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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 24, 2017 1:05:33 GMT
So... I gotta thank you guys. The Venom shotgun is more awesome than I ever knew. I tried it with the Salarian infiltrator first. It was pretty fun. Then I tried it with the Batarian/Krogan soldier. They totally wreck faces with it. Phantoms are a joke with this gun. I then tried it with the Fury... and as if I didn't love her enough. I think I love her even more. She becomes so much more fun with this gun. What I love in particular is that I don't need to carry the Acolyte with several characters just to deal with Phantoms. Thanks a lot to everyone who recommended that gun. You finally discovered the real "high lord". A better question is, why don't more people use this gun? When I play with randoms on 360, I almost never see anyone use the Venom. Its a really good weapon overall and it fits any class/character as you guys said. And while the Fury was always my favorite character, and I think there are a lot of builds that are super fun, the Fury with the Venom is by far my favorite in the game. So I owe you guys for helping me find my favorite build.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 24, 2017 4:39:11 GMT
You finally discovered the real "high lord". A better question is, why don't more people use this gun? When I play with randoms on 360, I almost never see anyone use the Venom. Its a really good weapon overall and it fits any class/character as you guys said. And while the Fury was always my favorite character, and I think there are a lot of builds that are super fun, the Fury with the Venom is by far my favorite in the game. So I owe you guys for helping me find my favorite build. Venom doesn't work well off host as every projectile weapon.The game doesn't register some of the shots.On a very bad host form 3 shots,only one works even with fully charged gun.Another reason is that some of the PUGs can't use it properly.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 24, 2017 13:36:48 GMT
A better question is, why don't more people use this gun? When I play with randoms on 360, I almost never see anyone use the Venom. Its a really good weapon overall and it fits any class/character as you guys said. And while the Fury was always my favorite character, and I think there are a lot of builds that are super fun, the Fury with the Venom is by far my favorite in the game. So I owe you guys for helping me find my favorite build. Venom doesn't work well off host as every projectile weapon.The game doesn't register some of the shots.On a very bad host form 3 shots,only one works even with fully charged gun.Another reason is that some of the PUGs can't use it properly. Also, Doc, do not forget you actually need 2learn2Venom and that when you're using it, snipers will run away from you...
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Post by larsdt on Oct 24, 2017 14:08:54 GMT
Venom doesn't work well off host as every projectile weapon.The game doesn't register some of the shots.On a very bad host form 3 shots,only one works even with fully charged gun.Another reason is that some of the PUGs can't use it properly. Also, Doc, do not forget you actually need 2learn2Venom and that when you're using it, snipers will run away from you... All words of wisdom. I'll just add that it is probably one of the most discouraging weapons to use if you don't know it's strengths. I would imagine a lot of players going "WTH is this - I can do more dmg with a Katana" and therefore giving up on it quickly.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 24, 2017 14:09:15 GMT
Venom doesn't work well off host as every projectile weapon.The game doesn't register some of the shots.On a very bad host form 3 shots,only one works even with fully charged gun.Another reason is that some of the PUGs can't use it properly. Also, Doc, do not forget you actually need 2learn2Venom and that when you're using it, snipers will run away from you... Not true,not,but everybody's different.If you can aim,you just can,no matter if you use venom too much or not.You can't forget it in my opinion.
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Post by DistigousForest on Oct 24, 2017 20:51:24 GMT
You finally discovered the real "high lord". A better question is, why don't more people use this gun? When I play with randoms on 360, I almost never see anyone use the Venom. Its a really good weapon overall and it fits any class/character as you guys said. And while the Fury was always my favorite character, and I think there are a lot of builds that are super fun, the Fury with the Venom is by far my favorite in the game. So I owe you guys for helping me find my favorite build. It's one of the tougher weapons to use and isn't one of the "sexier" guns like the Claymore or Wraith or Javelin. It's also a bit lacking against Atlases, but that's my only real complaint. Lately, I've been having a hard time not using it because it's so good.
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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 24, 2017 22:03:34 GMT
Also, Doc, do not forget you actually need 2learn2Venom and that when you're using it, snipers will run away from you... All words of wisdom. I'll just add that it is probably one of the most discouraging weapons to use if you don't know it's strengths. I would imagine a lot of players going "WTH is this - I can do more dmg with a Katana" and therefore giving up on it quickly. This was actually me. I tried it a few times and didn't get what was so great about it. I tried it with the Demolisher Engineer and just decided to stick with the Crusader for her. But then again I only had it at level 1 at that point. Maybe its better now that I have it at level 5? When you guys told me its "omg amazing" I decided to try it on an infiltrator to be safe. And that is where I started noticing how good it was. I now enjoying playing the Krogan Sentinel a lot more because I don't have to carry an Acolyte with him for Phantoms. And when I tried it on the Fury, I had a handle on the weapon. That was when I realized how much more fun it makes her.
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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 24, 2017 22:08:40 GMT
A better question is, why don't more people use this gun? When I play with randoms on 360, I almost never see anyone use the Venom. Its a really good weapon overall and it fits any class/character as you guys said. And while the Fury was always my favorite character, and I think there are a lot of builds that are super fun, the Fury with the Venom is by far my favorite in the game. So I owe you guys for helping me find my favorite build. It's one of the tougher weapons to use and isn't one of the "sexier" guns like the Claymore or Wraith or Javelin. It's also a bit lacking against Atlases, but that's my only real complaint. Lately, I've been having a hard time not using it because it's so good. I noticed outside of Banshees/Scions, the gun isn't great on some bosses like Praetorians and Atlases. It seems weak against bosess with shields like Primes and Atlas. Since I generally use Warp ammo with the Fury, armor isn't a problem. I'm also not sure what you mean by "sexier" because outside of the Javelin I'm not so keen on either the Wraith or Claymore. I may be doing something wrong, but neither weapon really felt all that great to me despite how much love they got. The Wraith in particular doesn't seem like it does a ton of damage based on how few rounds its got. Or I could once again be missing something about how they are used.
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Post by RoystonVasey63 on Oct 24, 2017 23:47:02 GMT
It's one of the tougher weapons to use and isn't one of the "sexier" guns like the Claymore or Wraith or Javelin. It's also a bit lacking against Atlases, but that's my only real complaint. Lately, I've been having a hard time not using it because it's so good. I noticed outside of Banshees/Scions, the gun isn't great on some bosses like Praetorians and Atlases. It seems weak against bosess with shields like Primes and Atlas. Since I generally use Warp ammo with the Fury, armor isn't a problem. I'm also not sure what you mean by "sexier" because outside of the Javelin I'm not so keen on either the Wraith or Claymore. I may be doing something wrong, but neither weapon really felt all that great to me despite how much love they got. The Wraith in particular doesn't seem like it does a ton of damage based on how few rounds its got. Or I could once again be missing something about how they are used. Well, for the Wraith, I like to use it on the Salarian Infiltrator with Smart Choke, High-Velocity Barrel and Incendiary rounds. It's surprisingly accurate at range and does a healthy dose of damage too. Sweet. A drawback with the Wraith is that there's no reload cancel to speak of (and it's a moderately slow reload) and only two shots. I think it should hold three shots in each clip, and then RV63 = . As to the Claymore - that thing's a beast and I need more practice with it.
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Post by DistigousForest on Oct 25, 2017 2:02:50 GMT
It's one of the tougher weapons to use and isn't one of the "sexier" guns like the Claymore or Wraith or Javelin. It's also a bit lacking against Atlases, but that's my only real complaint. Lately, I've been having a hard time not using it because it's so good. I noticed outside of Banshees/Scions, the gun isn't great on some bosses like Praetorians and Atlases. It seems weak against bosess with shields like Primes and Atlas. Since I generally use Warp ammo with the Fury, armor isn't a problem. I'm also not sure what you mean by "sexier" because outside of the Javelin I'm not so keen on either the Wraith or Claymore. I may be doing something wrong, but neither weapon really felt all that great to me despite how much love they got. The Wraith in particular doesn't seem like it does a ton of damage based on how few rounds its got. Or I could once again be missing something about how they are used. Sexier would be those high damage weapons that you always see like the Black Widow, Wraith, Javelin, etc. The Wraith is the 2nd best shotgun in the game after the Venom. It's incredibly light, it's accurate out to range (don't necessarily need the Smart Choke on it), and does a ton of damage. It's got a weird refire rate and reload time, but once you get the hang of it it's not an issue. It also sounds like your shooting tin cans. One of the most powerful kits I run is a 66644 vanilla Human Adept with the Wraith and either incendiary or warp ammo. It's great on every kit just like the Venom, but even lighter and will one shot most mooks and captains as far as I know. The Claymore is my favorite weapon in the game and nothing, save the Venom, comes close. It's not the easiest to use, but when you figure it out it's a headshot machine. Timing and strafing and using the strafe to fine tune the shots are the keys to using it on console for consistant headshots. It really excels once you get the reload cancel down and when you do you can just steamroll groups of enemies. Drellgod, any infiltrator, most soldiers and/or sentinels, even some adapts (Human Adept, Shaman, Drell, vanilla AA, Batdept) are pretty damn good with a Claymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 9:09:10 GMT
^DistigousForest said it well, he just got the ranking wrong : the Wraith is the best shotgun in the game and one of the 3 best weapons (the Venom is admittedly better for solos against Cerberus and for some CQC kits like the Fury). Its reload is relatively fast so its only real drawback is its low rate of fire, a problem lowered by its ability to one-hit kill most non-bosses.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 25, 2017 10:52:06 GMT
Wraith My favorite weapon.
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Post by DistigousForest on Oct 25, 2017 11:45:42 GMT
^DistigousForest said it well, he just got the ranking wrong : the Wraith is the best shotgun in the game and one of the 3 best weapons (the Venom is admittedly better for solos against Cerberus and for some CQC kits like the Fury). Its reload is relatively fast so its only real drawback is its low rate of fire, a problem lowered by its ability to one-hit kill most non-bosses. The weird fire delay works really well on the HA, which is why I love it on that character. Probably very similar on the HE and other power combo kits with powers on with like cooldowns. It's got a really nice rhythm with shoot>warp>shoot>shockwave>reload cancel with another power>shoot ad infinitum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 23:09:44 GMT
FuryTheTechnoTurian | Oct 21 2017 | 27:35 | White | Reapers | Claymore this is the only weapon I like on this kit pretty much
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Post by larsdt on Oct 26, 2017 23:10:26 GMT
Some more scrub cheese but against toaster stagger, ridiculous mook dps, flippin' phantoms and warp balls following you around half the map, I need all the help I can get Turian Ghost Infiltrator larsdt | 26 October 2017 | 100:31 | Giant | Reapers | Lancer Devices - Escort - Hack Survived the first 4 waves on crutch nades alone, so all in all a little progress.
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Post by larsdt on Oct 27, 2017 0:04:36 GMT
FuryTheTechnoTurian | Oct 21 2017 | 27:35 | White | Reapers | Claymore this is the only weapon I like on this kit pretty much A thing of beauty. (Also the gameplay )
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Krogan VanguardDocSteely | Oct 27 2017 | 40:04 | White | Geth | Reegar | 10WS Escort - Escort - Hack Yes, Doc, I know, wrong character, map, difficulty and weapon, but it's my best time and 10WS and most important, for once, NO DEVICES!!!
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Krogan VanguardDocSteely | Oct 27 2017 | 40:04 | White | Geth | Reegar | 10WS Yes, Doc, I know, wrong character, map, difficulty and weapon, but it's my best time and 10WS and most important, for once, NO DEVICES!!! Nothing wrong here,Doc.Congrats on your fastest time.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 27, 2017 12:04:44 GMT
Krogan VanguardDocSteely | Oct 27 2017 | 40:04 | White | Geth | Reegar | 10WS Yes, Doc, I know, wrong character, map, difficulty and weapon, but it's my best time and 10WS and most important, for once, NO DEVICES!!! Nothing wrong here,Doc.Congrats on your fastest time. Was joking, Doc and you forgot the most important part: no devices...
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 27, 2017 12:26:13 GMT
Nothing wrong here,Doc.Congrats on your fastest time. Was joking, Doc and you forgot the most important part: no devices... With that character/weapon combo,everything is acceptable,but yeah,no devices is a very good thing.
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Drell VanaguardThe_Doctor46N7 | 27 October 2017 | 23:30 | White | Cerberus | Wraith (v) WRAITH !!!
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Post by docsteely on Oct 27, 2017 18:31:26 GMT
Drell VanaguardThe_Doctor46N7 | 27 October 2017 | 23:30 | White | Cerberus | Wraith (v) WRAITH !!! You would have done better with the High Lord, Doc, but OK... That phantroll at 2:45 how did she get there? Cluster Nade?
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Drell VanaguardThe_Doctor46N7 | 27 October 2017 | 23:30 | White | Cerberus | Wraith (v) WRAITH !!! You would have done better with the High Lord, Doc, but OK... That phantroll at 2:45 how did she get there? Cluster Nade? Already done,Doc.24 and something with Claymore.This run could have been faster,but damn phantroll and engineers on 1 and 2 wave trolled me.High Lord can't be that fast. As for the phantroll,yes probably the clusters are guilty.
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Post by q5tyhj on Oct 29, 2017 6:54:19 GMT
All words of wisdom. I'll just add that it is probably one of the most discouraging weapons to use if you don't know it's strengths. I would imagine a lot of players going "WTH is this - I can do more dmg with a Katana" and therefore giving up on it quickly. This was actually me. I tried it a few times and didn't get what was so great about it. I tried it with the Demolisher Engineer and just decided to stick with the Crusader for her. But then again I only had it at level 1 at that point. Maybe its better now that I have it at level 5? When you guys told me its "omg amazing" I decided to try it on an infiltrator to be safe. And that is where I started noticing how good it was. I now enjoying playing the Krogan Sentinel a lot more because I don't have to carry an Acolyte with him for Phantoms. And when I tried it on the Fury, I had a handle on the weapon. That was when I realized how much more fun it makes her. Yep, Venom makes every kit even more awesome. Like the Fury? Just wait til you try it with Venom. Think the KroSent is pretty badass? Venom. BatSol? Venom. Justicar? Venom. It literally works for every kit in the game: however awesome it is, its even more awesome with Venom. Once you realize this, you have attained the ME3mp version of enlightenment.
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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 29, 2017 11:07:19 GMT
This was actually me. I tried it a few times and didn't get what was so great about it. I tried it with the Demolisher Engineer and just decided to stick with the Crusader for her. But then again I only had it at level 1 at that point. Maybe its better now that I have it at level 5? When you guys told me its "omg amazing" I decided to try it on an infiltrator to be safe. And that is where I started noticing how good it was. I now enjoying playing the Krogan Sentinel a lot more because I don't have to carry an Acolyte with him for Phantoms. And when I tried it on the Fury, I had a handle on the weapon. That was when I realized how much more fun it makes her. Yep, Venom makes every kit even more awesome. Like the Fury? Just wait til you try it with Venom. Think the KroSent is pretty badass? Venom. BatSol? Venom. Justicar? Venom. It literally works for every kit in the game: however awesome it is, its even more awesome with Venom. Once you realize this, you have attained the ME3mp version of enlightenment. Yup, pretty much. But I wouldn't use it with EVERY class. That's a sure fire way to make the gun boring really quickly. Part of what makes ME3MP so replayable is that there are so many different ways you can play a build. On top of that, I am also discovering how awesome certain characters are after building them differently. Dunno what I was thinking saying the Quarian males were boring. They are so much better than the females (even if I prefer the females because of dat accent and dem hips). I personally am really like the Quarian male engineer and infiltrators. And I also dunno what crack I was smoking when I said the Claymore didn't do anything for me. I tried it with the Quarian Infiltrator and does this gun put in work. I must have not used the right mods or didn't have it at a high enough level (its at level 10 now). I also put it on the Krogan Sentinel and now I feel like the fearsome Krogan I was always meant to be. Sure I have to carry the Acolyte around for Phantoms, but still. I am warming to the Wraith a little more, but I still find it underwhelming and not as fun as other shotguns though. Dunno if level matters but its at level 5 for me currently.
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