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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 20, 2017 12:39:11 GMT
*Shrug* well I hope you get Jaal. I don't really want him, another alien would be cool though. I could go with a buzzcut if he had like a, full face tattoo, piercings, interesting facial hair or something. I'm a bit of a hair-nazi, and it's a thing I look at in dudes. So if you don't have much hair, you gotta have something to make up for it. Sure sure, personality, good story.. but when it comes to the look I mean. Gotta have SOMETHING to spark my interest tbh. Yes, it would be disappointing if he only has a buzzcut but nothing else that's interesting about his face, especially since they've probably spent many time in Liams hair style. But I still have the feeling that Liam might be bisexual. Assuming that Vetra is romanceable, we have three female LI's, compared to two romanceable male companions (I can't imagine Drack as an option). If they made Cora hetero and Vetra lesbian, both straight males and lesbian females would have two options to choose from (since Peebee is bisexual). To give straight females and gay males the same ammount of options, both Liam and Jaal must be bisexual. Of course, it only works if we assume an equal distribution...which isn't necessarily the case. I only really need one human romance and one alien romance for male Ryder, but sadly, both of the speculated ones, I haven't really gotten excited about. Especially if the raunchiness or turned down in m/m scenes while f/m (and f/f?) romances get some nice nude scenes. That's meh. Well, if he has a buzzcut, he has a buzzcut, too bad. It could be good, if this alleged buzzcut dark-skinned latino is like, a super masculine gay dude who is unapologetic about his attraction and love for you, and is the knight in the shining armor gay LI we've been hoping for. Because if the appearance isn't perfect, he can certainly make up for it with being exactly what I want him to be romance-wise! But that's too much to ask for isn't it lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 12:51:40 GMT
Yes, it would be disappointing if he only has a buzzcut but nothing else that's interesting about his face, especially since they've probably spent many time in Liams hair style. But I still have the feeling that Liam might be bisexual. Assuming that Vetra is romanceable, we have three female LI's, compared to two romanceable male companions (I can't imagine Drack as an option). If they made Cora hetero and Vetra lesbian, both straight males and lesbian females would have two options to choose from (since Peebee is bisexual). To give straight females and gay males the same ammount of options, both Liam and Jaal must be bisexual. Of course, it only works if we assume an equal distribution...which isn't necessarily the case. I only really need one human romance and one alien romance for male Ryder, but sadly, both of the speculated ones, I haven't really gotten excited about. Especially if the raunchiness or turned down in m/m scenes while f/m (and f/f?) romances get some nice nude scenes. That's meh. Well, if he has a buzzcut, he has a buzzcut, too bad. It could be good, if this alleged buzzcut dark-skinned latino is like, a super masculine gay dude who is unapologetic about his attraction and love for you, and is the knight in the shining armor gay LI we've been hoping for. Because if the appearance isn't perfect, he can certainly make up for it with being exactly what I want him to be romance-wise! But that's too much to ask for isn't it lol. People said the nudity rating changed to M, so maybe it now includes hotter sex scenes with gay Scott too. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I don't need nudity per se, but I always thought the gay and lesbian sex scenes in Mass Effect 3 were stupid. I mean, they wake up with their shorts/bras on after they had sex together. It doesn't make sense, unless they have a problem to sleep naked together and put their clothes on before they fall to sleep. The problem I have with the latino buzzcut guy is that he resembles Steve, optically. Why not give us something different? It feels like they don't care enough about giving gay guys some innovative looking LI's. But I don't want to jump into conclusions... maybe I'm positively surprised. Personally, I'd prefer an independent, intelligent and confident guy with his own agenda who doesn't always agree with Scotts point of view.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 20, 2017 13:11:17 GMT
I only really need one human romance and one alien romance for male Ryder, but sadly, both of the speculated ones, I haven't really gotten excited about. Especially if the raunchiness or turned down in m/m scenes while f/m (and f/f?) romances get some nice nude scenes. That's meh. Well, if he has a buzzcut, he has a buzzcut, too bad. It could be good, if this alleged buzzcut dark-skinned latino is like, a super masculine gay dude who is unapologetic about his attraction and love for you, and is the knight in the shining armor gay LI we've been hoping for. Because if the appearance isn't perfect, he can certainly make up for it with being exactly what I want him to be romance-wise! But that's too much to ask for isn't it lol. People said the nudity rating changed to M, so maybe it now includes hotter sex scenes with gay Scott too. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I don't need nudity per se, but I always thought the gay and lesbian sex scenes in Mass Effect 3 were stupid. I mean, they wake up with their shorts/bras on after they had sex together. It doesn't make sense, unless they have a problem to sleep naked together and put their clothes on before they fall to sleep. The problem I have with the latino buzzcut guy is that he resembles Steve, optically. Why not give us something different? It feels like they don't care enough about giving gay guys some innovative looking LI's. But I don't want to jump into conclusions... maybe I'm positively surprised. Personally, I'd prefer an independent, intelligent and confident guy with his own agenda who doesn't always agree with Scotts point of view. Hopefully BW has learned how blankets/sheets work. Literally just put two dudes in bed, cuddling under a blanket, with their upper body nude and call it a damn day. That's all I need tbh. It's not that I want nudity, I just want equality, brooooooo. Yeah, not very interested in the dude pictured by the leak. I just want a huge macho dude who wants to pin me down and never let go!
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Post by Kian on Feb 20, 2017 14:57:47 GMT
*snip* With regard to Dorian, I think most of the complaints folks had towards him was more so his stereotypical "I'm gay and my conservative parents don't understand me" story. Had David Gaider actually taken the time to do something more subtle, original, and not so cliche, I don't think many would have taken issue with Dorian's character. I actually thought Dorian's character was really well-written in the Trespasser DLC. People like that will find a reason to complain no matter what. They found reason to complain (reasons relating to him being gay) about Arcade Gannon. And it's difficult to hide a gay character better than that one lol. The only way some people would not complain about a gay character is if he (or she to a lesser extent) is their ideal type of gay character, the non-existant-gay.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 20, 2017 15:01:25 GMT
go ahead and refute what anyone else is saying Yeah I will, as you and the rest of the clique do. In the end, I'm not gonna be the one blindsided if it turns out Jaal is not a romance at all and/or Reyes is on screen for 5 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:01:45 GMT
*snip* With regard to Dorian, I think most of the complaints folks had towards him was more so his stereotypical "I'm gay and my conservative parents don't understand me" story. Had David Gaider actually taken the time to do something more subtle, original, and not so cliche, I don't think many would have taken issue with Dorian's character. I actually thought Dorian's character was really well-written in the Trespasser DLC. People like that will find a reason to complain no matter what. They found reason to complain (reasons relating to him being gay) about Arcade Gannon. And it's difficult to hide a gay character better than that one lol. The only way some people would not complain about a gay character is if he (or she to a lesser extent) is their ideal type of gay character, the non-existant-gay. Cortez lacked stereotype imo.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 20, 2017 15:06:37 GMT
go ahead and refute what anyone else is saying Yeah I will, as you and the rest of the clique do. In the end, I'm not gonna be the one blindsided if it turns out Jaal is not a romance at all and/or Reyes is on screen for 5 seconds. I mean, I've said repeatedly that I doubt that Jaal will be an option for M!Ryder. We don't know much about Reyes, but I doubt he'll just "show up on screen for 5 seconds" considering he has his own writer. But, really, come on, guys. Alenko, I think you can try to be a little more civil.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 20, 2017 15:11:56 GMT
I only really need one human romance and one alien romance for male Ryder, but sadly, both of the speculated ones, I haven't really gotten excited about. Especially if the raunchiness or turned down in m/m scenes while f/m (and f/f?) romances get some nice nude scenes. That's meh. Well, if he has a buzzcut, he has a buzzcut, too bad. It could be good, if this alleged buzzcut dark-skinned latino is like, a super masculine gay dude who is unapologetic about his attraction and love for you, and is the knight in the shining armor gay LI we've been hoping for. Because if the appearance isn't perfect, he can certainly make up for it with being exactly what I want him to be romance-wise! But that's too much to ask for isn't it lol. People said the nudity rating changed to M, so maybe it now includes hotter sex scenes with gay Scott too. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I don't need nudity per se, but I always thought the gay and lesbian sex scenes in Mass Effect 3 were stupid. I mean, they wake up with their shorts/bras on after they had sex together. It doesn't make sense, unless they have a problem to sleep naked together and put their clothes on before they fall to sleep. The problem I have with the latino buzzcut guy is that he resembles Steve, optically. Why not give us something different? It feels like they don't care enough about giving gay guys some innovative looking LI's. But I don't want to jump into conclusions... maybe I'm positively surprised. Personally, I'd prefer an independent, intelligent and confident guy with his own agenda who doesn't always agree with Scotts point of view. I just feel it's important to be reminded that we don't know who the buzzcut guy actually is. He could be a light romance. Also, even if he is one of the main romances, we know that they've changed hairstyles for their characters before (I think Cora initially had a different hairstyle because they had to update her icon) so it's entirely possible they changed out the buzzcut, too. I think we just don't have enough info right now to feel like they aren't caring enough to give gay LI's some cool looks. Edit: ..Aaand I just realized you said you don't want to jump to conclusions so my argument is moot. Ah, fuckit, I'll let my post stand.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 20, 2017 15:13:18 GMT
But, really, come on, guys. Alenko, I think you can try to be a little more civil. As civil as others are towards me. If they're saying "bullshit" and how "salty" I am then I'm gonna respond appropirately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:13:26 GMT
People said the nudity rating changed to M, so maybe it now includes hotter sex scenes with gay Scott too. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I don't need nudity per se, but I always thought the gay and lesbian sex scenes in Mass Effect 3 were stupid. I mean, they wake up with their shorts/bras on after they had sex together. It doesn't make sense, unless they have a problem to sleep naked together and put their clothes on before they fall to sleep. The problem I have with the latino buzzcut guy is that he resembles Steve, optically. Why not give us something different? It feels like they don't care enough about giving gay guys some innovative looking LI's. But I don't want to jump into conclusions... maybe I'm positively surprised. Personally, I'd prefer an independent, intelligent and confident guy with his own agenda who doesn't always agree with Scotts point of view. I just feel it's important to be reminded that we don't know who the buzzcut guy actually is. He could be a light romance. Also, even if he is one of the main romances, we know that they've changed hairstyles for their characters before (I think Cora initially had a different hairstyle because they had to update her icon) so it's entirely possible they changed out the buzzcut, too. I think we just don't have enough info right now to feel like they aren't caring enough to give gay LI's some cool looks. Yes, that's why I said before, that I hope his buzzcut is only a placeholder.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 20, 2017 15:15:49 GMT
I just feel it's important to be reminded that we don't know who the buzzcut guy actually is. He could be a light romance. Also, even if he is one of the main romances, we know that they've changed hairstyles for their characters before (I think Cora initially had a different hairstyle because they had to update her icon) so it's entirely possible they changed out the buzzcut, too. I think we just don't have enough info right now to feel like they aren't caring enough to give gay LI's some cool looks. Yes, that's why I said, I hope his buzzcut is only a placeholder, before. Yeah, sorry, I clearly need more coffee. My reading comprehension is fail.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:20:32 GMT
Yes, that's why I said, I hope his buzzcut is only a placeholder, before. Yeah, sorry, I clearly need more coffee. My reading comprehension is fail. No problem. I am really afraid that I will not find him attractive in the end. But I hope, of course, that I am wrong and Bioware positively surprises me. If the dark skinned man from the promo was Liam first, they had changed him quite a bit during the development process. Perhaps this is true for the buzzcut guy as well.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 20, 2017 15:20:53 GMT
We really, really, really need some new info.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:21:55 GMT
Any leaked info could have changed and just as recent as a few days ago devs were still changing things, so I would not heed any leak at all anymore and wait for official confirmations.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 20, 2017 15:28:58 GMT
Any leaked info could have changed and just as recent as a few days ago devs were still changing things, so I would not heed any leak at all anymore and wait for official confirmations. Agreed. Unless said leaked info is something like actual video content of their early access playthrough that they posted on youtube, of course.
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Post by Sarayne on Feb 20, 2017 16:37:55 GMT
I for one can't wait for ea early access so this madness can end. I just want confirmations on who and what fem ryder can bang.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 16:48:13 GMT
I for one can't wait for ea early access so this madness can end. I just want confirmations on who and what fem ryder can bang. Not including The Archon lol, I'm gonna go with her squad that was announced with her toy and let the game prove me right or wrong.
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Post by hellionrex on Feb 20, 2017 18:12:42 GMT
But I like the buzzcut look....
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Post by hellionrex on Feb 20, 2017 18:14:50 GMT
People like that will find a reason to complain no matter what. They found reason to complain (reasons relating to him being gay) about Arcade Gannon. And it's difficult to hide a gay character better than that one lol. The only way some people would not complain about a gay character is if he (or she to a lesser extent) is their ideal type of gay character, the non-existant-gay. Cortez lacked stereotype imo. I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but maybe the tragic past trope or something along those lines? I honestly didn't have a problem with his backstory, I just prefered Kaidan tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 18:15:41 GMT
Cortez lacked stereotype imo. I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but maybe the tragic past trope or something along those lines? I honestly didn't have a problem with his backstory, I just prefered Kaidan tbh. I don't know, but as a straight female I can say my men all had tragic pasts and seriously enough is enough with that lol
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Post by hellionrex on Feb 20, 2017 18:23:51 GMT
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but maybe the tragic past trope or something along those lines? I honestly didn't have a problem with his backstory, I just prefered Kaidan tbh. seriously enough is enough with that lol I think we can all drink to that lol
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Post by danaduchy on Feb 20, 2017 18:24:14 GMT
Cortez lacked stereotype imo. I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but maybe the tragic past trope or something along those lines? I honestly didn't have a problem with his backstory, I just prefered Kaidan tbh. Cortez romance was a bit too fast for me. If he was on the team since ME2 and then became romanceable in ME3, I would've liked his story better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 18:25:54 GMT
He would have been better without his emotional outburst in public and his dead husband background.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 20, 2017 18:26:53 GMT
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but maybe the tragic past trope or something along those lines? I honestly didn't have a problem with his backstory, I just prefered Kaidan tbh. I don't know, but as a straight female I can say my men all had tragic pasts and seriously enough is enough with that lol Mhmm. I think we can all do for some more variety on character-types available to each orientation.
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Post by Foelhe on Feb 20, 2017 18:29:42 GMT
I had issues with Cortez for the same reason I had issues Dorian, though not on the same level. (Eventually we'll get a gay guy on the team whose personal mission doesn't boil down to pity-me-pity-me-pity-me-pity-me.) I wouldn't say he was a bad character, though, and if there was a backlash against him I don't remember it. He's not universally loved, but what character is?
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