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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 2:58:50 GMT
I felt comfortable enough to actually do so in the first place. Clearly I expected too much of the people in this thread. You asked. I gave an answer. Did you actually want advice or not? Yeah I get the advice "Don't ask us here, go somewhere else"
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 6, 2017 2:59:40 GMT
I'm an elusive and rare gay, you can ask me anything! But not right now, gotta go clean toilets yay.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 6, 2017 3:08:15 GMT
You asked. I gave an answer. Did you actually want advice or not? Yeah I get the advice "Don't ask us here, go somewhere else" As I said before, you obviously don't want to ask us and don't feel comfortable doing so. I gave alternatives. Then, you made it about how I might agree with you, bringing it back to your issue with us and this thread. This was despite my advice having nothing to do with whether you should ask us or not. I don't think you should necessarily avoid asking us, but I gave you alternative routes so you can do something you're more comfortable with. So I'll ask you again, do you actually want advice? Or are you just making these statements to make a point about how uncomfortable you are in this thread?
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 3:10:01 GMT
Yeah I get the advice "Don't ask us here, go somewhere else" As I said before, you obviously don't want to ask us and don't feel comfortable doing so. I gave alternatives. Then, you made it about how I might agree with you, bringing it back to your issue with us and this thread. This was despite my advice having nothing to do with whether you should ask us or not. I don't think you should necessarily avoid asking us, but I gave you alternative routes so you can do something you're more comfortable with. So I'll ask you again, do you actually want advice? Or are you just making these statements to make a point about how uncomfortable you are in this thread? Your claim that I don't want to ask you all or feel comfortable doing so is belied by the fact that I did just that. I'm just....lets say irritated with the responses I got.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 6, 2017 3:15:55 GMT
As I said before, you obviously don't want to ask us and don't feel comfortable doing so. I gave alternatives. Then, you made it about how I might agree with you, bringing it back to your issue with us and this thread. This was despite my advice having nothing to do with whether you should ask us or not. I don't think you should necessarily avoid asking us, but I gave you alternative routes so you can do something you're more comfortable with. So I'll ask you again, do you actually want advice? Or are you just making these statements to make a point about how uncomfortable you are in this thread? Your claim that I don't want to ask you all or feel comfortable doing so is belied by the fact that I did just that. I'm just....lets say irritated with the responses I got. And I didn't say you had to, but, when you ask me a question and I answer, then you bring it back to your issue with this thread... then, it's hard for me to approach you in good faith. You either want advice or you don't. If you make these conversation about approaching LGBT people back into your issue with a separate group of LGBT people, then I'm obviously going to be wary. As for you asking us, there's been a lot of conversations in this thread, so I don't always remember everything perfectly. I would love to have more context on how exactly you asked, when you asked, basically the context.
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Post by cespar on Jun 6, 2017 3:16:01 GMT
Caravaggio is actually trying to help you. She's giving you tips on how to get the proper information you want. But all I'm seeing you're doing is causing a problem.
Lol just don't get mad when others ignore you, Steel.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 3:22:15 GMT
Your claim that I don't want to ask you all or feel comfortable doing so is belied by the fact that I did just that. I'm just....lets say irritated with the responses I got. And I didn't say you had to, but, when you ask me a question and I answer, then you bring it back to your issue with this thread... then, it's hard for me to approach you in good faith. You either want advice or you don't. If you make these conversation about approaching LGBT people back into your issue with a separate group of LGBT people, then I'm obviously going to be wary. As for you asking us, there's been a lot of conversations in this thread, so I don't always remember everything perfectly. I would love to have more context on how exactly you asked, when you asked, basically the context. I read your advice and I get it, I'm wondering why this thread wasn't included in it since this is a good place to get a number of LGBT people able to see my question. As for the context, just glance a few pages back, if you see a run of gifs from NickClark all in one post you're in the right neighborhood.
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Post by cespar on Jun 6, 2017 3:22:59 GMT
The people that lives in The foster's home of Imaginary friends? Now you've done it, you've made me feel nostalgic about that show. RIP, old cartoon network. But Regular Show and Gumball is good.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 3:23:03 GMT
Caravaggio is actually trying to help you. She's giving you tips on how to get the proper information you want. But all I'm seeing you're doing is causing a problem. Lol just don't get mad when others ignore you, Steel. Right now I'm wondering why this thread doesn't qualify, its nothing if not populated by LGBT people. And I'm not mad I was ignored, quite the opposite.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 6, 2017 3:23:12 GMT
Caravaggio is actually trying to help you. She's giving you tips on how to get the proper information you want. But all I'm seeing you're doing is causing a problem. Lol just don't get mad when others ignore you, Steel. The few times I'm actually nice and they go wasted.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 6, 2017 3:27:08 GMT
And I didn't say you had to, but, when you ask me a question and I answer, then you bring it back to your issue with this thread... then, it's hard for me to approach you in good faith. You either want advice or you don't. If you make these conversation about approaching LGBT people back into your issue with a separate group of LGBT people, then I'm obviously going to be wary. As for you asking us, there's been a lot of conversations in this thread, so I don't always remember everything perfectly. I would love to have more context on how exactly you asked, when you asked, basically the context. I read your advice and I get it, I'm wondering why this thread wasn't included in it since this is a good place to get a number of LGBT people able to see my question. As for the context, just glance a few pages back, if you see a run of gifs from NickClark all in one post you're in the right neighborhood. I'm looking through the last three pages, but I'm having a hard time finding what you're talking about. Could someone list specific pages?
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Post by cespar on Jun 6, 2017 3:32:04 GMT
Caravaggio is actually trying to help you. She's giving you tips on how to get the proper information you want. But all I'm seeing you're doing is causing a problem. Lol just don't get mad when others ignore you, Steel. Right now I'm wondering why this thread doesn't qualify, its nothing if not populated by LGBT people. And I'm not mad I was ignored, quite the opposite. Well some of the LGBT people here just don't feel comfortable or want to engaging with you. It is what it is. But at least others are willing to get you tips and advice to other sources. Avoids problems on both sides. My bad for assuming you were mad.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 3:33:14 GMT
Right now I'm wondering why this thread doesn't qualify, its nothing if not populated by LGBT people. And I'm not mad I was ignored, quite the opposite. Well some of the LGBT people here just don't feel comfortable or want to engaging with you. It is what it is. But at least others are willing to get you tips and advice to other sources. Avoids problems on both sides. My bad for assuming you were mad. Oh I am mad, but not because I was ignored
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Post by JadePrince on Jun 6, 2017 3:52:33 GMT
Steelcan and anyone else who is confused: Some LGBT people are totally cool with answering questions and educating people. Some aren't. This thread has a mix of both kinds. If you ask a personal question that relates to the life experience of LGBT people in a place that isn't specifically set up for that (such as this thread, which is about discussing video game romance-- with an incidental lean toward frustrated LGBT people commiserating with eachother and their allies), you have to expect to get mixed reactions. That's... that's just how people work. Some of us will be cool and nice and answer you as helpfully as we can, and some of us are going to be tired and frustrated with having to explain basic LGBT terminology that is easily google-able. And some people (like me, for instance) will feel differently on different days depending on our current level of stamina and/or patience and/or emotional fortitude. But it's never an LGBT person's responsibility to explain/educate someone with a question, even if that question is asked very nicely. I hope that explains a little bit and helps you understand why you got the reception you did today.
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Post by JadePrince on Jun 6, 2017 4:24:13 GMT
ALSO, one more thing, in regards to the apparent disconnect between what I'm saying now, and the idea that asking LGBT people about their experiences is important for writing about LGBT people in an authentic way-- one of the BIG differences there is this: If I have a straight friend with a question about my bisexual trans experiences, I will answer them based on whether or not I have the energy/desire to do so. Cool? cool. If I have a straight friend (or there's a straight writer for a video game dev studio, for example) who wants some beta reading or wants my extended input on a queer character/story they want to write, I will answer all their questions happily because they are probably paying me to be a consultant (if it's a close friend, I'll do it for cookies and a credit, if it's a big game studio, I'll do it for $20/hr-- hey I live in California. Cost of living here ain't cheap). That said, my services are available and affordable should anyone at Bioware happen to be lurking in this thread and need help writing a bisexual or a trans guy. Edit: Apologies for the double-post. Apparently I'm talkative tonight.
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Post by fadburger on Jun 6, 2017 4:39:47 GMT
*looks out to the ocean* Precious.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 6, 2017 5:18:03 GMT
Caravaggio is actually trying to help you. She's giving you tips on how to get the proper information you want. But all I'm seeing you're doing is causing a problem. Lol just don't get mad when others ignore you, Steel. Right now I'm wondering why this thread doesn't qualify, its nothing if not populated by LGBT people. And I'm not mad I was ignored, quite the opposite. You can ask me anything! Unless you can't because I blocked you waaay waaay back hummmm...
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 6, 2017 8:09:30 GMT
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Post by Dirk on Jun 6, 2017 8:09:55 GMT
Steelcan and anyone else who is confused: Some LGBT people are totally cool with answering questions and educating people. Some aren't. This thread has a mix of both kinds. If you ask a personal question that relates to the life experience of LGBT people in a place that isn't specifically set up for that (such as this thread, which is about discussing video game romance-- with an incidental lean toward frustrated LGBT people commiserating with eachother and their allies), you have to expect to get mixed reactions. That's... that's just how people work. Some of us will be cool and nice and answer you as helpfully as we can, and some of us are going to be tired and frustrated with having to explain basic LGBT terminology that is easily google-able. And some people (like me, for instance) will feel differently on different days depending on our current level of stamina and/or patience and/or emotional fortitude. But it's never an LGBT person's responsibility to explain/educate someone with a question, even if that question is asked very nicely. I hope that explains a little bit and helps you understand why you got the reception you did today. JadePrince, you are a kind person and thanks for explaining this. I am here just to post memes, complain, shittalk Bioware, and sometimes talk about romance in ME:A.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 8:15:27 GMT
I think Jaal's gogurt is a thing on andromeda's black market. Is that the same Glitter I made ages ago? LMAO! Either way! I love it! Steelcan and anyone else who is confused: Some LGBT people are totally cool with answering questions and educating people. Some aren't. This thread has a mix of both kinds. If you ask a personal question that relates to the life experience of LGBT people in a place that isn't specifically set up for that (such as this thread, which is about discussing video game romance-- with an incidental lean toward frustrated LGBT people commiserating with eachother and their allies), you have to expect to get mixed reactions. That's... that's just how people work. Some of us will be cool and nice and answer you as helpfully as we can, and some of us are going to be tired and frustrated with having to explain basic LGBT terminology that is easily google-able. And some people (like me, for instance) will feel differently on different days depending on our current level of stamina and/or patience and/or emotional fortitude. But it's never an LGBT person's responsibility to explain/educate someone with a question, even if that question is asked very nicely. I hope that explains a little bit and helps you understand why you got the reception you did today. JadePrince , you are a kind person and thanks for explaining this. I am here just to post memes, complain, shittalk Bioware, and sometimes talk about romance in ME:A. I just come here to like posts and quote you apparently. I was originally going to do a BansheeOwnage lvl multiquote but most of the conversation left me:
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Post by Dirk on Jun 6, 2017 8:19:59 GMT
Is that the same Glitter I made ages ago? LMAO! Either way! I love it! JadePrince , you are a kind person and thanks for explaining this. I am here just to post memes, complain, shittalk Bioware, and sometimes talk about romance in ME:A. I just come here to like posts and quote you apparently. I was originally going to do a BansheeOwnage lvl multiquote but most of the conversation left me: oh yeah it's your glitter text. See, I recycle them for future use.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 8:41:09 GMT
Is that the same Glitter I made ages ago? LMAO! Either way! I love it! I just come here to like posts and quote you apparently. I was originally going to do a BansheeOwnage lvl multiquote but most of the conversation left me: oh yeah it's your glitter text. See, I recycle them for future use. OMG, that's so awesome! You make the world a better place. So green! Actually more purple and Sparkly-but I like the specifics!
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