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Post by BadgerladDK on Feb 12, 2017 18:12:29 GMT
Never mind names, do they have flags?
No flag, no planet.
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Post by President of Boom on Feb 12, 2017 18:21:24 GMT
Never mind names, do they have flags? No flag, no planet. Eddie Izzard approves.  |
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Post by stysiaq on Feb 12, 2017 20:41:22 GMT
I'm kind of interested if Andromeda inhabitants have their name for Milky Way (they should unless they're unwashed savages). The people from the Milky Way will be called 'sleepers' (from the hibernation during the trip) and the newborns will be called whatever golden world they are born on/ near I meant the Milky Way galaxy, not the creatures that came from there. |
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Post by illusivecake on Feb 12, 2017 23:02:40 GMT
I'm kind of interested if Andromeda inhabitants have their name for Milky Way (they should unless they're unwashed savages). I bet whatever it is, it's cooler than "Milky Way" Because a significant part of gameplay will, apparently, involve exploring "new" planets in the Helius Cluster, something that might be interesting to address in Andromeda is the naming of these locations. As you might know, there's a place called America in our (real) world. It's generally thought that "America" comes from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer who spent time in the Americas shortly after Columbus. Of course, America already had people living in it. Pre-Columbian population estimates have varied widely over the years, from ~10 to well over 100+ million, with most contemporary guesses being in the 50+ million range. The point is, indigenous groups living in North and South America already had names for the rivers, mountains, and regions of their land. Anyway, we're going to the Helius Cluster in Andromeda, right? Isn't it likely that the sapient species of Helius Cluster will have their own names for that region? I don't expect anything big around this, but it would be an interesting dimension to the whole "explorer/colonialist" perspective to find out what the local species have named their worlds. Oh man.. that's something I didn't think about. If these planets we're colonizing belong to some other intelligent race, I'm going to feel super guilty just waltzing in and taking their shit. :/ I'm kind of worried that's what the story is gonna be. I mean, from a story standpoint, they can't just ignore the possibility of this. Makes me wonder how many similarities in the story will we get to Pocahontas and Avatar Ugh. I hope not. I'd really rather not play the role of John Smith/Jake Sully - learning about the indigenous people and then having to defend them against our own "big bad" people. That would really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Gross. Agreed. that would be gross...unfortunately the story could easily lend itself to this exact type of scenario *shivers* |
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 12, 2017 23:30:33 GMT
Makes me wonder how many similarities in the story will we get to Pocahontas and Avatar Ugh. I hope not. I'd really rather not play the role of John Smith/Jake Sully - learning about the indigenous people and then having to defend them against our own "big bad" people. That would really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Gross. I mean, I agree. But in the Indigenous people's mind, we are invading their space it seems. The Kett become hostile "savages". And it looks like we are going to raid all the vaults and mine for resources (similar to Avatar, there's precious resources that we need). We don't know the main purpose of the initiative, but it's been predicted that big players are funding it to send us to find a "large amount of precious resources". Sound Familiar? (Again Avatar) And if the predicted main antagonist is correct, it seems like it will be to an extent. As I learned in all my Literature courses years ago, no narrative or theme is truly unique. They get recycled with a new coat of paint. Using British, French, Spanish, and Portuguese exploration and colonization history as references does not seem too far fetched for the writers at BIoware |
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 12, 2017 23:50:22 GMT
Makes me wonder how many similarities in the story will we get to Pocahontas and Avatar YOU AINT IN KANSAS ANYMORE! Wonder if there will be some old pasty white dude behind the control of the Kett....."Daddy?"  |
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 13, 2017 0:41:05 GMT
Ugh. I hope not. I'd really rather not play the role of John Smith/Jake Sully - learning about the indigenous people and then having to defend them against our own "big bad" people. That would really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Gross. I mean, I agree. But in the Indigenous people's mind, we are invading their space it seems. The Kett become hostile "savages". And it looks like we are going to raid all the vaults and mine for resources (similar to Avatar, there's precious resources that we need). We don't know the main purpose of the initiative, but it's been predicted that big players are funding it to send us to find a "large amount of precious resources". Sound Familiar? (Again Avatar) And if the predicted main antagonist is correct, it seems like it will be to an extent. As I learned in all my Literature courses years ago, no narrative or theme is truly unique. They get recycled with a new coat of paint. Using British, French, Spanish, and Portuguese exploration and colonization history as references does not seem too far fetched for the writers at BIoware I really hope that's not the case. I will be greatly disappointed. I expect there to be some conflict regarding our presence but hopefully we won't be displacing any intelligent species on their actual homeworld. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:51:34 GMT
I mean, I agree. But in the Indigenous people's mind, we are invading their space it seems. The Kett become hostile "savages". And it looks like we are going to raid all the vaults and mine for resources (similar to Avatar, there's precious resources that we need). We don't know the main purpose of the initiative, but it's been predicted that big players are funding it to send us to find a "large amount of precious resources". Sound Familiar? (Again Avatar) And if the predicted main antagonist is correct, it seems like it will be to an extent. As I learned in all my Literature courses years ago, no narrative or theme is truly unique. They get recycled with a new coat of paint. Using British, French, Spanish, and Portuguese exploration and colonization history as references does not seem too far fetched for the writers at BIoware I really hope that's not the case. I will be greatly disappointed. I expect there to be some conflict regarding our presence but hopefully we won't be displacing any intelligent species on their actual homeworld.  |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 13, 2017 1:16:50 GMT
Not where I thought this was gonna go... here I was hoping to have a poll on what to name our first colonized planet.
Was ready to vote for Planet McPlanet Face.
Disappointed. 4/10
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 13, 2017 1:42:39 GMT
I mean, I agree. But in the Indigenous people's mind, we are invading their space it seems. The Kett become hostile "savages". And it looks like we are going to raid all the vaults and mine for resources (similar to Avatar, there's precious resources that we need). We don't know the main purpose of the initiative, but it's been predicted that big players are funding it to send us to find a "large amount of precious resources". Sound Familiar? (Again Avatar) And if the predicted main antagonist is correct, it seems like it will be to an extent. As I learned in all my Literature courses years ago, no narrative or theme is truly unique. They get recycled with a new coat of paint. Using British, French, Spanish, and Portuguese exploration and colonization history as references does not seem too far fetched for the writers at BIoware I really hope that's not the case. I will be greatly disappointed. I expect there to be some conflict regarding our presence but hopefully we won't be displacing any intelligent species on their actual homeworld. I don't think we as in Sara or Scott Ryder will directly, but I think there is an ultimate motive behind the initiative that we may or may not agree with. We already know there is corruption within the Nexus due to the whole Nexus Uprising Book coming out the same day as the game. (and Sloan Kelley from the trailer) I don't think we will be displacing any species, but something in the Initiative will be upsetting the balance. The Kett have to be pissed off for some narrative reason. We're just one Pathfinder representing hundreds of thousands of individuals. The colonists and humans in Avatar were much less, and both had corruption with their own motives. I think there will be some conflict with the Angara as well. Maybe not to the extent of the 1st Contact Wars but we can't expect them to immediately trust any of the new races. There will be some who are welcoming and others in high power who aren't. Jaal might be joining us to help us stop that conflict and potential threat from the Kett or Remnants. (Good real life metaphor is unfortunately the mixed reception of middle easterners into the US currently or Irish Catholics by American Protestants in the early 20th century.) It doesn't need to be exactly like Pocahontas or Avatar, but I think we will be able to draw comparisons. Without conflict internally, we'll get just another group of generic bad guys. And Mass Effect has always been known for tough choices morally. This would fit in the realm of being good or evil without having to rely on the paragon/renegade system. |
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 13, 2017 4:45:23 GMT
I really hope that's not the case. I will be greatly disappointed. I expect there to be some conflict regarding our presence but hopefully we won't be displacing any intelligent species on their actual homeworld. I don't think we as in Sara or Scott Ryder will directly, but I think there is an ultimate motive behind the initiative that we may or may not agree with. We already know there is corruption within the Nexus due to the whole Nexus Uprising Book coming out the same day as the game. (and Sloan Kelley from the trailer) I don't think we will be displacing any species, but something in the Initiative will be upsetting the balance. The Kett have to be pissed off for some narrative reason. We're just one Pathfinder representing hundreds of thousands of individuals. The colonists and humans in Avatar were much less, and both had corruption with their own motives. I think there will be some conflict with the Angara as well. Maybe not to the extent of the 1st Contact Wars but we can't expect them to immediately trust any of the new races. There will be some who are welcoming and others in high power who aren't. Jaal might be joining us to help us stop that conflict and potential threat from the Kett or Remnants. (Good real life metaphor is unfortunately the mixed reception of middle easterners into the US currently or Irish Catholics by American Protestants in the early 20th century.) It doesn't need to be exactly like Pocahontas or Avatar, but I think we will be able to draw comparisons. Without conflict internally, we'll get just another group of generic bad guys. And Mass Effect has always been known for tough choices morally. This would fit in the realm of being good or evil without having to rely on the paragon/renegade system. And that's okay, I think. I realize that we'll be stepping on toes and there will probably be species who claim ownership to entire regions of space - including planets that are not inhabited by them specifically (like with the Batarians) - and if we go in there and start mining or setting up outposts, jimmies will be rustled. I get that and I think that's the sort of conflict I'm expecting. I'm also expecting a lot of grey areas and tough choices. I would really rather our group of Milky Way immigrants don't try to settle on already-occupied homeworlds, though. That's just really horrible and haven't we already learned the lesson on that one? I'd hope so. I'd really rather not play a game where I'm having to be Jake Sully and fight our own dudes because a bunch of morons set up shop on a planet that was inhabited by an intelligent species already. Just, ugh. |
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