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Post by jasonpogo on Feb 11, 2017 22:32:27 GMT
So Bioware have said some characters will want an all in romance and others more casual. I think it would be fun if one of the romances is something like you can get along and maybe even sex the person up but no matter how hard you try they will not enter into a committed relationship with our Ryder. From a story telling plae I think it would be a neat idea. The hero dose not always get the girl/boy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 22:36:45 GMT
Like a female flirting with Dorian or Cass? Or a Dwarf and Qunari rejected by Cullen? I know they said some races will stick to their own kind even if you try to romance them. Maybe something like that will happen?
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Post by Vall on Feb 11, 2017 23:55:03 GMT
I can see the appeal from the story-telling perspective...
...BUT, I don't want it to happen with romance I want (and it actually does happen in previous games. Jack(as f!Shep), Cass(as femquisitor), James, Joker...)
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Post by Mihura on Feb 12, 2017 0:56:23 GMT
If it is for straight characters I am fine with it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 11:36:17 GMT
Vall Yes I don't want it either with characters I like.
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Post by Zemgus on Feb 12, 2017 14:28:57 GMT
So it would be kind of like Morrigan and Zevran without them falling in love with the main character? I guess it could work if done right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 15:01:52 GMT
Why would you want for others things you wouldn't want for yourself? People are just bad as they are.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 12, 2017 15:15:36 GMT
I wouldn't mind it. Or an ill-fated romance. Things go badly for whatever reason. Maybe the beloved turns out to betray the Pathfinder in some way. I know people always want happily ever after, but I like story twists. Maybe after a betrayal the Pathfinder could find the true happy ever after with someone else.
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 3:37:24 GMT
Ugh. No. Especially since it would likely be a male LI that pulls this crap if one does. Bioware loves the ill-fated romance trope with male characters especially. We've already been cheated on, dumped, betrayed, relegated to mistress status, lied to, been forced to watch while he sleeps with another woman because we asked him to, and had our lovers die on us. A big no thank you to being used for sex too.
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Post by Spooch on Feb 13, 2017 3:54:19 GMT
Sounds cool in theory, but I imagine it would just piss people off. It may be realistic, but Jacob hooking up with another girl is also realistic but nobody liked it.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 13, 2017 3:55:09 GMT
Ugh. No. Especially since it would likely be a male LI that pulls this crap if one does. Bioware loves the ill-fated romance trope with male characters especially. We've already been cheated on, dumped, betrayed, relegated to mistress status, lied to, been forced to watch while he sleeps with another woman because we asked him to, and had our lovers die on us. A big no thank you to being used for sex too. Damn now that I think about it, only Morrigan was a more shitty end romance. Well there was the DLC to fix that so does not really counts...
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Feb 13, 2017 4:01:55 GMT
Ugh. No. Especially since it would likely be a male LI that pulls this crap if one does. Bioware loves the ill-fated romance trope with male characters especially. We've already been cheated on, dumped, betrayed, relegated to mistress status, lied to, been forced to watch while he sleeps with another woman because we asked him to, and had our lovers die on us. A big no thank you to being used for sex too. You know, when you list them all together like that... Geez Inquisition alone has all four options for straight females do that depending on your playthrough (two no matter what), and some people count Dorian as this kind of thing as well. Pretty one-sided for sure As for the topic, no, I wouldn't like that. I already had my characters get rejected by Joker, Aveline, and Cass. Doesn't really add anything but disappointment.
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Post by Mir Aven on Feb 13, 2017 19:34:22 GMT
So Bioware have said some characters will want an all in romance and others more casual. I think it would be fun if one of the romances is something like you can get along and maybe even sex the person up but no matter how hard you try they will not enter into a committed relationship with our Ryder. From a story telling plae I think it would be a neat idea. The hero dose not always get the girl/boy. Wouldn't it be to realistic for some people?
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Post by Mir Aven on Feb 13, 2017 19:42:08 GMT
Ugh. No. Especially since it would likely be a male LI that pulls this crap if one does. Bioware loves the ill-fated romance trope with male characters especially. We've already been cheated on, dumped, betrayed, relegated to mistress status, lied to, been forced to watch while he sleeps with another woman because we asked him to, and had our lovers die on us. A big no thank you to being used for sex too. I was never much into romances so I don't really care but, damn, when you sum it all like that I feel bad for those that get really invested in them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 19:49:09 GMT
As far as I am concerned every non-romanced NPC is a potential unrequired love-interest. I've been having those unrequited relationships across many a BioWaRE game, from Kivan to Zenith, and I'd rather they've returned my digital feelings. It's so much nicer.... Plus, what fialka had mentioned... it's really not as much fun as it sounds when your lover suddenly minds that you are Elven, and apparently, not good enough as far as the child-birthing prospects go. It's also not as amusing as it might appear when a brilliant scientist that can render the whole race infertile in a perfect proportion, spends more time on discussing skin rashes that may come from species incompatibility your lover has with you, than the fact that he is slowly losing his ability to breathe.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 13, 2017 20:53:02 GMT
To me, any LI you're gated against can be considered unrequited. Do you mean maybe that you'd like the option to continue to flirt, even when you're let down? Or have a conversation declaring your love even though they're not interested? That could be interesting but, to me, ultimately unfulfilling.
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Post by Morrigan on Feb 13, 2017 22:54:58 GMT
So it would be kind of like Morrigan and Zevran without them falling in love with the main character? I guess it could work if done right. I love you. I was just playing hard to get.
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Post by isaidlunch on Feb 13, 2017 23:39:49 GMT
I'd like it, Samara was always my favorite romance in the trilogy even though it ended up being requited (to an extent).
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 14, 2017 1:01:33 GMT
Nah... get enough of that in real life. Don't need my pixelated waifus turning me down too!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 6:53:14 GMT
I like the idea if it was implemented in a way that actually resulted in a good sub plot, and not just a "failed" romance route. That's the problem with games doing this kind of thing. It feels like you failed. There needs to be some way that makes it feel fulfilling as a story arc for an unrequited love plot line to work. The player needs to feel like they completed something, even if they didn't get what they wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 6:53:58 GMT
Nah... get enough of that in real life. Don't need my pixelated waifus turning me down too! More than one waifu will ruin your laifu.
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Post by Vall on Feb 14, 2017 7:30:15 GMT
I like the idea if it was implemented in a way that actually resulted in a good sub plot, and not just a "failed" romance route. That's the problem with games doing this kind of thing. It feels like you failed. There needs to be some way that makes it feel fulfilling as a story arc for an unrequited love plot line to work. The player needs to feel like they completed something, even if they didn't get what they wanted. I feel like one way to do that would be that if you persist you would get a little scene where your feelings do get through in the end...though I suppose that wouldn't really be unrequitted...hmmm Yeah, I'm hopeless romantic >_<
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 7:34:59 GMT
I like the idea if it was implemented in a way that actually resulted in a good sub plot, and not just a "failed" romance route. That's the problem with games doing this kind of thing. It feels like you failed. There needs to be some way that makes it feel fulfilling as a story arc for an unrequited love plot line to work. The player needs to feel like they completed something, even if they didn't get what they wanted. I feel like one way to do that would be that if you persist you would get a little scene where your feelings do get through in the end...though I suppose that wouldn't really be unrequitted...hmmm Yeah, I'm hopeless romantic >_< Maybe if it has special scenes between your character and the one you want to romance that aren't necessarily romantic in nature, but can only be achieved through pursuing them? Like, they reach some kind of understanding where the person you're trying to romance trusts your character and cares about them a great deal, but maybe has feelings for someone else, or doesn't feel like he/she can handle a romantic relationship? Ryder could have a short scene by him/herself showing their resolve and dedication to that person while still being respectful and keeping their distance. (Also without making them look like a creep.) Maybe they could even build it up over a new trilogy, to where you could confess your feelings to that character, only for it to finally be reciprocated three games from now. That would actually be really incredible, since I don't really think a game has tried to do that before. I mean, three games where Ryder is just living their own life, rather than pursuing a romantic interest because they already have feelings for someone would be neat. Or they could die, which could leave Ryder extremely wary towards pursuing a relationship.
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Post by Vall on Feb 14, 2017 7:44:31 GMT
I feel like one way to do that would be that if you persist you would get a little scene where your feelings do get through in the end...though I suppose that wouldn't really be unrequitted...hmmm Yeah, I'm hopeless romantic >_< Maybe if it has special scenes between your character and the one you want to romance that aren't necessarily romantic in nature, but can only be achieved through pursuing them? Like, they reach some kind of understanding where the person you're trying to romance trusts your character and cares about them a great deal, but maybe has feelings for someone else, or doesn't feel like he/she can handle a romantic relationship? Ryder could have a short scene by him/herself showing their resolve and dedication to that person while still being respectful and keeping their distance. (Also without making them look like a creep.) Maybe they could even build it up over a new trilogy, to where you could confess your feelings to that character, only for it to finally be reciprocated three games from now. That would actually be really incredible, since I don't really think a game has tried to do that before. I mean, three games where Ryder is just living their own life, rather than pursuing a romantic interest because they already have feelings for someone would be neat. Or they could die, which could leave Ryder extremely wary towards pursuing a relationship. That kind of arc does (kinda) happen if you don't romance anyone until 3 and then you choose Liara, just the affections and...unrequitedness(nope, not a word either ) are directed the other way
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 7:51:28 GMT
Maybe if it has special scenes between your character and the one you want to romance that aren't necessarily romantic in nature, but can only be achieved through pursuing them? Like, they reach some kind of understanding where the person you're trying to romance trusts your character and cares about them a great deal, but maybe has feelings for someone else, or doesn't feel like he/she can handle a romantic relationship? Ryder could have a short scene by him/herself showing their resolve and dedication to that person while still being respectful and keeping their distance. (Also without making them look like a creep.) Maybe they could even build it up over a new trilogy, to where you could confess your feelings to that character, only for it to finally be reciprocated three games from now. That would actually be really incredible, since I don't really think a game has tried to do that before. I mean, three games where Ryder is just living their own life, rather than pursuing a romantic interest because they already have feelings for someone would be neat. Or they could die, which could leave Ryder extremely wary towards pursuing a relationship. That kind of arc does (kinda) happen if you don't romance anyone until 3 and then you choose Liara, just the affections and...unrequitedness(nope, not a word either ) are directed the other way I think that's kinda why people want an unrequited romance though, lol. Having everyone in the game being playersexual feels a little disingenuous. And I know all the characters in ME aren't strictly playersexual, but unless you actively try to sabotage the romance, there's no way any of them would reject you if you were playing as the right gender for them to romance.
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