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Post by phoray on Feb 8, 2017 22:31:19 GMT
.... Shepherd has pet fish? a fish farm? That would be a spoiler! You're the one who brought it up. Fish. Important to saving the Galaxy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 22:45:23 GMT
Trying to figure out what all the Trilogy I bought came with. Found this on Origins...Mass Effect Trilogy includes Mass Effect Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky ME3 came with the Extended Cut. I also see that it's downloading The Normandy Crash Sight, Cerberus Arc PRojector, Cerberus armor and weapons, Firewalker Pack, Zaeed- the Price of Revenge. None of those say Genesis. AnDromedary mentioned ME2: Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival ME3: From Ashes, Leviathan and Citadel Overlord, Kasumi's Stolen Memories for ME2 and Omega for ME3 And I see that none of the things I got match up with those either. Yes, you have the same package as I do. All the other DLC cost a lot compared to the base game. Make sure you download and install the free stuff. It's a touch tricky nowadays.
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Post by phoray on Feb 8, 2017 22:51:14 GMT
@domi
I've vaguely heard about Citadel being important. What do you think about those other suggestions? I know in DA2, Sebastian the Prince and MOTA were totally uneccessary fluff but Legacy is essential to understanding DAI.
Also, I'm not finding this side content on Origins. is there special search terms I should be using?
found it on the general website, weird, but not from the search engine of Browse Games on my Origins account.
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@domi I've vaguely heard about Citadel being important. What do you think about those other suggestions? I know in DA2, Sebastian the Prince and MOTA were totally uneccessary fluff but Legacy is essential to understanding DAI. Also, I'm not finding this side content on Origins. is there special search terms I should be using? If you select an installed game, it will have a tab for extra content. That will show all available DLC. I have played first time without even free DLCs because I did not realize they downloaded, but did not install, and I was fine. I have never paid for other DLCs. I don't particularly like Liara, I have more than enough companions in ME2 to want Kasumi, I don't even finish every N7 sidequest, so don't really feel like dishing out 10-15$ for another sidequest, and a party on Citadel sounds like fun... but I just never felt an overwhelming need to get drunk with my companions? Dunno, game's great as is and if the whole trilogy is $15, Citadel costing the same... no, just no. Andromeda is here.
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Post by phoray on Feb 8, 2017 23:07:10 GMT
I clicked on all the Free stuff to add on. Will hold off on expensive DLC to see if I adore the game or not. Guess I'll go to the grocery while I wait for all the content to Download. First world problem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 23:12:45 GMT
Trying to figure out what all the Trilogy I bought came with. Found this on Origins...Mass Effect Trilogy includes Mass Effect Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky ME3 came with the Extended Cut. I also see that it's downloading The Normandy Crash Sight, Cerberus Arc PRojector, Cerberus armor and weapons, Firewalker Pack, Zaeed- the Price of Revenge. None of those say Genesis. AnDromedary mentioned ME2: Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival ME3: From Ashes, Leviathan and Citadel Overlord, Kasumi's Stolen Memories for ME2 and Omega for ME3 And I see that none of the things I got match up with those either. The Genesis or Genesis 2 DLC is only recommended when you are not starting your playthrough with ME1. Genesis would apply if you're starting with ME2 and Genesis 2 would apply if you're starting in ME3. Genesis 2 on the Xbox is all of $3.99, so it's not really that expensive. Like the Dragon Age Keep in some respects, it enables you to make some of the choices for yourself that occurred in the game(s) you're not playing... so, you could tell the game that you previously romanced Kaidan without actually playing ME1 to have done that or you could be a BroShep who at least has Kaidan survive Virmire rather than Ashley. The only worthwhile DLC for ME1 is Bring Down the Sky. Your ME2 included DLCs appear to be the ones you've listed for ME3 - that is, Normandy Crash Site, Firewalker, and Zaeed: The Price of Revenge are ME2 DLCs not ME3; and I'm pretty sure those Cerberus weapons and armor are also ME2 related, not ME3. For ME3, the only DLC likely included would be the Extended Cut. Additional DLCs available for ME2 are: Lair of the Shadow Broker; Arrival; Overlord; and Kasumi: Stolen Memory. Additional DLCs avialble for ME3 are: From Ashes; Omega; and Leviathan All of these DLCs add missions to the story and two add squad mates - (Kasumi in ME2 and From Ashes in ME3). Opinions really differ as to what DLCs are "the best" or "most necessary." Personally, I have them all and really enjoy how much more fleshed out the story seems with them than without them. I have never regretted buying them. Of course, the drawback is the cost.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 8, 2017 23:23:01 GMT
What? Even in the GOTY/Trilogy version they included NONE of the DLCs? Even after they got criticized a hell of a lot for cutting essential parts out of the game?!? That's a disgrace, shame on you EA!!!
Well, in that case, I do still stand by my earlier post. The DLCs are expensive but if you can spare the money, they are worth their while in the end.
You won't play any of them until fairly late in the game anyway, so you can hold off for now and decide later, how much you enjoy the game and want to expand it. But if you decide not to get LotSB (Lair of the Shadow Broker) and Arrival for ME2, I recommend you do read the plot summary on the ME wiki page or something since they really do contain essential plot information that binds ME2 and 3 together somewhat.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 8, 2017 23:46:16 GMT
Yeah, that's how it works. With the trilogy you get all of the free DLC and none of the paid DLC. The trilogy is not a GotY.
I don't know why it isn't. They're probably leaving a lot of money on the table.
But it's not like Bio actually cut anything important from the games, let alone essential. From Ashes was interesting but irrelevant, and the important DLCs were not written before their games were released.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 9, 2017 0:55:56 GMT
So, Jacob's romance is ... weird (both in 2 and 3), that's all I'll say. I'd say, just go into the game without a plan and see where you end up. On the mechanical side: You can always switch up romance partners between 2 and 3. There are no restrictions. Good o. I know nothing about Jacob. I liked Kaidan the moment he said he liked strong women in the first game. But I didn't like him enough to continue playing the game just to see the romance through. So I was sort of looking forward to him in 3. But I also didn't want to go romance less in a Bioware game my first PT if I started in 2 to allow for a Kaidan romance in 3. Is there a Mass effect equivalent to a Dragon Age Keep for between games? No Mass Effect "Keep". They have the Genesis "comic" intro but I don't think it's free. If you use it the game gives you more choices for what happened in ME1. Kaidan can be found in ME3 for a romance if you like.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 9, 2017 0:58:26 GMT
Out of curiosity, does using Genesis for simulating the events of ME1 help at all with: (Don't open the spoiler, phoray.) that damn morality point problem, for those of you who were helping me out with my playthrough? Because if so, she should get it.
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Out of curiosity, does using Genesis for simulating the events of ME1 help at all with: (Don't open the spoiler, phoray.) that damn morality point problem, for those of you who were helping me out with my playthrough? No
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Post by melbella on Feb 9, 2017 1:51:52 GMT
phoray Glad you're giving ME another shot. ME3 is a very different game (in looks, mechanics, and story) from ME1 so I hope you like it. I didn't play any ME games until the ME3 demo was released and after playing that I immediately bought ME1 to start the story from the beginning. While playing that I ordered ME2 and preordered ME3. Thousands of hours later, I still love the story and characters, flaws and all.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 9, 2017 2:08:25 GMT
Out of curiosity, does using Genesis for simulating the events of ME1 help at all with: (Don't open the spoiler, phoray.) that damn morality point problem, for those of you who were helping me out with my playthrough? Because if so, she should get it. Eh. It still doesn't give the best choices. Definitely do not use it for non-import plays of ME3. Genesis and Genesis 2 seem to make a lot of Renegade choices for you. That's fine if you want to play that way but certain things always happen that you may not like.
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Out of curiosity, does using Genesis for simulating the events of ME1 help at all with: (Don't open the spoiler, phoray.) that damn morality point problem, for those of you who were helping me out with my playthrough? Because if so, she should get it. The list of available choices a person can make using the Genesis comic are listed in the Wiki here: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect:_Genesismasseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect:_Genesis_2Hote: There are some spoilers within these Wiki pages.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 9, 2017 6:22:42 GMT
A PC player also has the option of savegame editing, depending on how well-documented the changes you want to make are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 13:32:12 GMT
phoray either playing it and can't tear herself away, or she gave up... heh. I am not sure which game she did start with in the end, the ME2 or 3. Waiting to hear the verdict, heh.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 9, 2017 22:11:37 GMT
phoray either playing it and can't tear herself away, or she gave up... heh. I am not sure which game she did start with in the end, the ME2 or 3. Waiting to hear the verdict, heh. She started with 2 She said that somewhere, possibly in one of my threads, though. I think she might be finishing up Witcher 3 first.
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Post by phoray on Feb 10, 2017 3:33:35 GMT
phoray either playing it and can't tear herself away, or she gave up... heh. I am not sure which game she did start with in the end, the ME2 or 3. Waiting to hear the verdict, heh. I'm starting with 2. There was a few hours where it needed to download. Then I found out when I got back that I'm dumb and there isn't a special charging cord for a PS4 so I can finish TW3. I suspect I will be done with TW3 the 14th or the 17th of this month, looking at my work schedule. Today being the 9th. In the meanwhile, I have to decide between buying Genesis to create a save or just use the website to create a save. Also the controller for PC mod said everything had to be fully downloaded before I could install it. What I'm hearing is that Genesis will make Renegade decisions for me? And costs a chunk of change Vs a mod editor that may not cover everything. Leaning towards the second. Either way, the initial start up effort of this intended venture isn't as simple as pressing Start
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 13:12:45 GMT
phoray I am wondering if it's possible to simply import someone else's saved game, seeing you can change everything about you saved Shepard when starting the ME2? I was going to import my Paragon's run to start ME2/3 for Garrus romance that way.
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 3:50:49 GMT
phoray I am wondering if it's possible to simply import someone else's saved game, seeing you can change everything about you saved Shepard when starting the ME2? I was going to import my Paragon's run to start ME2/3 for Garrus romance that way. I think that's what that website someone posted does? I dunno. Is there a place I can read a description of the default World State of ME1 for ME2? I'll try googling. Edit add: This is what I found and ???) Means I have no clue what they are talking about. Mass Effect 1 Default: Garrus was recruited (I did that) Wrex was recruited (I did that) The feros colony was not saved (???) Shiala, the asari, was killed by the Thorian (???) The Rachni Queen died (I let her live) Shepard killed Wrex on Virmire (why???) Shepard had no romance (good) The destiny ascension, along with the council, was destroyed.( They seemed like idiots anyway???) Udina was named counsellor (???) All side missions and DLC content are considered as if you did not do them (is this bad???)
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 11, 2017 4:00:02 GMT
phoray I am wondering if it's possible to simply import someone else's saved game, seeing you can change everything about you saved Shepard when starting the ME2? I was going to import my Paragon's run to start ME2/3 for Garrus romance that way. I think that's what that website someone posted does? I dunno. Is there a place I can read a description of the default World State of ME1 for ME2? I'll try googling. Through googling I found this: Garrus was recruited Wrex was recruited The feros colony was not saved Shiala, the asari, was killed by the Thorian The Rachni Queen died Shepard killed Wrex on Virmire Shepard had no romance (oh noes!) The destiny ascension, along with the council, was destroyed. Udina was named counsellor All side missions and DLC content are considered as if you did not do them And I can confirm that the default world state I got for ME1 contains the bolded parts, at least. I've been ninja'd by your edit
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 11, 2017 6:24:38 GMT
phoray I am wondering if it's possible to simply import someone else's saved game, seeing you can change everything about you saved Shepard when starting the ME2? I was going to import my Paragon's run to start ME2/3 for Garrus romance that way. I think that's what that website someone posted does? I dunno. Is there a place I can read a description of the default World State of ME1 for ME2? I'll try googling. Edit add: This is what I found and ???) Means I have no clue what they are talking about. Mass Effect 1 Default: Garrus was recruited (I did that) Wrex was recruited (I did that) The feros colony was not saved (???) Shiala, the asari, was killed by the Thorian (???) The Rachni Queen died (I let her live) Shepard killed Wrex on Virmire (why???) Shepard had no romance (good) The destiny ascension, along with the council, was destroyed.( They seemed like idiots anyway???) Udina was named counsellor (???) All side missions and DLC content are considered as if you did not do them (is this bad???) Feros colony was a potential war asset. Shiala shows up in ME2 and emails you in ME3. The rachni queen dying will have some serious repercussions in ME3 but only some missed commentary in ME2. Wrex's absence is notable in many different ways. Destiny Ascension...I don't know. I feel like you get more war assets with the Alliance ships saved but I'm not positive about that. Udina is a jerk but you end up with him in the end no matter what. There are only two DLC for ME1. One has absolutely no impact on even a single line of dialogue or war assets and the other potentially makes some minor changes in ME3 (depends on how you handled the ending of Bring Down the Sky). I think I've said I'm a PC gamer. As such, if I decide I dislike the decisions ME2 made for me about ME1 then I'll use the Gibbed Save Game Editor to alter things more to my liking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 8:36:39 GMT
phoray I am wondering if it's possible to simply import someone else's saved game, seeing you can change everything about you saved Shepard when starting the ME2? I was going to import my Paragon's run to start ME2/3 for Garrus romance that way. I think that's what that website someone posted does? I dunno. Is there a place I can read a description of the default World State of ME1 for ME2? I'll try googling. Edit add: This is what I found and ???) Means I have no clue what they are talking about. Mass Effect 1 Default: Garrus was recruited (I did that) Wrex was recruited (I did that) The feros colony was not saved (???) Shiala, the asari, was killed by the Thorian (???) The Rachni Queen died (I let her live) Shepard killed Wrex on Virmire (why???) Shepard had no romance (good) The destiny ascension, along with the council, was destroyed.( They seemed like idiots anyway???) Udina was named counsellor (???) All side missions and DLC content are considered as if you did not do them (is this bad???) Just filling in some things on DMC1001's post - The Destiny Ascension, had it been saved, would be a war asset in ME3. As for the council, I believe the default is to substitute in a new multi-race council, so really there is no effect beyond changing their names and using different VAs than the original council. The side missions result in various characters either showing up on the hubs in ME2 or emailing you. None of these meetings have a real affect on ME2 beyond maybe a couple of P/R points for dialogue used in interacting with the ones that show up. Not being able to do one of them will cause you to miss out on one other little side quest in ME3. Not being able to do BDtS will result in a substitute character showing up in one side quest in ME3... changing the nature of that quest slightly. The biggest and most renegade impacts of using the default are with the status of Wrex and the Rachni Queen.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 11, 2017 13:59:38 GMT
The Destiny Ascension, had it been saved, would be a war asset in ME3. If Feros were saved, the player would get war assets in ME3 When on Illium, Shiala will show up if alive. If dead, a human female colinist will show up If the dlc wasn't completed, Balak will show up. If he was killed in the dlc, another batarian shows up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 14:41:21 GMT
The Destiny Ascension, had it been saved, would be a war asset in ME3. If Feros were saved, the player would get war assets in ME3 When on Illium, Shiala will show up if alive. If dead, a human female colinist will show up If the dlc wasn't completed, Balak will show up. If he was killed in the dlc, another batarian shows up I thought dmc1001 covered Feros and Shiala, so I just didn't repeat it. He said he didn't know about the Destiny Ascension, so that's where I cut in. You're right, I stand corrected on BDtS as to when it is that the substitute character shows up (and, therefore, when you can get the different impression of what is happening). However, in ME3, there is no difference in the War Assets potentially available associated with this quest regardless, right?
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