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Post by jaison1986 on May 3, 2017 12:17:56 GMT
Dark ritual. I already lost too much for the bloody wardens. So yeah, I took the selfish way out just to spite them I've heard several times this same argument over the old BioWare forum and it never made sense to me. Blaming the GW for the protagonist's own efforts makes no sense. After Ostagar Duncan was dead,and since he was dead he was unable to force anyone (much less the PC) to fight the blight,so why now you are blaming the GW for something they never did? If some players here had no intention to follow the mandate of being a GW(which includes the US because without it the Dragon doesn't die) they should have left at Lothering(The Order would have believed that they were dead in Ostagar and would have never tried to find them)rather than making all the efforts to finish the game only to blame the GW,but I guess it has become a consolidate fashion to use the GW as scapegoats,both inside and outside the games. Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks. With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 3, 2017 12:24:33 GMT
I've heard several times this same argument over the old BioWare forum and it never made sense to me. Blaming the GW for the protagonist's own efforts makes no sense. After Ostagar Duncan was dead,and since he was dead he was unable to force anyone (much less the PC) to fight the blight,so why now you are blaming the GW for something they never did? If some players here had no intention to follow the mandate of being a GW(which includes the US because without it the Dragon doesn't die) they should have left at Lothering(The Order would have believed that they were dead in Ostagar and would have never tried to find them)rather than making all the efforts to finish the game only to blame the GW,but I guess it has become a consolidate fashion to use the GW as scapegoats,both inside and outside the games. Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks. With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon. Exactly. Not technically the kind of people that would give up their life, their very own right to live, breathe, and do whatever they want that they couldn't do otherwise in death, even if it would have some kind of vague, incomprehensible consequence in the far-flung future. Also, if you consider that the Warden has the option to hunt Morrigan down in Witch Hunt, it makes the Dark Ritual much more justifiable. Reckless, but again, these are opportunist douchebags here - especially the dwarf noble who escaped exile through the Grey Wardens. Anyone who thinks otherwise might as well be as naive as Cailan, daydreaming of would-be heroes who ride into the sunset. Look how that boy turned out, all strung up and eaten by wolves.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 3, 2017 12:36:49 GMT
I think it was an impossible choice to not pick when it comes to Wardens as emotional as her. You've gotta be some kind of stoic self-sacrificing hero to not take the dark ritual route. So, it requires to be a Stoic hero in order to reject something as reckless as the DR?Nosense. Even with the evil Warden that I had made for fun I've rejected it,on the ground that there was the chance of the "purified old god soul" being able to emitt the calling and luring darkspawns on the surface post blight,because that's what untainted old gods do all the time,emitt the calling. Obviously a risk most players don't even care about to ponderate because they take everything for granted. Also, if your so-called "evil Warden" really cared about a future Blight happening due to the Baby Old God, then he might not be that evil after all. A Blight happening brings several opportunities to an evil Warden, not the least of which is the prize of more killing, more violence, and more mayhem. If the Archdemon could be defeated once, then it can again. A neglectful, or even a slothful Warden, or even a Warden who's just a bit of a psychopathic killer, wouldn't pass up the opportunity to scheme a little homecoming for this newborn Baby-God. Honestly, this conversation reminds me of those purist RPGers who wouldn't back down because their lore was tarnished in blasphemy, in spite of their inability to think outside the box.
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Post by Abraxas on May 3, 2017 15:44:49 GMT
Done all in my playthroughs, and I do them as I roleplay each Warden.
With my first Warden (therefore, the one I consider "my canon") did the DR. I will be honest here: someone spoiled me the ending, and I didn't wanted my first character to die (as I was thrilled with the idea of playing Awakening). So, roleplaying-wise, my Kallian convinced Alistair to fuck Morrigan just because of that: she didn't wanted to die.
She didn't thought of the consequences of such vile act on the poor baby soul (that, in DA:I ended to be none... the boy was completely normal). She only thought that she was conscripted, forced to be GW, and while is cool to be a hero, is more cool to be a hero who lives to tell the tale. Selfish, but realistic. Not every person in the world is Jesus, wanting to save the world for altruistic reasons.
As for my own thoughts of the DR, heck, is a friggin' game. My friends and I have "done" worse things in our D&D campaigns...
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Post by Iddy on May 3, 2017 16:03:17 GMT
I've heard several times this same argument over the old BioWare forum and it never made sense to me. Blaming the GW for the protagonist's own efforts makes no sense. After Ostagar Duncan was dead,and since he was dead he was unable to force anyone (much less the PC) to fight the blight,so why now you are blaming the GW for something they never did? If some players here had no intention to follow the mandate of being a GW(which includes the US because without it the Dragon doesn't die) they should have left at Lothering(The Order would have believed that they were dead in Ostagar and would have never tried to find them)rather than making all the efforts to finish the game only to blame the GW,but I guess it has become a consolidate fashion to use the GW as scapegoats,both inside and outside the games. Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks.
With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon. The bolded still is your choice. You technically could've left after Ostagar.
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Post by Catilina on May 3, 2017 18:27:19 GMT
It depends on what it thinks fit "good outcome"... An elven god who has merged with an old god and wish to kill all mortals? How is that good? I thought the sacrifice of DAO was there just for drama sake,I didn't expected that it had the power to prevent something like this. I think, more interesting, than just a simple elven demigod.
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Post by oyabun on May 3, 2017 19:11:20 GMT
I've heard several times this same argument over the old BioWare forum and it never made sense to me. Blaming the GW for the protagonist's own efforts makes no sense. After Ostagar Duncan was dead,and since he was dead he was unable to force anyone (much less the PC) to fight the blight,so why now you are blaming the GW for something they never did? If some players here had no intention to follow the mandate of being a GW(which includes the US because without it the Dragon doesn't die) they should have left at Lothering(The Order would have believed that they were dead in Ostagar and would have never tried to find them)rather than making all the efforts to finish the game only to blame the GW,but I guess it has become a consolidate fashion to use the GW as scapegoats,both inside and outside the games. Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks. With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon. Well,why don't you ask to Duncan to leave you to die in the Origin? You don't want to have anything to do with the GW right? So you may as well accept death in the Origin,since Duncan doesn't need to save you.
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Post by jaison1986 on May 3, 2017 19:16:37 GMT
Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks. With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon. Well,why don't you ask to Duncan to leave you die in the Origin? You like being saved but don't like the price to pay for it. My human noble needed no saving. He made his way to safety just fine without Duncan. Maybe you forgot me saying how this "price" was kept hidden till the last second?
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Post by oyabun on May 3, 2017 19:17:54 GMT
Well,why don't you ask to Duncan to leave you die in the Origin? You like being saved but don't like the price to pay for it. My human noble needed no saving. He made his way to safety just fine without Duncan. Maybe you forgot me saying how this "price" was kept hidden till the last second? Except that's false,because HN dies without Duncan.
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Post by jaison1986 on May 3, 2017 19:21:41 GMT
My human noble needed no saving. He made his way to safety just fine without Duncan. Maybe you forgot me saying how this "price" was kept hidden till the last second? Except that's false,because HN dies without Duncan. really? With what evidence? Unlike, say, a dalish elf or dwarf commoner, there is no confirmation whatsover about Cousland dying.
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Post by Prince on May 3, 2017 19:24:18 GMT
My human noble needed no saving. He made his way to safety just fine without Duncan. Maybe you forgot me saying how this "price" was kept hidden till the last second? The US was kept a secret until the ending because that's what the writers wanted in order to support Morrigan and her stupid DR subplot,not because of the GW. May she meet the mercy of the murder knife.
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Post by jaison1986 on May 3, 2017 19:26:09 GMT
My human noble needed no saving. He made his way to safety just fine without Duncan. Maybe you forgot me saying how this "price" was kept hidden till the last second? The US was kept a secret until the ending because that's what the writers wanted in order to support Morrigan and her stupid DR subplot,not because of the GW. May she meet the mercy of the murder knife. I'm talking about the joining, not the US.
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Post by oyabun on May 3, 2017 19:27:17 GMT
Except that's false,because HN dies without Duncan. really? With what evidence? Unlike, say, a dalish elf or dwarf commoner, there is no confirmation whatsover about Cousland dying. With the evidence that they die if their Origin was not selected(just like any other potential warden),because Duncan was not there.
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Post by Prince on May 3, 2017 21:42:28 GMT
Grey warden duties on themselves are not a problem for me. It's bearable. What I blame the grey wardens is to trick me into joining and then lying about the nature of the joining untill the last second. And then here is the warden, hopelessly tainted, fated to suffer constant nightmares and not living past their 50's. And then later, I'm told now that I'm expected to sacrifice myself for an order that completely screwed me over. AND, to add insult to injury, my only fellow warden is a whiny kid that thinks all this shit is great and will get all touchy if I ever dare to say that this whole "being a grey warden" thing sucks. With all of that in mind, I believe I'm 100% justified in being resentful of the wardens. What actually shocks me is all those people going "I can't believe they made the wardens bad in Inquisition, they are heroes!", and I'm like, they never were that at all. At best they are opportunist douchbags that happens to be the only ones that can slay the archdemon. Exactly. Not technically the kind of people that would give up their life, their very own right to live, breathe, and do whatever they want that they couldn't do otherwise in death, even if it would have some kind of vague, incomprehensible consequence in the far-flung future. Also, if you consider that the Warden has the option to hunt Morrigan down in Witch Hunt, it makes the Dark Ritual much more justifiable. Reckless, but again, these are opportunist douchebags here - especially the dwarf noble who escaped exile through the Grey Wardens. Anyone who thinks otherwise might as well be as naive as Cailan, daydreaming of would-be heroes who ride into the sunset. Look how that boy turned out, all strung up and eaten by wolves. Rarely I've heard that much nonsense in a single post.I wonder if I should spend the time to debunk it. 1)Those who do not want to follow the mandate of being a GW have no right whatsoever in demanding Duncan's help,so their fate would have been death in the Origin. 2)The vague incomprehensible consequences of the DR are the following: a)Possible calling coming from it. b)Possible AD c)Possible end of the world by Solas. Indeed they are vague and incomprensibile 3)Of course....hunting Morrigan in WH it's kinda of a metagaming reason(thus nosense by default) and the player is unable to do anything in that DLC. 4)One of the greatest mistake of DR players is to believe that whoever negated the DR is some kind of idealistic Hero(you equated them to the like of Cailain),well here is an update for you.I'm one of those who has negated it,and rather than playing WH to waste my time I would have rather taken the opportunity to massacrate Morrigan limb from limb and make her eat her own spinal cord in Redclieffe,I wonder isn't that so idealistic?Afterall if I murdered an Old God why I should let her escape tthe judgment? Gaider has saved her,that's why she got the idealistic salvation from her definitive death.
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Post by Harpie Lady on May 3, 2017 22:11:18 GMT
Morrigan' skull does make for a wonderful drinking goblet. It's kinda hard being idealistic when I have both murdered Urthemiel and gutted Morrigan like a sow.... I'm like Cailan,Glorius!
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Post by Abraxas on May 3, 2017 22:27:28 GMT
Knowing Bioware, the possible end of the world by Eggman will happen regardless if you did the Dark Ritual or not. In fact, the DR will add very little to the plan of the Egg.
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Post by Mark7 on May 3, 2017 22:38:53 GMT
Knowing Bioware, the possible end of the world by Eggman will happen regardless if you did the Dark Ritual or not. In fact, the DR will add very little to the plan of the Egg. I wouldn't underestimate Weekes creativity.Solas and friends not having AD soul is already a big difference.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 4, 2017 3:04:35 GMT
Exactly. Not technically the kind of people that would give up their life, their very own right to live, breathe, and do whatever they want that they couldn't do otherwise in death, even if it would have some kind of vague, incomprehensible consequence in the far-flung future. Also, if you consider that the Warden has the option to hunt Morrigan down in Witch Hunt, it makes the Dark Ritual much more justifiable. Reckless, but again, these are opportunist douchebags here - especially the dwarf noble who escaped exile through the Grey Wardens. Anyone who thinks otherwise might as well be as naive as Cailan, daydreaming of would-be heroes who ride into the sunset. Look how that boy turned out, all strung up and eaten by wolves. Rarely I've heard that much nonsense in a single post.I wonder if I should spend the time to debunk it. 1)Those who do not want to follow the mandate of being a GW have no right whatsoever in demanding Duncan's help,so their fate would have been death in the Origin. 2)The vague incomprehensible consequences of the DR are the following: a)Possible calling coming from it. b)Possible AD c)Possible end of the world by Solas. Indeed they are vague and incomprensibile 3)Of course....hunting Morrigan in WH it's kinda of a metagaming reason(thus nosense by default) and the player is unable to do anything in that DLC. 4) One of the greatest mistake of DR players is to believe that whoever negated the DR is some kind of idealistic Hero(you equated them to the like of Cailain),well here is an update for you.I'm one of those who has negated it,and rather than playing WH to waste my time I would have rather taken the opportunity to massacrate Morrigan limb from limb and make her eat her own spinal cord in Redclieffe,I wonder isn't that so idealistic?Afterall if I murdered an Old God why I should let her escape tthe judgment? Gaider has saved her,that's why she got the idealistic salvation from her definitive death. And one of the greatest mistakes RPG players made is calling other people's opinion nonsense because their sacred lore is tarnished, thinking that others would then bother to read at all the very polite response. Which I didn't. tl;dr. Or rather, too rude, didn't read. So there you go, my post debunked, for all that it's worth. All I have to say is... the Dark Ritual is part of the game. That is all. It's too bad you don't like it, but it's part of the video game. Some of us picked it, so deal with it, and stop crying about the lore. Now, if you actually bother to write a more civilized response next time (take a look around; there are plenty of examples where people don't seem to have a stick up their Garrus when replying to a different opinion), then I might actually consider giving you the kind of attention you deserve. Until then, you have my minimum attention. The rest of my attention is back in Dragon Age enjoying a game without being riled up about how others play it, including and especially yourself and doflamingodonquijote. Did I adequately address your condescending debunk, your majesty? I would, however, use that 1% of attention to report you to better benefit the rest of the community should they accidentally push your berserk button again. I've been told that this was supposed to be a more civilized forum, so I'm hoping that the mods would act accordingly to such behavior.
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Post by Prince on May 4, 2017 11:43:59 GMT
Rarely I've heard that much nonsense in a single post.I wonder if I should spend the time to debunk it. 1)Those who do not want to follow the mandate of being a GW have no right whatsoever in demanding Duncan's help,so their fate would have been death in the Origin. 2)The vague incomprehensible consequences of the DR are the following: a)Possible calling coming from it. b)Possible AD c)Possible end of the world by Solas. Indeed they are vague and incomprensibile 3)Of course....hunting Morrigan in WH it's kinda of a metagaming reason(thus nosense by default) and the player is unable to do anything in that DLC. 4) One of the greatest mistake of DR players is to believe that whoever negated the DR is some kind of idealistic Hero(you equated them to the like of Cailain),well here is an update for you.I'm one of those who has negated it,and rather than playing WH to waste my time I would have rather taken the opportunity to massacrate Morrigan limb from limb and make her eat her own spinal cord in Redclieffe,I wonder isn't that so idealistic?Afterall if I murdered an Old God why I should let her escape tthe judgment? Gaider has saved her,that's why she got the idealistic salvation from her definitive death. And one of the greatest mistakes RPG players made is calling other people's opinion nonsense because their sacred lore is tarnished, thinking that others would then bother to read at all the very polite response. Which I didn't. tl;dr. Or rather, too rude, didn't read. So there you go, my post debunked, for all that it's worth. All I have to say is... the Dark Ritual is part of the game. That is all. It's too bad you don't like it, but it's part of the video game. Some of us picked it, so deal with it, and stop crying about the lore. Now, if you actually bother to write a more civilized response next time (take a look around; there are plenty of examples where people don't seem to have a stick up their Garrus when replying to a different opinion), then I might actually consider giving you the kind of attention you deserve. Until then, you have my minimum attention. The rest of my attention is back in Dragon Age enjoying a game without being riled up about how others play it, including and especially yourself and doflamingodonquijote. Did I adequately address your condescending debunk, your majesty? I would, however, use that 1% of attention to report you to better benefit the rest of the community should they accidentally push your berserk button again. I've been told that this was supposed to be a more civilized forum, so I'm hoping that the mods would act accordingly to such behavior. Report me,and see if that has any effect. I rather doubt it will have any(I've waited more than 24 hours and it didn't had any yet) since I've just debunked metagaming nonsense alongside several inexactitude. As for the Berserker mode you have accused me of (despite the fact that you have started it by waging on how much of idealistic fools Non-DR players are ),that just a truth,there wasn't anything preventing for Morrigan to be killed in Redclieffe aside from the plot armor Gaider gave to her.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on May 4, 2017 11:51:15 GMT
I don't have to be nice and polite with people whom actions I despise and loathe and that are unable to even challenge my arguments.Check it out my posts and see if there is anything that is infringing any of the rules of the forum,report me go on.
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Post by Hagoromo on May 4, 2017 12:04:28 GMT
The discussions that revolve around the DR and/or Morrigan in general have always been filled with grudges since the time of release of this game by many players (in this aspect this thread is nothing in comparison to those of 2009),honestly I don't see anything new nor anything deserving of any kind of reporting.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 4, 2017 12:10:45 GMT
And one of the greatest mistakes RPG players made is calling other people's opinion nonsense because their sacred lore is tarnished, thinking that others would then bother to read at all the very polite response. Which I didn't. tl;dr. Or rather, too rude, didn't read. So there you go, my post debunked, for all that it's worth. All I have to say is... the Dark Ritual is part of the game. That is all. It's too bad you don't like it, but it's part of the video game. Some of us picked it, so deal with it, and stop crying about the lore. Now, if you actually bother to write a more civilized response next time (take a look around; there are plenty of examples where people don't seem to have a stick up their Garrus when replying to a different opinion), then I might actually consider giving you the kind of attention you deserve. Until then, you have my minimum attention. The rest of my attention is back in Dragon Age enjoying a game without being riled up about how others play it, including and especially yourself and doflamingodonquijote. Did I adequately address your condescending debunk, your majesty? I would, however, use that 1% of attention to report you to better benefit the rest of the community should they accidentally push your berserk button again. I've been told that this was supposed to be a more civilized forum, so I'm hoping that the mods would act accordingly to such behavior. Report me,and see if that has any effect. I rather doubt it will have any(I've waited more than 24 hours and it didn't had any yet) since I've just debunked metagaming nonsense alongside several inexactitude. As for the Berserker mode you have accused me of (despite the fact that you have started it by waging on how much of idealistic fools Non-DR players are ),that just a truth,there wasn't anything preventing for Morrigan to be killed in Redclieffe aside from the plot armor Gaider gave to her. If it doesn't have any effect, it speaks more of the mods' attitude and leniency than any justification you came up with, but no matter. I'm not the one still hung up about the words of strangers casually written during the spur of the moment. " Waging on how much idealistic fools non-DR players are"? Are you serious? Waging? lol How overdramatic you are. I waged nothing, and merely wrote that statement which you're so upset about as a passing opinion, not some dictatorship I declared as the almighty truth you're so keen on upholding like some sacred duty. Waging, seriously. It's almost sad though that you spent as much time as you did debunking the words of a nobody online, about a video game no less, and got yourself into this meaningless argument because of your own inflated ego. I want to say that you surely have better things to do, but at this point, I doubt it. You could very well be dwelling in the basement hitting angrily on that keyboard and I wouldn't be surprised. I don't have to be nice and polite with people whom actions I despise and loathe and that are unable to even challenge my arguments.Check it out my posts and see if there is anything that is infringing any of the rules of the forum,report me go on. All I heard was white noise the likes of passing gas; nothing worth addressing as far as I'm concerned, let alone "challenging". Keep on staying mad, brother! We could've had a civilized exchange about Dragon Age lore, but hey, who am I to stop you from despising Internet strangers halfway across the globe? Yes, yes... feel that hatred seething through your veins... Embrace it and continue to despise others out of vanity and self-righteousness. I'm sure you'll go far in life. But just for the record, in case you're too thick to comprehend, I had bothered to address the opinions of others when they were mature enough not to make an arse of themselves, proper adults that I could talk to, not little kids the likes of Keyboard Warriors pissed about whose character got misportrayed or whatever. But that is something you probably either don't care for or are simply too ignorant to understand. Such overdramatic folks. The discussions that revolve around the DR and/or Morrigan in general have always been filled with grudges since the time of release of this game by many players Thanks for proving my point how touchy RPGers can be. It's like weeaboos all over again. Embarrassing.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 4, 2017 13:14:13 GMT
As for the Berserker mode you have accused me of (despite the fact that you have started it by waging on how much of idealistic fools Non-DR players are ) In regards to the whole "idealistic fools" nonsense (now that was some serious bullshit nonsense), I never used the word, "fool", nor was I referring to how Non-DR players were one. You're assuming a lot of my tone here based on nothing. That shows, yet again, that you were so sensitive that you were ready to jump down my throat based on your own insecurity. Now that's nonsense. I even told doflamingodonquijote not to read too much into my post, that I was not, I repeat, NOT generalizing any Dragon Age players at all, Dark Ritual or not. Get your head out of your ass. I never waged anything on anyone, you fool.
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Post by Iddy on May 4, 2017 13:43:07 GMT
You guys are taking the DR debate way, way too seriously.
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Post by Aren on May 4, 2017 14:24:05 GMT
The inclusion of the Dark ritual killed several good opportunities for those who have rejected it,opportunities which were absolutly plausible within the game and that in fact were part of the original plot of DAO up until Gaider had the brillaint idea to remove them for the DR.
I can't speak for others but that's where my main source of grudges towards Morrigan and her all important metaplot comes from. In Dragon Age Origins,Riordan is forced by the writers to not suggest more people into taking the Joining.He offers it to Loghain as a form of punishment,but he could have conscripted many other guys from the entire army of people who were already treaty bound to aid the Wardens during the time of a Blight. So if you really think about it, the player shouldn't have had only Loghain. They could've easily got Oghren, Sten, or any able soldier to become a warden.There should be enough blood for a good few tries(AD blood being an unnecessary requirment for the Joining),Instead we've got Riordan being uncaring to recruit more GW aside from Loghain,Alistair stomping off in a huff if you recruit Loghain despite him being fine with saving Sten(who don't forget had just murdered children) and crème de la crème Riordan suiciding himself by jumping on the flying Dragon rather than waiting for the Archers and the mages to hit it to force him on ground(that would have helped us also into not being forced to climb all Fort Drakon to reach it)
David Gaider pulled so many strings in order to have that specific outcome to favor her pupil(he also did a similar thing in DAI),that I'm glad he was removed by EA.
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