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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 10, 2017 0:44:30 GMT
I love tanks, I will always have your back! Even when I decide to go Flankhog? Because I'm a Flankhog at heart. Well... I might not rez you if you die flanking, but if you die trying to protect me from that pesky Tracer? Sure! If you killed someone who really annoyed me when out flanking? Honey, I might even activate Valkyrie to bring you back! (Road Hogs are great to rez, if they take heavy fire they just heal it up).
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Post by smilesja on Nov 10, 2017 0:50:29 GMT
Tanks get that bullshit from snipers too and my response is always the same: stop playing sniper and they'll stop jumping you. I once had a game where an idiot ran Widow into triple tank, swapped on to Genji instead of Reaper and then had the nerve to get pissed when I stopped playing tank for Reaper. He did shut up when I pointed out I had 4 gold medals despite only playing DPS for one point. I love tanks, I will always have your back! Until you get nerfed to the ground!
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 10, 2017 1:09:13 GMT
I love tanks, I will always have your back! Until you get nerfed to the ground! I'm honestly not too bothered by her latest nerf, she did get too much value out her her single rez. However, I think the change they made is the wrong one; they should have tied rez to her ult, given her an extra charge (total of 3), nerfed the duration and self regeneration, and given her something else for her E when she's not in Valkyrie. It would have made her ult more fun and useful while making her normal kit less stifling. The current Valkyrie is pretty boring; the most exciting part are the three seconds you use to rez someone, after that you just... hover. Zarya with her grav has become Mercy's worst enemy because even without ults the enemy team can often wipe them (unless there is a Rein to shield them, but how often does that happen anymore?). Valkyrie has a very hard time dealing with intense and focused damage (tac-visor, death blossom, meteor strike, barrage... the list goes on), and rezzing two people when five are down is often just a bad idea. It's ironic really, with Mercy's old ult it was most often used defensively and you had to use it after the fight is over, but with Valkyrie it is best used offensively and preemptively. I know Mercy makes a lot of difference (often too much difference) but I also want to feel like I'm making a difference.
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Post by kouzje on Nov 10, 2017 3:03:25 GMT
Healers, never get credit for victories gets all the blame for defeats. I dunno, in one of the games I played after to prove to myself that I'm a decent Mercy I got 8 likes. Really warmed my heart, didn't think anyone would really notice my contribution, especially since I rarely get PotG anymore. Last week I played with some random people in comp, we lost so many games and I was a little blue afterwards... then a couple of them sent me messages telling me how great they thought I was. Really warmed me up so much! Wow, I don't think I've ever got 8 votes! I rarely get a lot of upvotes even when I know I did really good and I got amazing numbers on my card. It's easy to feel down about it sometimes but I try not to pay attention to it. When you think about it, it's better not to rely on random people to judge your level of play. So be it comments or votes, I try not to care. People need to blame someone for their loss and usually the worst people are the ones blaming the others anyways (and this way they never try to get better). Basically if your team died, they think you did bad, regardless of their own performance. If you help someone, they'll just think they played well. And the votes are just complete randomness. Not even talking about PotG. BTW new Mercy PotGs are completely stupid xD Healing is just a thankless job I guess. When you play Mercy you get even more trash because most people think they can judge when they have no idea whatsoever makes a good Mercy or not. They always try to belittle your achievements. They're like "but she's so easy to play". On the other hand, I'm sure you're an amazing Mercy because you care and you try to play well, which is already a lot more than most players. My tip for when I need a bit of cheering: I check my Oversumo app and I bask in the glory of how it tells me a random stat is Grandmaster level xD -- Also I agree that Mercy needs a nerf. I think her ult is too long as well.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 10, 2017 7:07:49 GMT
They just need to give Reaper his ability to nom nom souls like he did way back when(though gains less health back) along with his vampiric ability.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 10, 2017 10:57:37 GMT
kouzje I try not to take anything to heart, I used to even sass people, but it's been more as of late so I'm a bit tired of it. And don't get me started on her PotG, the few times I get it they are stupidly boring to watch! Hanako Ikezawa As much as I understand the idea about the "soul eating" I'm not a fan simply because it's something that counters one character super hard (it wouldn't affect anyone else in any way), and it would make Reaper mandatory against a good Mercy player. A good Reaper could also make it impossible for Mercy to be able to use the most impactful part of her kit, and Mercy is already starting to suffer from boring play. I think a lot of Mercy players would be happy if rez was locked into Valkyrie but compensated with extra charges, but I doubt we will ever see that. By the way, did anyone else see Jeff Kaplan call scatter arrow one-shots a skillshot? No offense to any Hanzo players here, but I rarely play him and usually gets most of my kills with scatter (even on small characters like Tracer). Saying that it's just as hard as headshotting someone is just plain wrong. I saw a poor Orisa get one-shot from full health only yesterday, it always breaks my heart a bit...
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Post by Duelist on Nov 10, 2017 12:36:42 GMT
Even when I decide to go Flankhog? Because I'm a Flankhog at heart. Well... I might not rez you if you die flanking, but if you die trying to protect me from that pesky Tracer? Sure! If you killed someone who really annoyed me when out flanking? Honey, I might even activate Valkyrie to bring you back! (Road Hogs are great to rez, if they take heavy fire they just heal it up). As a general rule, I'm flexible with my tank picks. On certain maps or certain points of certain maps, I have a specific tank I like to play. King's Row for instance is my favourite Zarya/Reinhardt map whereas second point Hollywood is where I've ripped teams apart with Winston on both attack and defence. On the other hand, if a certain enemy is having a really big game I'll pick someone who can ruin their fun. D.Va/Winston is my go to for shutting down flankers, Zarya when I need to carry.
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Post by Domakir on Nov 10, 2017 15:21:56 GMT
Today a friend of mine played a couple of competitive games, she lost some of them and her team blamed her for being a woman... And I thought people couldn't be dumber, it seems I was wrong.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 10, 2017 17:00:04 GMT
Domakir It never cease to amaze me at what lengths people will go to blame others so their own stupid ego remains intact. Sadly, this does happen sometimes, in videogames and IRL. I hope she won't let it get to her, even if I know it can be really discouraging.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 10, 2017 17:03:37 GMT
This blame game happens in all ranks sadly.
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Post by Domakir on Nov 10, 2017 17:49:26 GMT
Domakir It never cease to amaze me at what lengths people will go to blame others so their own stupid ego remains intact. Sadly, this does happen sometimes, in videogames and IRL. I hope she won't let it get to her, even if I know it can be really discouraging. Don't worry, I was the one angry about it and she was just laughing at me a little. She doesn't let a few men with very little self esteem get to her. Plus, she knows she's good, or at least way better than me as she often likes to remind me. lol What angers me the most is that my friend doesn't care about it but if these people would have said the same thing to someone else, they could have hurt them badly.
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Post by kouzje on Nov 11, 2017 16:30:34 GMT
Today a friend of mine played a couple of competitive games, she lost some of them and her team blamed her for being a woman... And I thought people couldn't be dumber, it seems I was wrong. That's basically why I don't use voice with strangers.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 11, 2017 19:57:02 GMT
Aaaand now people are complaining that Mercy's Guardian Angel is too good and should be nerfed... so barely any self-defense, a mobility not only reliant on teammates but also with a cooldown of 3 seconds, a rez that makes you stand still for almost two seconds... Yeah, sounds super fun!
It's especially funny when it's a Tracer, Genji or D.VA main complaining - like, you have amazing mobility and damage output, you can easily kill a non-ulting Mercy if you focus her down.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 11, 2017 21:34:11 GMT
Shit, I might end up getting banned for playing D.Va too much in Comp then, Lol. Although I sometimes play offense or healer when need be. I once had one dude on voice bitching about me playing D.va instead of Reinhardt and how playing rein would be an easy win and he continued to bitch throughout the match about my refusal to switch. We ended up winning the match (thanks in good part to my D.va), and at the end of it I finally got on the mic and said "Fuck playing Reinhardt" in a smug smartass tone.
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Post by Lvca on Nov 11, 2017 22:33:00 GMT
Shit, I might end up getting banned for playing D.Va too much in Comp then, Lol. Although I sometimes play offense or healer when need be. I once had one dude on voice bitching about me playing D.va instead of Reinhardt and how playing rein would be an easy win and he continued to bitch throughout the match about my refusal to switch. We ended up winning the match (thanks in good part to my D.va), and at the end of it I finally got on the mic and said "Fuck playing Reinhardt" in a smug smartass tone. If they make it right, a lot of simultaneous reports would be needed to ban anybody. Like, if your whole team reports you on different matches. But there's a chance they somehow fuck it up and innocent people get banned. We'll see.
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Post by Duelist on Nov 11, 2017 22:48:07 GMT
A lot of it depends on what you one trick though.
If you're a Mercy, Reinhardt or Tracer one trick, you'll be fine. If you one trick a hero like Sym or Torb on the other hand, reported.
Part of the reason I hate playing around people who one trick heroes like Torb is that if they win, they climb a lot and keep doing it. Yet if you don't play around them, you lose a ton of SR, they lose fuck all and keep doing it.
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Post by Lvca on Nov 11, 2017 23:30:51 GMT
A lot of it depends on what you one trick though. If you're a Mercy, Reinhardt or Tracer one trick, you'll be fine. If you one trick a hero like Sym or Torb on the other hand, reported. Part of the reason I hate playing around people who one trick heroes like Torb is that if they win, they climb a lot and keep doing it. Yet if you don't play around them, you lose a ton of SR, they lose fuck all and keep doing it. Mercys will be banned left and right, at least on high level PC play. EeveeA, popular Mercy 1 trick streamer got banned already.
Edit: nvm she isn't banned. I still think OTP mercys will get banned on high rank PC play, the players there have been the ones complaining the most about them.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 12, 2017 3:26:16 GMT
What’s with he pros hatred of Mercy? It’s like they don’t want a healer.
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Post by Duelist on Nov 12, 2017 8:28:00 GMT
The meta shifts around the supports, for better or worse.
Mercy draws out fights, Zen means flankers become strong and Ana favours tank heavy compositions. Personally, I hate the Junkrat buffs a lot more than Mercy.
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Post by Lvca on Nov 12, 2017 12:16:28 GMT
What’s with he pros hatred of Mercy? It’s like they don’t want a healer. What do you mean with "pros"? Professional esports players or high SR players? Professionals do not hate mercy. Back before the buffs (huge rez mercy) mercy wasn't viable on esports outside of pharah mercy because those matches are different than competitive mode. Pros did hate Mercy OTPs (and any other non meta OTP) in ladder because if you play Rein+Zarya, Ana+Lucio used to be much better, and for dive comps it was Zen+Lucio. Mercy made playing tanks much worse, and if you had 2 mercy OTPs on your team, which is relatively common on that level, you were fucked cause they are OTPs. After the buffs (ability rez mercy) they hate how irrelevant mistakes and picks have become, and how much longer teamfights are because of the rez, both in professional matches and ladder. They still hate OTPs in ladder, but mercy is OP so the majority of support players have learned to play her. A few do hate that she's a "low skill" hero. Some are also popular streamers. Blizzard in theory listen to them for balance and all that, presumably even more now with OWL. High rank ladder players are similar, but there are more people on the "she's a low skill hero" band, maybe because there's just a lot more players. Blizzard takes into account complaints by players of all ranks, most recent evidence I know the Hog nerfs.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 14, 2017 17:59:50 GMT
Have they done something to the sr-system for supports? I played about the same as I always have, got placed 300 sr lower than I did last season. That seems too much, I don't think I played that much worse.
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Post by Domakir on Nov 14, 2017 18:38:26 GMT
Have they done something to the sr-system for supports? I played about the same as I always have, got placed 300 sr lower than I did last season. That seems too much, I don't think I played that much worse. I was placed way lower too (I'm an Ana main, sometimes I use Zen), and I played as always. It wasn't hard to get that sr back though, but I found it a little weird to have so much less than usual. Or maybe I just played like shit and I didn't notice. Lol
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Nov 14, 2017 18:45:48 GMT
Have they done something to the sr-system for supports? I played about the same as I always have, got placed 300 sr lower than I did last season. That seems too much, I don't think I played that much worse. I was placed way lower too (I'm an Ana main, sometimes I use Zen), and I played as always. It wasn't hard to get that sr back though, but I found it a little weird to have so much less than usual. Or maybe I just played like shit and I didn't notice. Lol Yeah, could be I played worse than I realize, my teams had some really weird comps: - Winston refusing to change when the enemy have tanks+Mercy+Bastion+Reaper - Attack Symmetra (every round, no matter the result) - People who leave after a won round (could be a disconnect, but why didn't they reconnect?) - D.VAs throwing their bombs at the Rein shield despite the team having Gravition ready I also had to play character some games because those I'm most comfortable with were either taken or very inappropriate for the map.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 15, 2017 1:09:50 GMT
New Mercy is really fun to play as!
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