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Post by Duelist on Nov 4, 2017 11:47:36 GMT
Honestly, I'd rather they just tinker with the current roster of Defence heroes before adding more. Junkrat being a bit OP aside (and even then, still pretty niche), the others are either too situational or don't offer enough even in the situations where they could be useful.
Also, a lot of the Defence heroes make for team comps that are shitty to play against.
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Post by Kevlareater on Nov 7, 2017 3:18:16 GMT
From what I've played of Moira on the PTR, she's alright so far. To be succinct, a vampiric healer. She heals others but has a resource meter that slowly fills when depleted, she can damage foes which heals herself and refills her resource meter, and the orb she throws can either heal or damage that has a small AoE. Also has a phase skill that moves her around really fast for about 1/2 second, similar to Reaper's wraith form, but Moira's invisible. Ult is a Kamehameha that heals teammates and hurts enemies in the beam, and bypasses shields. She can move around while the beam is up.
Moira plays very much like an Elder Scrolls mage. One hand heals, the other hurts, but both hands can't be used at the same time. While she's not very mobile and her heal lacks reach, it's quite strong and any ally in its path gets healed. Her damage is also on the weak side, I can understand if this was done on purpose so that she isn't a longer-distance Symmetra. Her damage is static, has a bit of flexibility but nothing like Symm's, so while can defend herself a bit, she lacks the damage to quickly dispatch a foe if caught alone so a buddy would be nice to have to help her out.
imho, Moira is a good primary healer due to the strength of her heals and having two ways to heal (primary and slow-moving healing orb with a cooldown). I wouldn't have her up as a solo healer because she needs to fight in order to heal, and an extra healer as backup goes a long way to keeping your team alive. Preferably Zenyatta, because his heal orb can reach targets Moira can't, and Moira can use the extra healing discord orb provides as she drains health. Maybe Mercy for boost, but the two would be competing as short/medium-range primary healers.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 7, 2017 10:37:14 GMT
Kevlareater How would you say her ult is? It looks a bit situational, and especially the damage doesn't really look that impressive. I think she looks cool, and I hope she is going to be a viable pick on console!
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Post by Melra on Nov 7, 2017 13:00:31 GMT
Well gotta give Jeff points for the ringtone.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 7, 2017 15:38:34 GMT
Kinda let down by Moira's skins, I find her default one to be her best.
At any rate, I look forward to trying to get her chievos when she releases in the main game.
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Post by Kevlareater on Nov 7, 2017 18:23:23 GMT
Kevlareater How would you say her ult is? It looks a bit situational, and especially the damage doesn't really look that impressive. I think she looks cool, and I hope she is going to be a viable pick on console! gfycat.com/gifs/detail/ShadowyImpossibleHouseflyIf the gif doesn't work, then this link should hopefully do the trick. To answer the question, the ult damage isn't very high. Moira's ult does ~65-70 DPS / ~140 HPS, is 30m long and has a self-heal, whether or not you hit anyone. Hitting aligned teammates and foes can be a bit of a crapshoot of you're in the thick of things, but the gif provided shows me in the back hitting whoever I can. I believe she will be good on console. If you can use Mei with a controller (or play a mage in TES on the regular, also with a controller), chances are good you will do fine with Moira.
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Post by CrazyRah on Nov 7, 2017 18:26:12 GMT
Ah so we follow the same artist. And yeah that Ana artwork was pretty amazing
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Post by Melra on Nov 7, 2017 19:08:38 GMT
Kinda let down by Moira's skins, I find her default one to be her best. At any rate, I look forward to trying to get her chievos when she releases in the main game. Just have to hope they get her in as soon as possible to increase the likelihood of getting some event skins. Shame she didn't arrive before Halloween.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 8, 2017 22:12:22 GMT
Wow, how I love being thrown into the middle of the game, try my best to heal while everyone decides that playing the objective is boring, only to be called a trash Mercy player afterwards by the Tracer. I checked that person's stats, their best healing in game was half of my best healing. Played Mercy immediately after in a new game, 10 000 healing on Eichenwalde with 0 deaths and 37% damage taken. Fuck that Tracer.
Sorry, but it really annoys me when people write trash and I needed to vent.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2017 4:50:12 GMT
Wow, how I love being thrown into the middle of the game, try my best to heal while everyone decides that playing the objective is boring, only to be called a trash Mercy player afterwards by the Tracer. I checked that person's stats, their best healing in game was half of my best healing. Played Mercy immediately after in a new game, 10 000 healing on Eichenwalde with 0 deaths and 37% damage taken. Fuck that Tracer. Sorry, but it really annoys me when people write trash and I needed to vent. Healers, never get credit for victories gets all the blame for defeats.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2017 5:01:21 GMT
Man the pros really hate Mercy.
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Post by Domakir on Nov 9, 2017 12:28:51 GMT
Wow, how I love being thrown into the middle of the game, try my best to heal while everyone decides that playing the objective is boring, only to be called a trash Mercy player afterwards by the Tracer. I checked that person's stats, their best healing in game was half of my best healing. Played Mercy immediately after in a new game, 10 000 healing on Eichenwalde with 0 deaths and 37% damage taken. Fuck that Tracer. Sorry, but it really annoys me when people write trash and I needed to vent. This is why the hidechat command is my best friend. I'm so tired of reading stupid things in OW... Don't this people realise that they are playing bad too because they are focus on what others are doing than on what they should be doing? And at the same time they are making the team play badly because they are reading their nonsense in chat. The reason why you lose a game isn't because of bad plays, but this f*ing attitude.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 9, 2017 13:55:30 GMT
Wow, how I love being thrown into the middle of the game, try my best to heal while everyone decides that playing the objective is boring, only to be called a trash Mercy player afterwards by the Tracer. I checked that person's stats, their best healing in game was half of my best healing. Played Mercy immediately after in a new game, 10 000 healing on Eichenwalde with 0 deaths and 37% damage taken. Fuck that Tracer. Sorry, but it really annoys me when people write trash and I needed to vent. Healers, never get credit for victories gets all the blame for defeats. I dunno, in one of the games I played after to prove to myself that I'm a decent Mercy I got 8 likes. Really warmed my heart, didn't think anyone would really notice my contribution, especially since I rarely get PotG anymore. Last week I played with some random people in comp, we lost so many games and I was a little blue afterwards... then a couple of them sent me messages telling me how great they thought I was. Really warmed me up so much!
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2017 18:29:46 GMT
I don’t like the fact that DVA is weaker defensively.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2017 21:37:15 GMT
At least new Mercy is fun until the pros will ruin her with their complaining.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 9, 2017 23:27:07 GMT
Aaaand now a Widowmaker wrote and insulted me because I didn't heal/rez her enough. We had two tanks who were doing a lot of good work and taking heavy damage, of course I'm going to give them priority over someone in the backline! In fact, I only prioritize rezzing Widowmakers that I noticed are particularly good at getting picks because otherwise you are better off saving it for tanks, other support, or at least a dps that can peel for you. I really wish some people would play support more so they can understand our reasoning!
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2017 23:31:10 GMT
Aaaand now a Widowmaker wrote and insulted me because I didn't heal/rez her enough. We had two tanks who were doing a lot of good work and taking heavy damage, of course I'm going to give them priority over someone in the backline! In fact, I only prioritize rezzing Widowmakers that I noticed are particularly good at getting picks because otherwise you are better off saving it for tanks, other support, or at least a dps that can peel for you. I really wish some people would play support more so they can understand our reasoning! Nah they much rather listen to DPS you tubers. They have all the knowledge.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 9, 2017 23:45:26 GMT
Aaaand now a Widowmaker wrote and insulted me because I didn't heal/rez her enough. We had two tanks who were doing a lot of good work and taking heavy damage, of course I'm going to give them priority over someone in the backline! In fact, I only prioritize rezzing Widowmakers that I noticed are particularly good at getting picks because otherwise you are better off saving it for tanks, other support, or at least a dps that can peel for you. I really wish some people would play support more so they can understand our reasoning! Nah they much rather listen to DPS you tubers. They have all the knowledge. We didn't even lose this time! I guess we support mains are always going to be considered bad players who were carried to our ranks and enjoys the suffering of our teammates...
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Post by Duelist on Nov 10, 2017 0:08:03 GMT
Aaaand now a Widowmaker wrote and insulted me because I didn't heal/rez her enough. We had two tanks who were doing a lot of good work and taking heavy damage, of course I'm going to give them priority over someone in the backline! In fact, I only prioritize rezzing Widowmakers that I noticed are particularly good at getting picks because otherwise you are better off saving it for tanks, other support, or at least a dps that can peel for you. I really wish some people would play support more so they can understand our reasoning! Tanks get that bullshit from snipers too and my response is always the same: stop playing sniper and they'll stop jumping you. I once had a game where an idiot ran Widow into triple tank, swapped on to Genji instead of Reaper and then had the nerve to get pissed when I stopped playing tank for Reaper. He did shut up when I pointed out I had 4 gold medals despite only playing DPS for one point.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 10, 2017 0:26:59 GMT
Aaaand now a Widowmaker wrote and insulted me because I didn't heal/rez her enough. We had two tanks who were doing a lot of good work and taking heavy damage, of course I'm going to give them priority over someone in the backline! In fact, I only prioritize rezzing Widowmakers that I noticed are particularly good at getting picks because otherwise you are better off saving it for tanks, other support, or at least a dps that can peel for you. I really wish some people would play support more so they can understand our reasoning! Tanks get that bullshit from snipers too and my response is always the same: stop playing sniper and they'll stop jumping you. I once had a game where an idiot ran Widow into triple tank, swapped on to Genji instead of Reaper and then had the nerve to get pissed when I stopped playing tank for Reaper. He did shut up when I pointed out I had 4 gold medals despite only playing DPS for one point. I love tanks, I will always have your back!
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Post by Duelist on Nov 10, 2017 0:38:08 GMT
Tanks get that bullshit from snipers too and my response is always the same: stop playing sniper and they'll stop jumping you. I once had a game where an idiot ran Widow into triple tank, swapped on to Genji instead of Reaper and then had the nerve to get pissed when I stopped playing tank for Reaper. He did shut up when I pointed out I had 4 gold medals despite only playing DPS for one point. I love tanks, I will always have your back! Even when I decide to go Flankhog? Because I'm a Flankhog at heart.
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