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Post by Cypher on Jan 30, 2017 5:21:35 GMT
Something happens to Alec, Cora goes MIA, sibling injured, playable Ryder gets promoted, and then later we get Cora back and it's too late to recall the promotion because playable Ryder already proved that they can handle the role.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2017 5:31:08 GMT
Part of me thinks Cora will have to take on some unexpected other duties. Maybe the fact that Sloane has defected makes an impact in some way that forces her into a role that maybe Sloane would have filled.
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Post by LuckyFatCat on Jan 30, 2017 5:50:47 GMT
I don't think Old Man Ryder is going to keel over on us too soon...he was shown quite a bit before getting up to things in earlier trailers/teasers. Unless that's Our Ryder just wearing the signature Black-Red outfit to throw us off. Anyhow, I think...that perhaps that Scourge (is that what was decided to call it?) that is weaving around the planet in Trailer 2, can also in some fashion inhabit/control/infect(?) biological beings (IE: human)...Old Man Ryder at the end of trailer, his helmet/visor is reflecting what appears to be the Scourge... But watching the video closely we can see that he's breathing, and the reflection doesn't move like it should, it acts as if it's ON or INSIDE the visor. Perhaps that's why Archon figures out what makes us special...through the Scourge inhabiting Dad, and learning about SAM and all that wonderful jazz. Which takes him out of the Pathfinder's seat...though I don't know where to go from there about Cora....other than maybe she steps down after dropping the ball on an assignment? BUT....maybe the reflection on the visor is just that...and the slight movement of the breathing doesn't warrant enough change in the reflection itself...or it's just a mistake or somesuch.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Jan 30, 2017 6:57:33 GMT
I'm guessing dad goes MIA. Cora gets knocked unconscious and while she's out the Initative promotes Ryder temporarily. He/she does a good enough job to be given the role full time.
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 30, 2017 10:05:04 GMT
I'm assuming Daddy will get other responsibilities given the mutiny that happened while they were dealing with issues and Ryder gets promoted after showing a knack for leading. Could be Cora does lead for a short time but gets them into trouble and Ryder gets them out of it. Yeah, after all in Dragon Age: Inquisition we weren't always the one in charge. In the beginning Cassandra and the advisers Cullen, Josephine, and Leliana were. After a certain point in the game however we proved ourselves and they make us the Inquisitor. I can see the first arc of the game doing that with Cora being in charge, and then we officially become the Pathfinder. you are never in charge in DA I at all thats Bioware's biggest lie about that game
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 30, 2017 10:05:55 GMT
Part of me thinks Cora will have to take on some unexpected other duties. Maybe the fact that Sloane has defected makes an impact in some way that forces her into a role that maybe Sloane would have filled. thats stupid when she is part of the team and will be a squadmate
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Post by Ahriman on Jan 30, 2017 10:23:53 GMT
Something happens to Alec, Cora goes MIA, sibling injured, playable Ryder gets promoted, and then later we get Cora back and it's too late to recall the promotion because playable Ryder already proved that they can handle the role. Exactly what I expect to happen. First mission has only Liam as squadmate for a reason. I hope Cora won't go through this "character development" arc, where she gets grumpy because LilRyder stole her job, but one mission later she realizes how awesome Ryder is.
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Post by jasonpogo on Jan 30, 2017 10:40:55 GMT
Actual reason: Because playing as someone in their 50s is still unpalatable to most players. Game reason: Something bad happens with father + that AI implant plays some role in Pathfinder selection. The older protagonist didn't seem to be a problem in The Last of Us. But yeah Joel was his own character and games are still afraid to let a choice based game get an older protagonist.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 30, 2017 10:41:07 GMT
I could be wrong but judging from the trailers and the last briefing, I'd say that Cora and Alec won't be with our Ryder at the start of the game. Something will happen to the Hyperion once in Andromeda and Alec's team (with Cora) will be somewhere else fighting their way against whatever enemy is attacking us. From there, we will lose every contact with them. It could be Alec's team in the first trailer: This is when our Ryder could be assigned as Pathfinder. We know that the others inside of our Ark will still be asleep, so Ryder is their only option if Cora and Alec are "gone". I guess we will find Cora somewhere in some planet but Alec won't be with her. There was something said in some article or other, that Dad has the kids touch a rock before going off to battle. So he will be with them at least for a time. I'm guessing the rock is a chunk of Earth to remind them what they're looking for. Even though the kids seem to have been raised on the Citadel.
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Post by lastpawn on Jan 30, 2017 10:46:12 GMT
Actual reason: Because playing as someone in their 50s is still unpalatable to most players. Game reason: Something bad happens with father + that AI implant plays some role in Pathfinder selection. The older protagonist didn't seem to be a problem in The Last of Us. But yeah Joel was his own character and games are still afraid to let a choice based game get an older protagonist. Yeah, Joel was unusual in that sense, being late 40s early 50s. It was a father/daughter sort of story -- if it was just "Joel and the Apocalypse" I'm pretty sure he'd be a savvy 20-some-year-old. Shepard was quite unusual in being a hero protagonist at 30 or so.
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Post by cymercenary285 on Jan 30, 2017 11:14:03 GMT
Nepotism.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 30, 2017 11:25:23 GMT
Cora is a squadmate in Peebee's recruitment, so I don't think she was hold on to something or unconscious. Beside, I think they stated on twitter that it might have something to do with our family, but I'm not sure. I think it'll be that or something similae with SAM, expecially because even without Cora there's still Liam, so there should be a reason why they picked Ryder regardless.
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Post by kumazan on Jan 30, 2017 11:31:58 GMT
I assume it'll have someting to do with SAM, but other than that I have no clue. We know the Pathfinder's implant works differently from the the rest of the team's, so it could be accidental, or it could be linked with the fact that DadRyder designed it, and was its original "host".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:46:38 GMT
Concise, direct, plausible. I like it.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 30, 2017 16:48:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 16:52:18 GMT
It's a family run business, obviously. V. quaint.
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Post by Italian_Pathfinder on Jan 30, 2017 16:57:22 GMT
There was something said in some article or other, that Dad has the kids touch a rock before going off to battle. So he will be with them at least for a time. I'm guessing the rock is a chunk of Earth to remind them what they're looking for. Even though the kids seem to have been raised on the Citadel. I completely forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me. By any chance do you remember the article?
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Jan 30, 2017 17:21:09 GMT
So we know know from the last Andromeda Initiative briefing that Cora Harper is and was Alec Ryder's second in command and was slated to become the new Pathfinder if anything were to happen to Alec. So why then would one of the very young and untested Ryder twins be placed in the shoes of their father? Is it simply going to have to do with SAM? The briefing says all members of the Pathfinder team have a direct link to SAM. But will being the biological children of Alec give them a stronger link? Or will it be some other reason altogether? I'd love to hear some speculation. That genetic link thing makes no sense at all. Why make Harper your second in command at all then if they can't have full access to SAM? Surely this would have all been arranged prior to launch. I would think due to a rebellion on the nexus (which is likely given the comic book) that Alex Ryder is no longer able to fulfill his duties as pathfinder. As one of the main leaders of the expedition, he has to be reassigned to the nexus, possibly on the council or something equally important. I mean, also why else would the head of nexus security, sloane kelly be running some random 'humble' outpost in the helios cluster unless she was involved in a rebellion against the council. I think the same reason Sloane Kelly is no longer nexus security is the reason Alec Ryder is no longer the pathfinder. One of the reasons for the rebellion might be that one the the ARKs (or more) that was required to power the nexus upon entry into andromeda has gone missing and people are panicking, or believed it was sabotage (remember pre-ME3, the races didn't all trust one another). Or the council i.e. Jin, made a wrong decision about something in andromeda and the council was split leading to a rebellion on the nexus. Therefore, Alex Ryder appoints his son/daughter as pathfinder under the guidance of Harper. This makes far more sense than everyone elses theories. Since Harper was present when they discover the first vault at the beginning of the game, she probably wasn't MIA or uncouncious as people suggest .
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 30, 2017 17:42:59 GMT
It's probably all gonna hinge on that scene of Alec touching the artifact.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 17:48:34 GMT
Maybe this links in to the other theory flying about Cora is the Illusive Man's daughter/related in some way Maybe someone high up in the Initiative finds out and decides she can't be trusted? Maybe it's also why Alec goes MIA. Or maybe not....
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Post by cymercenary285 on Jan 30, 2017 17:59:11 GMT
Concise, direct, plausible. I like it. That's how I roll. :-P
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Post by Vall on Jan 30, 2017 18:14:00 GMT
Actual reason: Because playing as someone in their 50s is still unpalatable to most players.
Game reason: Something bad happens with father + that AI implant plays some role in Pathfinder selection. Does the name "Geralt of Rivia" tell you anything? I hear he is quite popular But in all seriousness, I don't dislike playing an older character, however if I have a choice I prefer either young protagonist or one with ambiguous age. on topic: why do I think we become pathfinder? I hope we have to prove ourselves, being special is starting to be tiresome
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 31, 2017 1:49:21 GMT
There was something said in some article or other, that Dad has the kids touch a rock before going off to battle. So he will be with them at least for a time. I'm guessing the rock is a chunk of Earth to remind them what they're looking for. Even though the kids seem to have been raised on the Citadel. I completely forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me. By any chance do you remember the article? I'm not 100% positive, but it may have been from that massive Game Informer article. I will dig around a bit to see if I can find it.
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Post by ravenous on Jan 31, 2017 2:50:54 GMT
Cora is a squadmate and a romance option for Scott, so no she will not be going missing. Alec on the other hand I am guessing he goes missing, if he does go missing though I don't know if we will end up finding him again later on
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Post by Nightlife on Jan 31, 2017 2:56:11 GMT
If Alec Ryder dies quickly, then we don't care about it since we just met him. My guess is he dies after a series of "training" type intro missions. Think of being with Anderson at the beginning on ME3, but a bit longer.
Alec will setup the stakes for the crew (and us the players) and then either die or be kidnapped in maybe like 2-3 hours of gametime. As a player, we need more time with him before we care about his death. Same is true for movies, tv shows, etc.
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