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Post by Toyish Batphone on Feb 19, 2017 5:15:24 GMT
Hello,
Given that it takes around 600 years for the Andromeda Initiative (AI) to travel to Andromeda, does this not mean that when the AI reaches Andromeda, they are effectively working with 600 year old technology ?
Under normal circumstances, should this not mean that the AI is hopelessly outgunned ?
The only way that can justify this is that is that Andromedan Technology is so outdated that even after 600 years, their technology is either on par or just slightly more advanced than the Milky Way people - Since their weapons are comparable to ours.
This raises another question and that is:- Andromedans do not appear have to deal with any galactic harvesting or culling like the Reapers so why have they not so far ahead of Milky Way people in terms of technology ?
Are their resources so scarce ? Or have the Andromedans bombed themselves back to simpler times like the Krogan did before the Salarian uplifted them ? Or have the Andromedans reached a state like the Drell people did and this has slowed progress ? Or is there some form of technological ceiling / limit that the Milky War people reached a long time ago (600 years eariler than Andromedans) ?Or is it something else ?
I am curious to hear your thoughts and theories on this.
Thanks.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 19, 2017 5:24:03 GMT
Its obvious that the Andromeda Galaxy has faces some sort of...well the Heleus Cluster...has faced some kind of technological apocolypse in recent years. The whole Remnant part of it which acts sort of like a Reaper harvesting without the Reapers resetting the tech to where the Milkyway is on par, or maybe more advanced, then their Andromeda brethern.
But on the flip sidetechnological progression in different galaxies don't have to follow the same rules. Its why while the Europeans were inventing firearms and running around with giant ships and a great many other advantages the Native Americans were running around with roughly the same technology they had been using for the last thousand years or so.
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Post by snook on Feb 19, 2017 5:32:17 GMT
Reapers or no Reapers, my limited Earthling mind tends to think that it's highly unlikely for a civilization to last millions of years of technological advancement without somehow screwing up and dying spectacularly. Guessing that might be what the Remnant are. I for one like the idea that BioWare might revisit the Dark Energy plotline this game to explain some things, perhaps.
Then again, we are confined to one cluster. Maybe something more advanced is on the horizon.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 5:35:27 GMT
It really depends on the history of the area. Who is to say technology advances that much in 600 years in their conditions. Humanity probably won't be that advance 600 years from now in real life. Maybe the Andromeda races are much more advanced (The Helios Guns are plasma that are heat seeking...hello Ratchet and Clank). Wasn't the Milky Way so advanced due to the reaper technology left behind to advance the races properly for harvesting?
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 5:44:42 GMT
Its obvious that the Andromeda Galaxy has faces some sort of...well the Heleus Cluster...has faced some kind of technological apocolypse in recent years. The whole Remnant part of it which acts sort of like a Reaper harvesting without the Reapers resetting the tech to where the Milkyway is on par, or maybe more advanced, then their Andromeda brethern. But on the flip sidetechnological progression in different galaxies don't have to follow the same rules. Its why while the Europeans were inventing firearms and running around with giant ships and a great many other advantages the Native Americans were running around with roughly the same technology they had been using for the last thousand years or so. Another good example is the book, Things Fall Apart. You follow the story's Nigerian protagonist Okonkwo thinking the book takes place a couple hundred of years ago until you realize it's the 1950s when white christian missionaries show up. It's all relative which provides a ton of flexibility and creative freedom for the writers. I hope we meet a pre space flight civilization maybe even one similar to Humanity |
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Post by colfoley on Feb 19, 2017 5:49:34 GMT
Its obvious that the Andromeda Galaxy has faces some sort of...well the Heleus Cluster...has faced some kind of technological apocolypse in recent years. The whole Remnant part of it which acts sort of like a Reaper harvesting without the Reapers resetting the tech to where the Milkyway is on par, or maybe more advanced, then their Andromeda brethern. But on the flip sidetechnological progression in different galaxies don't have to follow the same rules. Its why while the Europeans were inventing firearms and running around with giant ships and a great many other advantages the Native Americans were running around with roughly the same technology they had been using for the last thousand years or so. Another good example is the book, Things Fall Apart. You follow the story's Nigerian protagonist Okonkwo thinking the book takes place a couple hundred of years ago until you realize it's the 1950s when white christian missionaries show up. It's all relative which provides a ton of flexibility and creative freedom for the writers. I hope we meet a pre space flight civilization maybe even one similar to Humanity Could be interesting to have a quest or a quest line like "I, ET" from Farscape. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 19, 2017 5:50:15 GMT
It really depends on the history of the area. Who is to say technology advances that much in 600 years in their conditions. Humanity probably won't be that advance 600 years from now in real life. Maybe the Andromeda races are much more advanced (The Helios Guns are plasma that are heat seeking...hello Ratchet and Clank). Wasn't the Milky Way so advanced due to the reaper technology left behind to advance the races properly for harvesting? Yes, the races of the Milky Way only advanced as quickly as they did because of the breadcrumbs the Reapers left them to follow in order to make the harvests more efficient. In the beginning of Mass Effect 1, Anderson says that "If we hadn't discovered those Prothean ruins buried on Mars, we'd still be stuck on Earth." Likewise, without the Reapers the races of our cycle wouldn't nearly be as widespread since there wouldn't be Mass Relays, so like in Andromeda we would probably have been stuck in a single cluster for a long time. |
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 19, 2017 6:07:35 GMT
A head start of centuries didn't let the turians outclass the humans in the FCW. MW races got to a certain level and stopped, apparently.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 19, 2017 6:12:38 GMT
Hello, Given that it takes around 600 years for the Andromeda Initiative (AI) to travel to Andromeda, does this not mean that when the AI reaches Andromeda, they are effectively working with 600 year old technology ? Under normal circumstances, should this not mean that the AI is hopelessly outgunned ? The only way that can justify this is that is that Andromedan Technology is so outdated that even after 600 years, their technology is either on par or just slightly more advanced than the Milky Way people - Since their weapons are comparable to ours. This raises another question and that is:- Andromedans do not appear have to deal with any galactic harvesting or culling like the Reapers so why have they not so far ahead of Milky Way people in terms of technology ? Are their resources so scarce ? Or have the Andromedans bombed themselves back to simpler times like the Krogan did before the Salarian uplifted them ? Or have the Andromedans reached a state like the Drell people did and this has slowed progress ? Or is there some form of technological ceiling / limit that the Milky War people reached a long time ago (600 years eariler than Andromedans) ?Or is it something else ? I am curious to hear your thoughts and theories on this. Thanks. It depends on how they've advanced. who knows how advanced they were 600 years before we showed up. |
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 19, 2017 6:13:49 GMT
Hard to go wrong with throwing shards of metal at people wicked fast
That's all we've really advanced with conventional infantry arms. Just improved the delivery speed of metal
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