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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 1, 2017 20:20:59 GMT
I'm assuming, also assuming that people can datamine this, that there won't be any actual information for hours yet? Or does this sorta thing happen really quickly??
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Post by jjdxb on Mar 1, 2017 20:21:17 GMT
If Jaal isn't bi at this point-there will be a pretty big negative reaction. They have allowed the speculation to grow for far too long. That's all I'm saying. They're in a lose-lose situation when it comes to romances: either they do it the DA:I way and get raged at, or they do it this way and get raged at. They can't even choose not to do romances, because then that's lose-lose-lose (because they'd be raged at). And if they make everyone bi, they'll also be raged at (but this time including me). They had absolutely no idea that the fan reaction to Jaal would be like when they decided on the the romance-silent policy. And they've only officially confirmed one (though Jaal is heavily implied) romance thus far, and Sara-players have absolutely no confirmed options. I'm not going to hold them responsible for any fallout because nothing they could have done would have avoided romance related fallout. And if there's nothing they could have done to avoid fallout, then it's not their fault. At that point, the blame must be shifted to fall squarely on the other party's shoulders. At least in this case the fallout is fairly self-contained on this forum
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Post by Artemis on Mar 1, 2017 20:21:37 GMT
I'm assuming, also assuming that people can datamine this, that there won't be any actual information for hours yet? Or does this sorta thing happen really quickly?? [ STARES INTO THE SUN] I am so ready to go dark. Uhh actually I would think it might take days if it happens at all.
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 1, 2017 20:23:36 GMT
Eeeeeeeeaarrrrggggghhh I totally should be going dark now but saw that stuff about datamine maybe starting Gawd I'm scared right now I'm right there with you. I told myself that I would go dark once real leaks started to become a possibility, but, at the same, I really want to know the romance options.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 1, 2017 20:23:51 GMT
If Jaal isn't bi at this point-there will be a pretty big negative reaction. They have allowed the speculation to grow for far too long. That's all I'm saying. They're in a lose-lose situation when it comes to romances: either they do it the DA:I way and get raged at, or they do it this way and get raged at. They can't even choose not to do romances, because then that's lose-lose-lose (because they'd be raged at). And if they make everyone bi, they'll also be raged at (but this time including me). They had absolutely no idea that the fan reaction to Jaal would be like when they decided on the the romance-silent policy. And they've only officially confirmed one (though Jaal is heavily implied) romance thus far, and Sara-players have absolutely no confirmed options. I'm not going to hold them responsible for any fallout because nothing they could have done would have avoided romance related fallout. And if there's nothing they could have done to avoid fallout, then it's not their fault. At that point, the blame must be shifted to fall squarely on the other party's shoulders. At least in this case the fallout is fairly self-contained on this forum While you are annoyingly correct, I think after two games of zero gay romances, and three games of zero gay/bi male alien romances, they'd want to give a little variety to us.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Mar 1, 2017 20:24:10 GMT
I'm assuming, also assuming that people can datamine this, that there won't be any actual information for hours yet? Or does this sorta thing happen really quickly?? [ STARES INTO THE SUN] I am so ready to go dark. Uhh actually I would think it might take days if it happens at all. Oh wow, really?? [ CHUCKLES] I guess that means I can take breaks between refreshing the boards, then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:24:22 GMT
Someone posted on the other thread about the preloading stuff, but datamining likely won't start until the Early Access, so I wouldn't get your hopes up about learning anything until then.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 1, 2017 20:25:08 GMT
They're in a lose-lose situation when it comes to romances: either they do it the DA:I way and get raged at, or they do it this way and get raged at. They can't even choose not to do romances, because then that's lose-lose-lose (because they'd be raged at). And if they make everyone bi, they'll also be raged at (but this time including me). They had absolutely no idea that the fan reaction to Jaal would be like when they decided on the the romance-silent policy. And they've only officially confirmed one (though Jaal is heavily implied) romance thus far, and Sara-players have absolutely no confirmed options. I'm not going to hold them responsible for any fallout because nothing they could have done would have avoided romance related fallout. And if there's nothing they could have done to avoid fallout, then it's not their fault. At that point, the blame must be shifted to fall squarely on the other party's shoulders. At least in this case the fallout is fairly self-contained on this forum While you are annoyingly correct, I think after two games of zero gay romances, and three games of zero gay/bi male alien romances, they'd want to give a little variety to us. Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:25:40 GMT
Days? OH dear. I guess I should go back to playing Mass Effect 3 then. If there is a full list I'm sure there will be a thread and such-but dang... This is not good for my plan to chill out and try to think about other stuff for a while.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 1, 2017 20:26:30 GMT
Uhh actually I would think it might take days if it happens at all. Oh wow, really?? [ CHUCKLES] I guess that means I can take breaks between refreshing the boards, then. Haha yes calm down, go have a nap, go out for coffee As I understand it, getting info from consoles is harder, but that's the extent of my understanding... I used to mod DAO and DA2 with the save editor and it was super hard, and that was before xbox 1.
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Post by Crim on Mar 1, 2017 20:28:12 GMT
Does anyone have the 'it's happening' gif ready??? I am on my phone alas. always keep one handy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:28:57 GMT
While you are annoyingly correct, I think after two games of zero gay romances, and three games of zero gay/bi male alien romances, they'd want to give a little variety to us. Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head. Agreed!!!!! They had all the tools to make whatever content they wanted, and if we get the shaft-EA isn't to blame.
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 1, 2017 20:30:46 GMT
While you are annoyingly correct, I think after two games of zero gay romances, and three games of zero gay/bi male alien romances, they'd want to give a little variety to us. Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head. This.
So long as everyone has a somewhat equal level of representation, then I don't blame them for anything (even if I don't get exactly who I want).
If, however, representation is not equal--like, say, a certain orientation not getting anyone on the squad--then I do blame them.
Gotta try to stay positive and hopeful though. Too much stress in real life to let video game romance speculation add itself to the mix.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 1, 2017 20:32:20 GMT
If Jaal isn't bi at this point-there will be a pretty big negative reaction. They have allowed the speculation to grow for far too long. That's all I'm saying. They're in a lose-lose situation when it comes to romances: either they do it the DA:I way and get raged at, or they do it this way and get raged at. They can't even choose not to do romances, because then that's lose-lose-lose (because they'd be raged at). And if they make everyone bi, they'll also be raged at (but this time including me). They had absolutely no idea that the fan reaction to Jaal would be like when they decided on the the romance-silent policy. And they've only officially confirmed one (though Jaal is heavily implied) romance thus far, and Sara-players have absolutely no confirmed options. I'm not going to hold them responsible for any fallout because nothing they could have done would have avoided romance related fallout. And if there's nothing they could have done to avoid fallout, then it's not their fault. At that point, the blame must be shifted to fall squarely on the other party's shoulders. At least in this case the fallout is fairly self-contained on this forum On one hand, I understand there's going to be fallout and backlash regardless. That can't be pretty to deal with. On the other, it's dishonest to the LGBT fanbase to expect us to trust in them having significant LGBT content such as a bi/gay male squadmate, especially if it turns out that they don't have one at all. It's better to tell the consumer base of at least one significant option for each orientation, then allow the consumer base to decide if they even want to bother. I think it's better to do it that way and risk people cancelling pre-orders, if it's that important to those individuals, rather than string everyone along, which will inevitably cause a bigger fallout. Because, as we know, the "wait and see" approach has almost never benefited LGBT audiences (see: the whole practice of queerbaiting). True, there will be LGBT content, but we have no guarantee that it'll be anything close to the amount of focus and content and importance we desire, since they absolutely refuse to market it any of it.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 1, 2017 20:33:33 GMT
Oh wow, really?? [ CHUCKLES] I guess that means I can take breaks between refreshing the boards, then. Haha yes calm down, go have a nap, go out for coffee As I understand it, getting info from consoles is harder, but that's the extent of my understanding... I used to mod DAO and DA2 with the save editor and it was super hard, and that was before xbox 1. The wait until then will be brutal, tbh.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 1, 2017 20:34:27 GMT
While you are annoyingly correct, I think after two games of zero gay romances, and three games of zero gay/bi male alien romances, they'd want to give a little variety to us. Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head. What worries me is that this is a legit image that the devs have in their mind, that gay/bi men don't want alien romances. That's why I'm so loud about my need for gay alien romances, to combat all those '' ew no aliens '' comments that seem to be made oddly frequently by gay/bi men in this forum. I'm just super paranoid that the devs are lurking and taking notes ;_; If there are no gay/bi male aliens in MEA, alright, but I'm honestly going to ask the devs if male gayliens exist in the Mass Effect universe at all, because o gayliens in 4 games, something is definitely wrong there, like damn.
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Post by Crim on Mar 1, 2017 20:37:45 GMT
Haha yes calm down, go have a nap, go out for coffee As I understand it, getting info from consoles is harder, but that's the extent of my understanding... I used to mod DAO and DA2 with the save editor and it was super hard, and that was before xbox 1. The wait until then will be brutal, tbh. Welp, I ain't going anywhere. I want to see how accurate dem leaks were. I'm semi-disappointed already so it can't get any worse.
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 1, 2017 20:39:40 GMT
Put your panties back on folks, I'm reading Xbone/PS4 preloads are always heavily encrypted so we may likely not be getting ANYTHING at all
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 1, 2017 20:41:09 GMT
Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head. What worries me is that this is a legit image that the devs have in their mind, that gay/bi men don't want alien romances. That's why I'm so loud about my need for gay alien romances, to combat all those '' ew no aliens '' comments that seem to be made oddly frequently by gay/bi men in this forum. I'm just super paranoid that the devs are lurking and taking notes ;_;
If there are no gay/bi male aliens in MEA, alright, but I'm honestly going to ask the devs if male gayliens exist in the Mass Effect universe at all, because o gayliens in 4 games, something is definitely wrong there, like damn. If the devs are lurking and taking notes, they should totally go lurk and take notes in the Gil Brodie thread. Just saying.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 1, 2017 20:43:35 GMT
Put your panties back on folks, I'm reading Xbone/PS4 preloads are always heavily encrypted so we may likely not be getting ANYTHING at all Oh nooooo well Mid-March it is then
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 1, 2017 20:54:16 GMT
Put your panties back on folks, I'm reading Xbone/PS4 preloads are always heavily encrypted so we may likely not be getting ANYTHING at all Quite possibly, considering it has been available for pre-download for nearly a week and yet not a word from dataminers yet.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 1, 2017 20:54:19 GMT
Well, if it turns out that the only m/m options are two human males, one a crewman and the other off world, then yeah, I will blame the writers to a certain extent, unless I know for certain they were writing with a gun to their head. What worries me is that this is a legit image that the devs have in their mind, that gay/bi men don't want alien romances. That's why I'm so loud about my need for gay alien romances, to combat all those '' ew no aliens '' comments that seem to be made oddly frequently by gay/bi men in this forum. I'm just super paranoid that the devs are lurking and taking notes ;_; If there are no gay/bi male aliens in MEA, alright, but I'm honestly going to ask the devs if male gayliens exist in the Mass Effect universe at all, because o gayliens in 4 games, something is definitely wrong there, like damn. I've actually seen quite a few gay fans on both the subreddit and on tumblr (waaay back when I used to tumblr) talk about how they want to get with aliens (namely, Krogan), so the BSN doesn't represent the whole LGBT fanbase for Bioware. Besides, considering that Liam is likely straight, I don't know if gay dudes not being into aliens is much of an excuse to not give you guys a squadmate option.
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