculinity in men, because as a man I'm not a masculine one, and I don't even try to be more masculine than I am. Psychologically I'm plenty masculine. If I look at my real life, there has been some very masculine men, but with them I was even unhappier because then I was slammed in the "you are woman, act like one"-box so hard no wonder I have brushed even a thought of relationships away. I often wonder why our preferences are what they are, not meaning sexual orientation here but why we like some type etc. Why I've liked effeminate men since I was 15. Then there is a problem...I don't always know if I fancy some man's looks because he is my type or because I want to be like him. They overlap, and it is really confusing. I didn't even romance Cortez before last year when I decided to get it done and recorded it at the same time. It was better than I expected, but it is far from my favorites. I have romanced Kaidan in ME1 with male-Shepard (recorded that too last year) several times, and that brings nicely over the next two games too. That made the romance with Kaidan super for me, but I must admit I temper with BioWare- games as much as I can to make them more to my liking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 8:41:13 GMT
Oh my goood, what a hottie. I wish I could create Scott like this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 8:52:20 GMT
@daveliam I hope they do better with Jaal... after I heard those things about his "sex scene" with Scott I'm afraid that he's just a minor version of the female romance again.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 11, 2017 14:29:54 GMT
That's so funny. I agree that Kaidan is hot (but also "dark" as in "tall dark and handsome" type with dark hair and dark eyes). Other than that, we totally don't overlap at all. I find that thin, waify, elf look totally unattractive. I was not at all into Zevran (in addition to hating his personality and romance arc). I chose Anders over Fenris because, while Fenris was a tough warrior, he was so little and thin and emo looking. Anders was at least normal human size, even if he did have earrings and a ponytail. I was one of the very few m/m fans who was excited to hear that Iron Bull was an option for us. As a kid, I had a HUGE crush on Bo Duke (from the Dukes of Hazzard) and it's just morphed from there into a blond cowboy, blue collar, rugged man thing. And we just don't get those as m/m options. Kaidan and Cortez were the closest that we got. I actually liked them both, in theory. But Cortez barely had content. And Kaidan's m/m content was totally an afterthought cobbled together in a Frankenstein monster romance from the m/f version. Kaidan is the type I see as handsome. I really like bishounen-type (yes, I like Asian men, yammy). This is strange, when I think about it, because as a gay transman one would think I search for masculinity in men, because as a man I'm not a masculine one, and I don't even try to be more masculine than I am. Psychologically I'm plenty masculine. If I look at my real life, there has been some very masculine men, but with them I was even unhappier because then I was slammed in the "you are woman, act like one"-box so hard no wonder I have brushed even a thought of relationships away. I often wonder why our preferences are what they are, not meaning sexual orientation here but why we like some type etc. Why I've liked effeminate men since I was 15. Then there is a problem...I don't always know if I fancy some man's looks because he is my type or because I want to be like him. They overlap, and it is really confusing. I didn't even romance Cortez before last year when I decided to get it done and recorded it at the same time. It was better than I expected, but it is far from my favorites. I have romanced Kaidan in ME1 with male-Shepard (recorded that too last year) several times, and that brings nicely over the next two games too. That made the romance with Kaidan super for me, but I must admit I temper with BioWare- games as much as I can to make them more to my liking. Awww that hug I hate the fact that you can't have that hug if you don't romance him, as a friend I mean, like Tali or Liara hugs as friends, how I hate handshakes I'm doing a not-modded Kaidanmance playthrough right now and I hate how they shove straight romance down our throats
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 14:44:58 GMT
Awww that hug I hate the fact that you can't have that hug if you don't romance him, as a friend I mean, like Tali or Liara hugs as friends, how I hate handshakes I'm doing a not-modded Kaidanmance playthrough right now and I hate how they shove straight romance down our throats lol sorry i read that differently *ignore me* Anyway, yiss. I hope Andromeda avoids this whole romance being pushed on us, like how Kaidan, Ash and Liara are all gagging to jump into bed with Shep as soon as things go all Prothean Beacon-y. Would prefer it if we as the player characters could initiate this, or at the very least, allow characters to express interest but perhaps a little more subtle? I physically feel sick every time I play ME1, and after Eden Prime, Ash is all over me in the Med-Bay, lol its the only time in the entire trilogy I choose the Renegade Options. Seeing her go from "Hot dayum I want me summa that" to "Well, he's a bit of a dick" always makes me laugh. That and telling her after I don't want her on the Normandy and Anderson was a fool to just allow her on board
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 11, 2017 15:21:18 GMT
Awww that hug I hate the fact that you can't have that hug if you don't romance him, as a friend I mean, like Tali or Liara hugs as friends, how I hate handshakes I'm doing a not-modded Kaidanmance playthrough right now and I hate how they shove straight romance down our throats lol sorry i read that differently *ignore me* Anyway, yiss. I hope Andromeda avoids this whole romance being pushed on us, like how Kaidan, Ash and Liara are all gagging to jump into bed with Shep as soon as things go all Prothean Beacon-y. Would prefer it if we as the player characters could initiate this, or at the very least, allow characters to express interest but perhaps a little more subtle? I physically feel sick every time I play ME1, and after Eden Prime, Ash is all over me in the Med-Bay, lol its the only time in the entire trilogy I choose the Renegade Options. Seeing her go from "Hot dayum I want me summa that" to "Well, he's a bit of a dick" always makes me laugh. That and telling her after I don't want her on the Normandy and Anderson was a fool to just allow her on board I kinda want a mix. Just like in real life, there are people that will just go for it and confess their attraction right away and other people you will need to get to know better before they bother to even look at you that way. Some will quietly love from afar (this seems to be the most common with Bioware) and others just will not be into you no matter what. I like that kind of diversity.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 11, 2017 16:26:32 GMT
Awww that hug I hate the fact that you can't have that hug if you don't romance him, as a friend I mean, like Tali or Liara hugs as friends, how I hate handshakes I'm doing a not-modded Kaidanmance playthrough right now and I hate how they shove straight romance down our throats lol sorry i read that differently *ignore me* Anyway, yiss. I hope Andromeda avoids this whole romance being pushed on us, like how Kaidan, Ash and Liara are all gagging to jump into bed with Shep as soon as things go all Prothean Beacon-y. Would prefer it if we as the player characters could initiate this, or at the very least, allow characters to express interest but perhaps a little more subtle? I physically feel sick every time I play ME1, and after Eden Prime, Ash is all over me in the Med-Bay, lol its the only time in the entire trilogy I choose the Renegade Options. Seeing her go from "Hot dayum I want me summa that" to "Well, he's a bit of a dick" always makes me laugh. That and telling her after I don't want her on the Normandy and Anderson was a fool to just allow her on board lol really? XD english is not my first language so most of the time I don't know if what I'm saying is right, I saw that expression many times when homophobes use it for arguments about gay agenda and all that crap, so I thought it would be funny to use it the other way around haha unlike them I like all kind of romances though, but it irks me so much how forced is romance in ME1 (and 2) if you want to stay single or want a gay Shepard waiting for Kaidan/Cortez. I read that you only have to choose the "you're out the line" dialogue when Ashley gives her opinion about the aliens in the ship to cut any posibility of romance with her, so I'll do that. I kinda want a mix. Just like in real life, there are people that will just go for it and confess their attraction right away and other people you will need to get to know better before they bother to even look at you that way. Some will quietly love from afar (this seems to be the most common with Bioware) and others just will not be into you no matter what. I like that kind of diversity. I would like that and not, I prefer to control this kind of things in a game because I always feel really bad when I reject the character, when I turned down Liara in ME1 I felt like a real bastard
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