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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 29, 2017 0:48:33 GMT
Quick rundown, a couple years ago, I bought ME1 and the ME2 Digital Deluxe on a Steam sale. Never really gave them a try but I've been thinking about it lately, especially with Andromeda on the horizon maybe sort of starting to pique my interest. I'm trying to figure things out as I get started, though, so I could use a little help if folks can indulge me.
1. I could use a quick rundown of DLC campaigns/characters/spinoffs/etc. I'm a little confused on all this. I've seen a couple references to extra campaigns for the first game, but can find hide nor hair of them in Origin or Steam. Have I heard wrong? Or are they just baked into the game now? Or something else? Same thing with ME2...in the Steam sale, got the "Deluxe" edition, but it looks like on Origin (but not on Steam) there are a few things that are free downloads, but there are several other DLC campaigns, and one for an extra character that need to be purchased separately? Any particularly worth/not worth the time? I suspect the various companion appearance packs are mostly a waste of money, but not sure about the others.
2. I understand that in the first game, some of the leveling options are locked behind having multiple playthroughs? A sort of "New Game+" mode? With a carefully built character, is there anything story-wise that can't be done on a first game? And if my options are limited on a first playthrough, is it, say, possible to download someone else's save, if I wanted to start with the full range of options from the beginning? I don't really enjoy the "evil" path in games and pretty much want to focus on having the most heroic, save-the-day-ish Shepard possible, but I'd like to move from 1 to 2 naturally, not having to play 1 over and over again the same way to get what I want out of the second as well. If that makes any sense.
3. Having looked over the various options, I'm interested in playing a Vanguard character. I like being kinda soldier-y but I'm also hoping to be kind of versatile. And the companions in the first game that seem the most fun - Ashley, Wrex, Tali - all seem like they'd mesh well with that too (yeah, I'm aware that only two can come along at a time). Is that reasonable? And how much carries over from one game to the next? I am vaguely aware that ME2 has an excuse to reset most of the mechanical stuff about my character at the beginning (or is that 3?), so will I necessarily be locked into playing the same "build" for the entire trilogy?
4. Just in general, anything else I should know going into things, or sources of information that would be useful for me getting started?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jan 29, 2017 1:43:25 GMT
1. Only ever played on PS3 console so I don't know how steam or PC DLC is handled.
2.There are no level options locked behind NG+. There are options that are locked depending on your Paragon or Renegade rank. And there are like one or two specialized level depending on your P/R rank. But they are stand alone missions that have no basis on over all story. There is nothing story related that is locked out of unless you do a NG+.
3. Vanguard is a good tank class. I don't think the class truly shines till ME 3. But once on ME3 it is pretty fun to play as. From one game to the next the only things that carry over really are the major choices you make in the game. As well as a level boost from one game to the next. AKA if you are level 60 by the time you beat ME 1 you will start off at level like 10 in ME 2 rather then level 1.
4. With ME 1 your going to want someone with tech skills (Kadian/Garrus/Tali) to help you hack everything since Vanguard class lacks that capability. Explore the planets and search for ore deposits and collectibles like the Matriarch writings. Easy credits for very little effort. Which is needed early in the game. Upgrade your weapons and switch mods as needed. Using a mod that increase damage to organic while facing Geth is not a smart idea.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 29, 2017 2:01:57 GMT
Appreciate the insights! A few followups: 2. I'm planning, as noted in the first post to pretty much stick to the Paragon path. Is that viable from a gameplay perspective? And how carefully do I have to worry about leveling persuasion-related stuff if I'm a first-time player?
3. Regarding story choices carrying over, what does it mean for romances? Can you romance one person in the first game and then a different person in the second? Will you have to break up with the person from the first game before you can switch? Or do they not even carry over?
3/4. This is good to know, from the descriptions Vanguard sounded less tanky and more support-y. Is it viable with the companions I mentioned above (Tali for one based on your comments, and Ashley/Wrex as a third member)? How important is range? I know that in Dragon Age games, for example, playing with more than 1-2 people at close range can get kinda...clustereff-y. Will that be a problem?
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1) There are only two campaign related DLC for ME1: Bring Down the Sky and Pinnacle Station. I'm not sure, but I think Pinnacle Station may no longer be available anywhere (it wasn't that great anyways, so I wouldn't worry about not having it). Bring Down the Sky is very worthwhile. I play on the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, so I'm afraid I don't really know how you go about it on the PC. 2) If the PC Edition plays like the Xbox one, one your first ever playthrough of ME1, you will be capped at Level 50. To get maximum import bonuses into ME2, you will need to do a second playthrough to get that character to Level 60. After that first playthrough, starting a new character will not cap, but you will still not get to Level 60 in one playthrough (Level 57 is about all you can get to in one go). 3) When you import a character, you can change your class completely at that time. So, for example, a ME1 soldier can be a ME2 vanguard. If you reimport your ME1 character back into ME1 (to do an NG+ game to get that character to Level 60), you will not be able to change Shepard's ME1 class or any of the skill points you've assigned in ME1 for Shepard. Your squad, however, will have all there points available for reassignment when you first recruit them. Shepard will have in his/her inventory, the gear that each squad mate was equipped with at the end of the game in addition to the gear he/she was equipped with and had in inventory at the end of that first playthrough (space in the inventory notwithstanding; that is, you may lose a piece or two). Depending on what Level your Shepard is at the end of ME1, you will start at Level 2, 3, or 5 when you import into ME2. You will also get some cash, some mineral resources and some paragon/renegade points. Details are here in the Wiki: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Save_File_Transfer3) ME1 is doable with any of the character classes. Soldier is probably the most intuitive for people used to shooters. At this stage though, I'd say if vanguard looks the most interesting to you... go for it. 4) As mentioned about you will want to have make sure to have someone with Decryptions and Electronics with you at all times since these are the skills that enable you to hack into crates, which is how you get better gear. Kaidan, Garrus and Tali have both, but keep in mind that you have to put skills points into them before you can use them. Liara has electronics, but not decryption; and Wrex and Ashley have neither (they are your tanks and Wrex is a biotic). There is some very good build advice on the Character Builds sections of these forums. Also, if you don't mind spoilers, you can find lots of good information in the Wiki.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2017 2:32:15 GMT
Yes, you can stick to the Paragon path, though it can honestly be fun to do some of the Renegade options. Never played full-on Renegade. Don't have it in me. You can level of skills called Charm and Intimidate. I think you know which one will suit you best based on your plan to play Paragon. I'm guessing you're playing a male Shepard. You have two romance options in ME1. You can romance different people in ME2 (three new options + some light romance options) or remain faithful to the person from ME1. In ME3, which you don't have, there isn't much in the way of new romance options. You can resume one from ME1 or ME2. The one new romance you can have (if you didn't already have it) is one of the two from ME1. I'm being vague because I don't want to spoil things. For DLC, I'd get Arrival and Lair of the Shadow Broker. Some of it depends on whether or not you decide to purchase ME3. I like the Kasumi: Stolen Memory but it's not important. Overlord is also good but not important. I'd get Normandy Crash Site, which I believe is free. Cerberus Network is required but it's about access to the game rather than game play. Firewalker is my least favorite and, as far as I know, adds nothing to ME3. There are DLC for ME1. They aren't available on Steam and even with Origin I think you can only get them if you buy the ME Trilogy through Origin. It's simply included. There's a way to get Bring Down the Sky (a short DLC but kind of cool) for free. It was made free by BioWare but they don't make it easy to get. Here's a link to a page where you can download it. It factors in to ME3 but if you never play that it's irrelevant.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2017 2:34:47 GMT
1) There are only two campaign related DLC for ME1: Bring Down the Sky and Pinnacle Station. I'm not sure, but I think Pinnacle Station may no longer be available anywhere (it wasn't that great anyways, so I wouldn't worry about not having it). Bring Down the Sky is very worthwhile. I play on the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, so I'm afraid I don't really know how you go about it on the PC. It's only available bundled with the entire Trilogy through Origin.
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Appreciate the insights! A few followups: 2. I'm planning, as noted in the first post to pretty much stick to the Paragon path. Is that viable from a gameplay perspective? And how carefully do I have to worry about leveling persuasion-related stuff if I'm a first-time player? 3. Regarding story choices carrying over, what does it mean for romances? Can you romance one person in the first game and then a different person in the second? Will you have to break up with the person from the first game before you can switch? Or do they not even carry over? 3/4. This is good to know, from the descriptions Vanguard sounded less tanky and more support-y. Is it viable with the companions I mentioned above (Tali for one based on your comments, and Ashley/Wrex as a third member)? How important is range? I know that in Dragon Age games, for example, playing with more than 1-2 people at close range can get kinda...clustereff-y. Will that be a problem? 2. In ME1, using paragon responses will unlock point slots in the Charm section of your skill tree and give you 4 free points in that area. To pass the hardest check later on in the game, you will also want to assign 8 of your skill points into Charm. If you go the Renegade path, you can get away with assigning 6 points manually into Intimidate (leaving you 2 points to put somewhere else); but it's really not a big deal unless you're playing on Insanity... and you won't be because Insanity is another thing that opens up only after you've beaten the game once. 3. Depends on who you romance. If you romance either Kaidan (as a female Shepard) or Ashley (as a male Shepard), you will not be able to romance them in ME2, but can romance them again in ME3 (can't say much more without spoiling the plot). Liara (who goes with either gender) can be romanced in ME2... but only if you have the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC. She can also be romanced again in ME3. 4. For you first playthrough of ME1, I would suggest you recruit everyone and switch your squad around a bit to get a feel for their various abilities so that you'll know which is the strongest squad for your play style when you go into the end game battle(s). That said, there are achievements that do unlock when you stick with one squad for pretty much the entire game. I didn't unlock these on my first playthrough, but on 3 subsequent playthroughs, but if you really want to stick with one squad... Tali and either Ashley or Wrex work just fine.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jan 29, 2017 2:44:24 GMT
Appreciate the insights! A few followups: 2. I'm planning, as noted in the first post to pretty much stick to the Paragon path. Is that viable from a gameplay perspective? And how carefully do I have to worry about leveling persuasion-related stuff if I'm a first-time player? 3. Regarding story choices carrying over, what does it mean for romances? Can you romance one person in the first game and then a different person in the second? Will you have to break up with the person from the first game before you can switch? Or do they not even carry over? 3/4. This is good to know, from the descriptions Vanguard sounded less tanky and more support-y. Is it viable with the companions I mentioned above (Tali for one based on your comments, and Ashley/Wrex as a third member)? How important is range? I know that in Dragon Age games, for example, playing with more than 1-2 people at close range can get kinda...clustereff-y. Will that be a problem? Both Paragon and Renegade are viable from a game play perspective. Being Renegade only really decrease your total options but doesn't make the game unnecessarily more difficult then Paragon. And Paragon generally increases your total options but doesn't make the game much easier then a Renegade play thought. As for level up persuasions related stuff in ME 1 I would say fairly important. Virmire is the mission that having a high paragon or renegade level actually matters. At least to me. Other instances you might miss out on some dialogue or bonuses (extra credits/items/skipping a fight) but don't actually change the over all story line. Though the impact of those different dialogue options is personal opinion. You can carry romances over from one game to the next. That being said not all the characters you can romance in ME 1 show up in ME2. And not all characters in ME 2 show up for extended periods in ME 3. That being said you can keep the romace going across all 3 (or 2 games with ME 2 characters) regardless of how much they show up. AKA you can romance Ashley in ME 1 then continue the romance in ME 2 even though she isn't a big player in it. Then pick it back up in ME 3. Or you can romance her in ME 1, switch to another romance in ME 2 then break up with ME 2 romance and back with Ashley for ME 3. Liara is the only character you can consistently (with Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC) romance across all 3 games. Depends on what difficulty level you are going on and what experience you have with the game and your play style. Others have had luck with that set up. Tali will be particularly useful in Geth moments. I personally use Garrus/Wrex for my set up. When you level up your entire squad levels up. So it isn't like Wrex/Garrus will be level 30 and Tali will be level 1. Just keep an eye out for better armor for everyone and upgrade everyone's weapons when you have extras and you can play around with different set ups to find what works for you. With Vanguard and it's shot gun close range is actually a bit better for you to be in. It isn't till late game you actually get a pistol worth using. Vanguard is suppose to be about getting in the enemy's face and going all out so it has abilities like barrier which increases your ability to take damage.
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Appreciate the insights! A few followups: 2. I'm planning, as noted in the first post to pretty much stick to the Paragon path. Is that viable from a gameplay perspective? And how carefully do I have to worry about leveling persuasion-related stuff if I'm a first-time player? 3. Regarding story choices carrying over, what does it mean for romances? Can you romance one person in the first game and then a different person in the second? Will you have to break up with the person from the first game before you can switch? Or do they not even carry over? 3/4. This is good to know, from the descriptions Vanguard sounded less tanky and more support-y. Is it viable with the companions I mentioned above (Tali for one based on your comments, and Ashley/Wrex as a third member)? How important is range? I know that in Dragon Age games, for example, playing with more than 1-2 people at close range can get kinda...clustereff-y. Will that be a problem? Both Paragon and Renegade are viable from a game play perspective. Being Renegade only really decrease your total options but doesn't make the game unnecessarily more difficult then Paragon. And Paragon generally increases your total options but doesn't make the game much easier then a Renegade play thought. As for level up persuasions related stuff in ME 1 I would say fairly important. Virmire is the mission that having a high paragon or renegade level actually matters. At least to me. Other instances you might miss out on some dialogue or bonuses (extra credits/items/skipping a fight) but don't actually change the over all story line. Though the impact of those different dialogue options is personal opinion. You can carry romances over from one game to the next. That being said not all the characters you can romance in ME 1 show up in ME2. And not all characters in ME 2 show up for extended periods in ME 3. That being said you can keep the romace going across all 3 (or 2 games with ME 2 characters) regardless of how much they show up. AKA you can romance Ashley in ME 1 then continue the romance in ME 2 even though she isn't a big player in it. Then pick it back up in ME 3. Or you can romance her in ME 1, switch to another romance in ME 2 then break up with ME 2 romance and back with Ashley for ME 3. Liara is the only character you can consistently (with Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC) romance across all 3 games. Depends on what difficulty level you are going on and what experience you have with the game and your play style. Others have had luck with that set up. Tali will be particularly useful in Geth moments. I personally use Garrus/Wrex for my set up. When you level up your entire squad levels up. So it isn't like Wrex/Garrus will be level 30 and Tali will be level 1. Just keep an eye out for better armor for everyone and upgrade everyone's weapons when you have extras and you can play around with different set ups to find what works for you. With Vanguard and it's shot gun close range is actually a bit better for you to be in. It isn't till late game you actually get a pistol worth using. Vanguard is suppose to be about getting in the enemy's face and going all out so it has abilities like barrier which increases your ability to take damage. I'm going to clarify my previous post... You cannot physically romance your ME1 LI in ME2... You can, however, stay faithful to them by not romancing any of the ME2 characters. This does have some impacts in how the romance may play out in ME3.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2017 3:47:25 GMT
If you plan on only one playthrough before MEA, I would do as much as possible. In ME1, get the Bring Down the Sky dlc. Good dlc. The pinnacle dlc I never played since its not available for the ps3, plus a few folks have told me its not worth it. Romance whoever you want In ME2, recruit everyone. Get the dlc that has Kasumi and Zaeed. Do everyone's loyalty mission. The one dlc, which also has one of the best scenes in the trilogy, according to themikefest, is Arrival. The other dlc's you can get. You can romance whoever you want or stay with who you romanced in ME1. In ME3, do everything that can be done. Get the dlc's. They add stuff. Play the From Ashes dlc ASAP to get the most from it. You can even romance a new character if you want or stay with the one from ME2 or go back to the one from ME1. At the end, make your choice When you start your playthrough, you can post it in this thread if you like
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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 29, 2017 22:13:53 GMT
So many helpful tips, bits of clarification, and stuff to consider! I really appreciate the responses, guys! I told myself I was gonna finish up my current run of DAI before starting, but dang my appetite has been whetted. Only point of disappointment is that the link to Bring Down the Sky above doesn't seem to work anymore, maybe from when they brought down the official BSN site? Makes me sad. I'll just have to find a video of that one somewhere I guess. Regardless, though, y'all are superb for helping out.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jan 30, 2017 0:50:46 GMT
So many helpful tips, bits of clarification, and stuff to consider! I really appreciate the responses, guys! I told myself I was gonna finish up my current run of DAI before starting, but dang my appetite has been whetted. Only point of disappointment is that the link to Bring Down the Sky above doesn't seem to work anymore, maybe from when they brought down the official BSN site? Makes me sad. I'll just have to find a video of that one somewhere I guess. Regardless, though, y'all are superb for helping out. This one's working for me answers.ea.com/t5/Mass-Effect-1/MASS-EFFECT-BRING-DOWN-THE-SKY-for-free-NO-KEY-NEEDED/td-p/258814Scroll down to the second post
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jan 30, 2017 1:03:36 GMT
And about DLCs, I reccomend getting Bring down the Sky, since it's free(lol)
(Hope I'm not too late, but here it is my opinion)
For ME2, all of them. -Arrival ties into ME3 -Lair of the Shadow Broker is an excellent oportunity for players who have romanced Liara previously and also offer fun dialogues, references from ME1 and a good boss fight. -Companions DLCs are worth getting. You just need Kasumi, since Zaeed's Pack comes with the game -Firewalker Pack: If you're worried on continuity, complete the first mission and forget the rest of the DLC. You gain a vehicle that is used later in the Overlord DLC(The vehicle still shows in Overlord even if you didn't complete the first mission of Firewalker) It isn't worth the effort, but it's free -Overlord DLC: A fenomenal ending for a DLC. The story is the best DLC in ME2, IMO.
There are the Appearences Pack and the weapons pack as well, but you can skip those. (Sometimes, the DLCs guns become OP if you're playing on Normal or Veteran)
Mass Effect 3:
Leviathan DLC: offers more insight on the Reapers. Citadel DLC: A reunion with old friends. If you got hooked on the ME Trilogy, you should buy it. Not for the story or the combat, but for one last goodbye to your friends/crew members. You should play it after the point of no return (you should know when you reach it) Omega DLC: Completely skippable. Fun with Aria and a FemTurian on the streets of Omega, but nothing much, except some two new enemies. From Ashes: Companion DLC. Totally worth it. (do it as soon as you get the mission, since new companion=New dialogue) Extended Cut is free and offers clarification on the endings.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 5, 2017 2:09:12 GMT
Hmm, tried the new DLC link installed in, and then the game locked me out without having a code (tried the ones at the link, no dice). Probably best just to give up on that for now, I guess.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 8, 2017 6:02:07 GMT
Can a Steam copy be registered on Origin? That would take care of the DLC issue.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 9, 2017 1:20:07 GMT
Can a Steam copy be registered on Origin? That would take care of the DLC issue. Yes, but Origin doesn't make ME1 dlc available unless you buy the trilogy bundle through them. As someone who has all ME dlc, I'd personally advise finding the dlc for ME1 online somewhere and then download and install it. Bring Down the Sky is great but Pinnacle is entirely unnecessary. I've only actually done Pinnacle once.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 9, 2017 2:53:00 GMT
Really? That's surprising. When I registered my ME1 disc, the DLCs attached right away. .
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 9, 2017 3:11:16 GMT
Really? That's surprising. When I registered my ME1 disc, the DLCs attached right away. . Maybe with the disc but not purchasing online. In fact, even though I have those two dlc, if I look on Origin is says there are no mods available for ME1.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 9, 2017 6:17:04 GMT
That doesn't prove much since they don't show as DLCs. They're just part of the base game files now.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 9, 2017 22:58:41 GMT
My digital copy was purchased through Steam but I play it through Origin (I actually like the interface on Origin a little bit better...I know, I know, I'm a heretic, right?), but hmmm, so sounds like it's maybe installed already. Guess I'll find out. Anyone have recommendations on game controls? Shooters are not typically my forte, and I was hoping ME would be RPG-ish enough not to be too bad. Still, I'm getting my butt whupped, even on the first mission. Anyone have any keybind setups they find work particularly well? Or, for that matter, would it maybe be easier to play if I download a mod that enables controller support (seen a few of those)?
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 10, 2017 2:49:18 GMT
You might have to DL through Origin to get the DLCs.
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Post by princessdemeter on Feb 10, 2017 7:14:25 GMT
For anybody still trying to get the DLC, go to the the site I posted earlier. It has nearly every single piece of dlc for the first two Mass Effect and Dragon Age games. The only things that don't seem to be included are preorder bonuses and the like. All you need is to have the Cerberus Network activated for some of the ME2 files. The dlc downloads are all .exe files and registering with Origin should not be necessary at all. I can download any of them without even logging in. And yes, it's 100% legitimate, posted by EA themselves on their own support page. Quoted directly from the page: Check here if you need to re-download your DLC for classic Mass Effect and Dragon Age games. If you’re using Origin, download your downloadable content (DLC) by clicking on the game tile in your Game Library and choosing Extra Content. Then choose your DLC and click Download.If you installed your game through Origin, you should always update your game and download your extra content through Origin. If you purchased a digital copy of Mass Effect through Origin, all DLC is included in the game, without any need for additional purchases or download. This includes Bring down the Sky and Pinnacle Station. Using these links with a game installed through Origin can cause conflicts, and may cause you to have to reinstall your game and your DLC. If you installed your game through Steam or using a game disc, find your game in the list below and work through the links to download and install your DLC.
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