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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 6, 2017 20:22:57 GMT
Geth Trooper SoldierThe_Doctor46N7 | 06 January 2017 | 16:06 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar (v) modded for pizzas or escorts. Couldn't sub,but was close. COngrats too !
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Post by Smehur on Jan 7, 2017 11:08:44 GMT
First of all, congrats to The_Doctor on the new record for the fastest plat solo! What a great way to start a new year. And now, here's the report on weapons mastery inquiry I decided that the Weapons Master title will be awarded to players who have proven to have used every weapon of the multiplayer as the primary weapon in a platinum solo. If only one weapon is carried, that's a no-brainer, right. If two weapons are carried, I'll take that whichever weapon is listed first in the submission is primary without any special effort to check, because that's how the PHOF has worked all these years and I certainly don't intend to check all the 3000+ runs that are in it already to make super-sure. If there's ever need to check a particular run because unusual circumstances (such as those that arose here), obviously a video is the best proof that a weapon was indeed used as primary. But this can also be seen from screenshots fairly easily. For example, say that someone takes Claymore and Acolyte; if they get a medal for shotgun kills, it's unlikely that they used Acolyte as primary weapon. It's far from a flawless system, but I believe it's sufficient to resolve the current issues with Weapons Mastery. We have four current holders of the title: ex-Clusum, TheNightSlasher, AW_FC_1986 and TheTechnoTurian; and one pretender: The_Doctor46N7. This is what I found after carefully looking into the records of their runs: ex-Clusum - OK (has an entry with every weapon as the primary weapon) TheNightSlasher - missed entries for 5 weapons at first glance. I was able to find records of his plat solos with 4 of these 5 in themed challenges archives, so now he misses only 1 (N7 Eagle). However, he also has 30 recorded plat solos with 'unknown' weapon (back in the day the weapons weren't a necessary part of a submission), and the Eagle run could very well be among them. Unless there are strong objections, I'm inclined to pronounce that TNS is also OK in terms of Weapons Mastery. AW_FC_1986 - missed entries for 12 weapons at first glance. I was able to fix one record that mixed up the primary and secondary weapons (for the Ariake run, where he used Shuriken but the PHOF listed Scimitar as primary). So he now misses 11 entries, for following weapons: - Collector Rifle
- Geth Plasma SMG
- M-15 Vindicator
- M-22 Eviscerator
- M-25 Hornet
- M-27 Scimitar
- M-29 Incisor
- M-55 Argus
- M-8 Avenger
- M-9 Tempest
- Scorpion
Since AW doesn't have any recorded runs with 'unknown' weapons, I can't resort to the same save as above and must conclude that he doesn't satisfy the requirements for the title of Weapons Master. TheTechnoTurian - OK (has an entry with every weapon as the primary weapon) The_Doctor46N7 - missed entries for 14 weapons at first glance. I was able to fix 2 records that mixed up primary and secondary weapons (for 183 Pull-ups, where he used Katana but the PHOF listed Revenant as primary; and for The Intangible is Unstoppable, where he used Carnifex but the PHOF listed Phaeston as primary). So now he misses 12 entries, for following weapons: - ADAS Anti-Synthetic Rifle
- Collector Sniper Rifle
- Geth Spitfire
- Krysae Sniper Rifle
- M-13 Raptor
- M-15 Vindicator
- M-25 Hornet
- M-27 Scimitar
- M-29 Incisor
- M-55 Argus
- M-9 Tempest
- Scorpion
Since Doc doesn't have any recorded runs with 'unknown' weapons either, I have to conclude that he doesn't satisfy the requirements for the title of Weapons Master. For anyone interested in details of my research and decisions, I gathered all the 'problem' runs in a spreadsheet that you can view or download here. The current records of the PHOF can at any time be searched here. Now a DISCLAIMER: This report is based on the contents of the PHOF spreadsheet, which doesn't necessarily correspond 100% to the contents of the halls of fame as they are seen on the site. There may be runs on the site that aren't contained in the speadsheet, and the other way around. I tried to check both to my best ability but I can't be sure I didn't miss anything. I'll be happy to fix any errors one of you might find in this sense. Also, to be clear, I did not look into anyone's private archives (such as youtube channels and the like) to search for missing weapons, and I'm not going to. If there's a run that hasn't been submitted, please submit it. Or if it's been submitted but hasn't been archived (for which cases I apologize), please re-submit it. The conclusions of this post will enter the next PHOF update; until then, you're all welcome to complain discuss. CC: doh, TheNightSlasher, AW_FC_1986, @thetechnoturian, muahmuah
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 7, 2017 11:44:48 GMT
Huge work Smehur, i hope u have a way to generate those doc like spreadsheet automatically or at least quickly?
Maybe The Doc counts on aka Miranda submissions ? He submitted most of them as miranda afaik, but maybe you replaced all that miranda stuff in the spreadsheet
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 7, 2017 11:53:48 GMT
First,great job Smehur and second i have a plat solo with vindicator HERE(week 7) you can find it.I will search for other weapons.If you've missed something i will report.
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Post by doh on Jan 7, 2017 12:34:55 GMT
TheNightSlasher's thing. (last post on the page) His vids are naturally down but if you're going to accept screenshots then a video that doesn't exist is about as trustworthy. He wrote GPS as the first weapon listed but probably only brought it due to wave 9 collectors, it's not exactly better than eagle on tsol against collectorshitarmortrashjunk.
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Post by Smehur on Jan 7, 2017 14:26:42 GMT
Huge work Smehur, i hope u have a way to generate those doc like spreadsheet automatically or at least quickly? Maybe The Doc counts on aka Miranda submissions ? He submitted most of them as miranda afaik, but maybe you replaced all that miranda stuff in the spreadsheet Yeah, I can query the spreadsheets for such info. Most work went into comparing PHOF and TCHOF entries and staring at screenshots. Great care was taken (both before my time and now) to keep the names of frequent soloists up to date in the spreadsheet, so no, no runs were missed on account of different names.
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Post by Smehur on Jan 7, 2017 14:54:06 GMT
First,great job Smehur and second i have a plat solo with vindicator HERE(week 7) you can find it.I will search for other weapons.If you've missed something i will report. That run is indexed in the PHOF already, but with Mattock, according to the requirements of the challenge, which are: "Human Adept (only Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-15 Vindicator (Hardcore) or M-96 Mattock (Insanity)". If you're sure you did it with Vindicator, I'll change the entry.
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 7, 2017 15:10:38 GMT
First,great job Smehur and second i have a plat solo with vindicator HERE(week 7) you can find it.I will search for other weapons.If you've missed something i will report. That run is indexed in the PHOF already, but with Mattock, according to the requirements of the challenge, which are: "Human Adept (only Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-15 Vindicator (Hardcore) or M-96 Mattock (Insanity)". If you're sure you did it with Vindicator, I'll change the entry. I used vindicator,because i hate mattock,so feel free to change
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Post by mordokai on Jan 7, 2017 17:44:02 GMT
Congrats on a new world record doc What was the old one? Wishing you all the best on your hunt for sub 16, though I think at this point, it's not so much about skill(of which you already displayed plenty), rather than luck.
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 7, 2017 18:27:30 GMT
Congrats on a new world record doc What was the old one? Wishing you all the best on your hunt for sub 16, though I think at this point, it's not so much about skill(of which you already displayed plenty), rather than luck. Thank you!The old record was 16:12 min and i agree that at this point everything is all about luck with the spawns and with the location of the pizzas or the lenghts of the escorts.All you need is grinding,but sometimes is very dsiapointing and booring.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 7, 2017 19:38:57 GMT
Congrats on a new world record doc What was the old one? Wishing you all the best on your hunt for sub 16, though I think at this point, it's not so much about skill(of which you already displayed plenty), rather than luck. Yeah well, for those 3-5 speed runner God, it s about luck, for us mortal, even with max luck, I wld stay above 20'
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Post by AW_FC_1986 on Jan 7, 2017 20:15:56 GMT
Looks like I have to do Blasteroid with the Avenger. Or maybe not and do something else
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 7, 2017 20:28:28 GMT
Looks like I have to do Blasteroid with the Avenger. Or maybe not and do something else If you are a masochist,then boldly go,but if you are not, do something else.
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Post by Lvca on Jan 7, 2017 20:54:53 GMT
Geth Trooper Soldier Lvca_gr | 7 January 2017 | 19:38 | Glacier | Cerberus | Reegar | Modded (only deliveries) Went the maximum cheese route to sub20, and I finally arrived. There's video as well, but I probably won't upload it unless requested because it's crappy gameplay with horrible nuking and a boring kit+weapon combo. Now I can retire happy
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Post by AW_FC_1986 on Jan 7, 2017 23:06:07 GMT
Also, I used the CSMG for ariake instead of the shuriken for the insanity version, so I still have to do 12 weapons.
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Post by srgtcolon on Jan 7, 2017 23:44:53 GMT
Drell Adeptsrgtcolon | Jan 7 2017 | 41:41 | Giant Hazard | Cerberus | Venom & Hurricane (v) (I hate the Venom now.) Devices Targets Pizza Drell Assassin Infiltratorsrgtcolon | Jan 5 2017 | 32:49 | Giant | Cerberus | Black Widow [no rockets] (v) Targets Hack Devices
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Krogan SoldierN7-Gerbil | Jan 7 2017 | 18:31 | White | Cerberus | Reegar (v) The video will be there someday. Techno convinced me to use a tryhard split timer so it will contain that as well.
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Asari Valkyrie - Non-RocketTheTechnoTurian | Jan 8 2017 | 29:59 | White | Cerberus | AT-12 Raider (v) rockets are too difficult, I did a solo where I accidentally used all of them by w2 prior to this so decided maybe they are a responsibility I am not ready to handle That was... totally and utterly awesome. It's funny how, despite doc's speedrun being almost twice as fast as yours, it didn't really felt like much difference. Might have something to do with my skewed time perception lately. Of course, Valkyrie shaking her booty for half an hour didn't hurt neither
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Post by docsteely on Jan 8, 2017 15:59:49 GMT
Asari Valkyrie - Non-RocketTheTechnoTurian | Jan 8 2017 | 29:59 | White | Cerberus | AT-12 Raider (v) rockets are too difficult, I did a solo where I accidentally used all of them by w2 prior to this so decided maybe they are a responsibility I am not ready to handle Very nice run! But please don't call the ecstasy of rage nuking accidental. I really would like to meet one person on this thread who did not (or at least feel the need to) break a keyboard playing this game. P.S. Your dancing around the Atlas is impressive!
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Drell Assassin The_Doctor46N7 | 08 January 2017 | 25:48 | White | Cerberus | Collector Sniper Rifle The_Doctor46N7 | 08 January 2017 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | M-29 Incisor Proof 1 and Proof 2 Did those runs for the missing weapons thing.I don't like those weapons,but they are not that bad with DAI.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 8, 2017 19:34:22 GMT
The_Doctor46N7 | 08 January 2017 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | M-29 Incisor How s that even possible ! I should retry incisor maybe, but i fear it still really sucks
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 8, 2017 19:45:08 GMT
Glorious Fat TSentAlfonsedode | 07 January 2017 | 45:51 | White | Geth | Arc pistol [v]I have a first 720p vid for this, but it takes forever to upload home so that it broke at 55%. I ll retry at work just to see how that goes. Had a few runs on White unknown, settled on arc pistol (AR sucked or were to heavy), and had to be conservative to pull it off. Obj were Device Escort Pizza, Target W10 wld have kill me. EDIT : lol, i again forgot to mention the character , now with the vid.
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The_Doctor46N7 | 08 January 2017 | 22:02 | White | Cerberus | M-29 Incisor How s that even possible ! I should retry incisor maybe, but i fear i still really sucks Equip disruptor ammo and targeting instead sniper rails and you will be fine.At least it was my equipment. Also nuke out 5 wave,otherwise will be very bad for you.
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