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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 19:43:24 GMT
I'm not all that into Peebee (yet). She's very... young. I don't get why Bioware is so into making almost all the f/f options really young and, in some cases, super immature. Do lesbians just disappear after they turn thirty? Is there an investigation in the ME universe or the DA setting about all these disappearing lesbians? They have their own arks. Every decade or so, all the lesbians of a certain age band together and set out for another distant galaxy. They say that someday, when the ninth star turns to red giant, that these lesbians will return from their journey, ready to find love, settle down, have fem-preg lesbian babies, and start the cycle all over again.
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 3, 2017 19:47:27 GMT
I just hope if Liam is an option for Scott that Cora will be an option for Sara because it's been four games and female players have not had a human female squad mate romance option. Which I honestly think is the dumbest thing ever. We couldn't get Ash, Miranda, and Jack. Male players already got Kaidan the last game so not having Cora for this game will be a big spit in the face to lesbian players. Asari are gorgeous yes, but I want a human. And Vetra... I'm sorry Turians aren't really my idea of a romance. More like just best friends. Get out of my head, get out of my head!!! Can we also address how that Scott opted not to check on Sara, you dick. I thought that was hilarious.
Everyone: There's an unknown problem with Sara, we need to check it out.
Scott: Don't care. *proceeds to jog out of room*
later
Cora: Lexi's inducing a coma for Sara.
Scott: Meh.
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Post by Crim on Mar 3, 2017 19:48:35 GMT
Not to worry! If Bioware lived up to their expectations on "the banging" which they promised, there should be an extra bevy of "minor romances", where you can sleep around with and stuff (and these tend to be more available to both genders). They did mentioned that "banging" interests extends outside of squad and crewmates. Which is interesting, I'll say. Quality over quantity. NPC romances can never be the same as squad romances. I don't wanna sleep around. My Sara just wants to Romance the shit out of Cora. I know dat feel sis. I only want Cora too. But I don't think it will happen for us... I'm not too keen to have to go asari again either so Suvi looks to be my only hope.
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Post by GordianKnot on Mar 3, 2017 19:52:16 GMT
Yeah, the thing is: we got a multitude of f/f love interests in the trilogy. But there's a reason why no one says their main love interest was, say, Diana Allers. A very small minority of f/f players even bother to go for Samara, Kelly, or Diana just because they literally have little to no content. And Traynor doesn't have that much either, besides being infamously male-gazey and only showing up in the last game. So that just leaves us with Liara. We're worried the same thing could happen here, where our only substantial option is another young asari squadmate that's in all the marketing. I wouldn't go so far as to say "a multitude." Kelly and Traynor were minor characters with no real personalities or significance to the larger story. I get the impression that the only reason Traynor and Cortez even existed was so Bioware could be like "look how progressive we are -- giving people same-sex romance options." The game/story would not have been much different without them. Which leaves us with Liara (and apparently Samara -- is that part of the Citadel DLC content or something?). I'm probably in the minority, but I don't like having asari thrown at us continuously as "look you can be a space lesbian" options. Sure, they look female and talk like female (humans), but it would be really nice to have a human female squadmate romance option (for Sara). I know I can't be the only one who just isn't intrigued by banging aliens.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 3, 2017 19:54:42 GMT
Thanks for the constructive discussion on the topic. You have it right.
You're in a spoiler thread about character romance options. Anything goes on that topic.
Want to talk about the start of the game, other spoiler topics, then please tag or take the discussion elsewhere.
No it's not easy to draw hard lines because people's perceptions of spoilers differ.
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Post by Panda on Mar 3, 2017 19:56:19 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s).
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 19:56:38 GMT
Yeah, the thing is: we got a multitude of f/f love interests in the trilogy. But there's a reason why no one says their main love interest was, say, Diana Allers. A very small minority of f/f players even bother to go for Samara, Kelly, or Diana just because they literally have little to no content. And Traynor doesn't have that much either, besides being infamously male-gazey and only showing up in the last game. So that just leaves us with Liara. We're worried the same thing could happen here, where our only substantial option is another young asari squadmate that's in all the marketing. I wouldn't go so far as to say "a multitude." Kelly and Traynor were minor characters with no real personalities or significance to the larger story. I get the impression that the only reason Traynor and Cortez even existed was so Bioware could be like "look how progressive we are -- giving people same-sex romance options." The game/story would not have been much different without them. Which leaves us with Liara (and apparently Samara -- is that part of the Citadel DLC content or something?). I'm probably in the minority, but I don't like having asari thrown at us continuously as "look you can be a space lesbian" options. Sure, they look female and talk like female (humans), but it would be really nice to have a human female squadmate romance option (for Sara). I know I can't be the only one who just isn't intrigued by banging aliens. With me, I just want more variety in general: lesbian aliens, lesbian humans that aren't just crew. And, like you, I want them to matter. I don't want them to be just random NPCs that feel like an afterthought. I feel like they're just so scared of giving us f/f that isn't cookie cutter or male-gazey because, at the end of the day, it seems like it's for straight men, not us. I want to believe we'll get an older lesbian with the personality of Miranda or Jack or Ashley or whatever, but I doubt it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 3, 2017 19:58:26 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s). Bioware said the crewmembers are as fleshed out as the squadmates.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 19:58:59 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s). My issue is, if crew are really being the treated the exact same as squadmate romances, then why is it so hard to give us more gay/bi squadmates? Why is it that the straight love interests are squadmates, while the rest are often NPCs? Like if they were really the same, there wouldn't be a discrepancy. This isn't Dragon Age, unfortunately.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 3, 2017 19:59:48 GMT
I'm not all that into Peebee (yet). She's very... young. I don't get why Bioware is so into making almost all the f/f options really young and, in some cases, super immature. Do lesbians just disappear after they turn thirty? Is there an investigation in the ME universe or the DA setting about all these disappearing lesbians? They have their own arks. Every decade or so, all the lesbians of a certain age band together and set out for another distant galaxy. So, um. Where can we find these lesbians? Hyopthetically, I mean. This is for science.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 20:02:19 GMT
They have their own arks. Every decade or so, all the lesbians of a certain age band together and set out for another distant galaxy. So, um. Where can we find these lesbians? Hyopthetically, I mean. This is for science. Don't worry. Suvi is tracking them down for us. She, being the invisible lesbian, knows how people keep hidden and how to track them down.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 3, 2017 20:02:59 GMT
Gil better be an asgardian sex god and Reyes better be an aztec sex god, because I'm totally digging Sara x Vetra as canon playthrough, I mean if the leaks are true, with one crewmate (boo) and another one hiding in a faraway planet and beyond.
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Post by uberlurker on Mar 3, 2017 20:07:57 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s). Bioware said the crewmembers are as fleshed out as the squadmates. Bioware says a lot of things that don't turn out to be exactly true. The fact that we don't even know what they look like warrants an eyebrow raised, don't you think?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 3, 2017 20:09:09 GMT
Bioware said the crewmembers are as fleshed out as the squadmates. Bioware says a lot of things. The fact that we don't even know what they look like warrants an eyebrow raised, don't you think? We know what they look like. We've seen multiple images of Kallo, multiple images and now videos of Lexi, we've seen an image of Suvi, and we have a description of Gil. Plus not knowing what someone looks like at this point doesn't mean thay aren't a major character. Case in point, Jien Garson.
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Post by ash on Mar 3, 2017 20:10:12 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s). Bioware said the crewmembers are as fleshed out as the squadmates. They also said that there are more romances than in any bioware game, but guess how much of them will be one-time fling and how much of them will be not-so meaningful. They also said that nobody will be left disappointed with romance options, but if "no gay/bi male squadmate turns out right", guess what. Believing devs about that sort of thing is around same level of being confident in the fact that ice in the middle of a march is not thin. You always want to appeal to your customers, even if the thing you are trying to sell is a complete and utter garbage. Don't know about other countries, but in Russia we have guys who are consistently trying to sell overpriced cleaners, not-certified meds and shady water filters while talking really sweet things about that stuff. And it sells. And this is a relatively small business. Meanwhile, Bioware can tell anything about squadmates and if Gil will be the only one tempest-based m/m romance and will have zero actual content, some guys will riot, but it won't affect them that much - most of their playerbase will be happy and telling people about muh diversity and much fun, cause straight guys will have tons of girls to bang and girls will get hot brand-new alien, tons of f/f options and, if anything, Liam too. At this point I'm starting to think about no-romance play-through being forever alone, because that aspect of their game will freaking hurt. Exploration looks incredible, plot looks incredible, my romance options look so bad I want to cry.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 3, 2017 20:11:07 GMT
I hope that Bioware has develop crewmances so that they full romances as well. I wouldn't mind crewromance at all in that case. I know we will have flings and smaller romances, but those should be extra not someone's main option(s). My issue is, if crew are really being the treated the exact same as squadmate romances, then why is it so hard to give us more gay/bi squadmates? Why is it that the straight love interests are squadmates, while the rest are often NPCs? Like if they were really the same, there wouldn't be a discrepancy. This isn't Dragon Age, unfortunately. If Dragon Age had been done by this particular team... before launch we would NEVER have seen Dorian or Sera. We would get rumors about their names and their "jobs." Inside leaks would reveal they are gay. That's it. We'd learn nothing else until we played the game. Ugh.
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Post by naytnavare on Mar 3, 2017 20:12:06 GMT
Or at least the whole "pushing us away before she lets us love her" thing that so many m/f romances get to have. I'M READY Kate Bishop avatar. Gaylien love. Posting Hercules... Now we're best friends.
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 3, 2017 20:16:41 GMT
Reyes won't be on Tempest = I don't believe at all he will be more than fling/minor romance. Cullen and Josephine are not a comparable examples, they're comparable to Suvi/Gil. Bioware never had major off-world and off-main-base romance so this is a "show me proof" case, until then I don't count Reyes as an 'option' even if he's gay/bi. Minor flings/romances ain't actual options when it's a choice between lots of content (squad/crew romance) and little content.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 3, 2017 20:18:09 GMT
Reyes won't be on Tempest = I don't believe at all he will be more than fling/minor romance. Cullen and Josephine are not a comparable examples, they're comparable to Suvi/Gil. Bioware never had major off-world and off-main-base romance so this is a "show me proof" case, until then I don't count Reyes as an 'option' even if he's gay/bi. Minor flings/romances ain't actual options when it's a choice between lots of content (squad/crew romance) and little content. So the only "full" gay romance is a crewman? I dunno, that seems farfetched even for this dev team.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 3, 2017 20:20:05 GMT
Reyes won't be on Tempest = I don't believe at all he will be more than fling/minor romance. Cullen and Josephine are not a comparable examples, they're comparable to Suvi/Gil. Bioware never had major off-world and off-main-base romance so this is a "show me proof" case, until then I don't count Reyes as an 'option' even if he's gay/bi. Minor flings/romances ain't actual options when it's a choice between lots of content (squad/crew romance) and little content. So the only "full" gay romance is a crewman? I dunno, that seems farfetched even for this dev team. Yeah. I mean I know we don't have comparisons, but the fact that Mac Walters stated his favorite romance in the game is one of the off-ship ones makes me think they could still have quite a bit of content.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 3, 2017 20:20:53 GMT
I'M READY Kate Bishop avatar. Gaylien love. Posting Hercules... Now we're best friends.
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 3, 2017 20:21:01 GMT
So the only "full" gay romance is a crewman? I dunno, that seems farfetched even for this dev team. That is a possibility yes if Gil is the only guy romanceable by Scott on Tempest. May seem like a stretch, but give then history of MASS EFFECT franchise (not the same as Dragon Age), would you be that shocked? Sad answer is no Yeah. I mean I know we don't have comparisons, but the fact that Mac Walters stated his favorite romance in the game is one of the off-ship ones makes me think they could still have quite a bit of content. Mac Walters' track record on saying things combined with no examples of major off-world romances in past Bioware games make me think the opposite. Plus, he didn't even say "this off-world romance has tons of content", he just said it was his favourite. May as well be 1 scene he particularly liked.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 20:21:08 GMT
Reyes won't be on Tempest = I don't believe at all he will be more than fling/minor romance. Cullen and Josephine are not a comparable examples, they're comparable to Suvi/Gil. Bioware never had major off-world and off-main-base romance so this is a "show me proof" case, until then I don't count Reyes as an 'option' even if he's gay/bi. Minor flings/romances ain't actual options when it's a choice between lots of content (squad/crew romance) and little content. So the only "full" gay romance is a crewman? I dunno, that seems farfetched even for this dev team. I wonder if his romance arc is gonna be kind of like how "romancing" Tallis was in that one DA2 DLC, where you flirt with her continuously, except maybe a sex scene on top of that? Maybe he could even be a temporary squadmate... Please?
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 3, 2017 20:23:05 GMT
So the only "full" gay romance is a crewman? I dunno, that seems farfetched even for this dev team. Yeah. I mean I know we don't have comparisons, but the fact that Mac Walters stated his favorite romance in the game is one of the off-ship ones makes me think they could still have quite a bit of content. That reminds me... How many off-ship romances do we have? If the m/m planet hub romance is enough to count as a "main" romance (according to my friend), then are the others just one night stands? Are they just flirtations where you get a kiss at the end and never see them again? I'm curious as to how these planet hub romances are gonna work.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 3, 2017 20:25:55 GMT
Yeah. I mean I know we don't have comparisons, but the fact that Mac Walters stated his favorite romance in the game is one of the off-ship ones makes me think they could still have quite a bit of content. That reminds me... How many off-ship romances do we have? If the m/m planet hub romance is enough to count as a "main" romance (according to my friend), then are the others just one night stands? Are they just flirtations where you get a kiss at the end and never see them again? I'm curious as to how these planet hub romances are gonna work. I don't know how many we have. Bioware never gave details other than that they exist. My guess is several though, ranging from flings to light romances to romances comparable to the Tempest ones.
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