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Post by nikkolas on Aug 12, 2016 9:24:20 GMT
I've only completed Mark of the Assassin twice but I've warmed up to it on my second run. I first played it in Act 3 when my Hawke was Basalit-an and had handed over Isabela to the Arishok. Nevertheless, my enjoyment with the story and stuff was outweighed by my dislike for the combat. Having become vaguely more proficient with the battle system, I enjoyed it more the second run through. (to hell with stealth sections, though) I know some people dislike Tallis, feeling the game railroads you into helping her or something but as I recall, you can just leave her once she tells you who she really is and what she's really doing. I've neve rdone this, though. Personally, I liked Tallis for a couple reasons. 1. She's so different from most qunari we see. She was our first exposure to a non-warrior qunari as far as I know. 2. She's Viddathari. I want more of those, especially as companions. It's one thing to meet someone who grew up under the Qun, it's another to meet someone who willingly converted. We all understand how different and alien their thinking and system is to the rest of Thedas so it's naturally not easy for a convert to "fit in." Tallis adequately demonstrates and discusses this. She wants to find that peace of mind that the Qun holds but it's so friggin' hard for someone born outside of the Qun to find that absolute certainty in everything you do. I was of course disappointed with the romance. First time through I was already in a romance with Anders and he shot down all my attempts at flirting with her. Second time through I wasn't with anyone yet but all that happens is a little kiss or something. Bleh. In conclusion, she's a cute elf girl. What do you all think? P.S. An awesome little surprise from Trespasser was this dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Codex_entry:_SaarathI certainly hope we do see Tallis in DA4.
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 12, 2016 14:45:59 GMT
I actually do like Tallis a lot, and enjoyed that whole DLC. I wouldn't mind to see her show up again as a character, and the friendship/flirting between Tallis and Hawke is cute, although I don't really consider it a romance. I think Tallis could possibly be an interesting companion or cameo in DA4, since she is both elven and qunari.
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Post by noname55rr on Aug 17, 2016 15:14:05 GMT
I did like Tallis, she was gaving an yet another view on Qun in general. It was good to see the reasons of viddathari. Yet another ones after those two city elves in Act II. She was fun, little crazy and was not exacly liking obidience. That one last does amused me. Qun should be about obidience, and she was knowing that - yet she was disobiediant in her task. In DA II I had no argues over giving her this list back, I wanted to help her. Unfortunatly Inquisition with Trespasser ruined Qun completly for me. Tallis made Qun sounds like a good idea for poor people, for unwanted kids, slaves, sick etc. And then Trespasser came and portrayed Qunari in general as big liars, cheaters, spies, enemies, terrorists etc. So now I have hard time with Tallis in MotA - I still like her, but I don't want her to get this list. Also I am not homo so I didn't want to kiss Tallis at end even if she made remarks. Not even on male Hawke since Isabella was right over there. I would like to meet Tallis in future, I love her voice-actress (perhaps that's why I liked character of her) and I would like to see Tallis biological parents since she told that they sold her into slavery. I want to know why they did it.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 5, 2016 13:35:34 GMT
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The Tallis Mark of the Assassin DLC was funny. She explains some of the Qunari indoctrinations and social structure, something that ML and his PAN character totally destroyed in DA:I, in his elephantine stomping in pursuit of diversity.
I liked the DLC but her romance arc was ridiculously cut short. I can't fathom why Bio even bothered with a romance option.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 7, 2016 4:50:12 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> The Tallis Mark of the Assassin DLC was funny. She explains some of the Qunari indoctrinations and social structure, something that ML and his PAN character totally destroyed in DA:I, in his elephantine stomping in pursuit of diversity. I liked the DLC but her romance arc was ridiculously cut short. I can't fathom why Bio even bothered with a romance option. ML? You mean Mike Laidlaw? Just asking since he wasn't the one who made The Iron Bull, that was Patrick Weekes.
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Post by lordofwar on Sept 7, 2016 7:23:17 GMT
Rolled into MoA with Isabela and Anders after killing the Arishok, so I was honestly surprised at how civil she was with me. And as a mage who's seen a Saarebas, my Hawke didn't really return the favor. And why would anyone want to protect Qunari spies in southern Thedas? They aren't your friends, especially in Hawke's case.
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Post by ProbeAway on Sept 7, 2016 7:36:08 GMT
I liked Tallis well enough, I just found MOTA to be a bit jarring. It might make more sense in Act 1 where Hawke is trying to make his fortune, but in Acts 2 and 3 he/she has far more pressing matters to attend to than running off to Orlais to steal a jewel for a stranger.
I played it in Act 3 and it was a massive suspension of belief to have my Hawke go all Ocean's 11 while Kirkwall was on the brink of civil war. Aveline was at pains to point that out to me, too.
I didn't romance Tallis because I was worried Izzy might find out....
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 7, 2016 11:47:01 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> The Tallis Mark of the Assassin DLC was funny. She explains some of the Qunari indoctrinations and social structure, something that ML and his PAN character totally destroyed in DA:I, in his elephantine stomping in pursuit of diversity. I liked the DLC but her romance arc was ridiculously cut short. I can't fathom why Bio even bothered with a romance option. ML? You mean Mike Laidlaw? Just asking since he wasn't the one who made The Iron Bull, that was Patrick Weekes. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Yes. ML, as the Creative Director. gave his blessing. As top honcho, the buck stops with him.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 24, 2017 5:13:24 GMT
I know some people dislike Tallis, feeling the game railroads you into helping her or something but as I recall, you can just leave her once she tells you who she really is and what she's really doing. I've neve rdone this, though. The problem is that if you refuse to help her, things still end up pretty much the same way. She just sneaks into the meeting, and Montfort thinks you're still working with her and attacks you, and she uses the confusion to steal the list of spies. After the fight, she and Hawke have pretty much the same parting talk, and she gives Hawke the jewel, and leaves with the list, just like if you do agree to help her. And no matter what, Hawke just lets her walk away with a list of critical information about Qunari infiltrators. In a point in the timeline that is potentially post-Arishok. That is the bit that felt railroaded. As for her character, she was fairly likeable, but I do think the way she was handled left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth (my original Hawke was a takes-no-crap sort of person, who I can't imagine how to justify not murder-knifing Tallis with...or at least trying to do so!). It just felt like they made her untouchable because the voice actress that played her was a celebrity guest star or some such (I'm not familiar with her but I know she got name-dropped in the marketing of the DLC, so I figger I just don't watch the "right" stuff). It'll be difficult if she ever reappears to keep my player characters "in character" and not just immediately treat her as an enemy, if she isn't just flat out presented as one anyway.
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Post by phoray on Jan 24, 2017 14:33:55 GMT
I've only played once. I may play it once more. I tend towards being nice on any first encounter, but I was actually honestly against helping her and made myself take the helping her path- specifically because I'd read online that you get the same outcome, minus the thanks, if you don't.
She lies a lot. She tries to sell the Qun to a mage (endless laughter). And it's never like the arun'hilom with Merril. I held that tool and got to decide to give it to Merril. Instead, I never have my grubby hands on the list, and regardless of my beliefs, she makes off with it. And I don't even know why, like the deaths of 100s of ex spies would have had any effect on the core storyline that you couldn't let me RP potentially having them all killed.
And I have watched the Voice Actor of Tallis do other things. And she's a terrible actor. Not in her other things... I mean, technically in her other things she plays herself. Why not. But then she played herself who happened to be an elf following the Qun. So, there I am, watching/listening to her and I just see a girl at her computer desk having awkward conversation with other gamer nerds in my head with ears taped on. There was no distinction in personality, inflection, or emotion between the two roles. And considering how hard they made her elf look like her when they coulnd't be bothered to make Zevran look like his old self is just...bah
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Post by Sifr on Jan 24, 2017 15:49:31 GMT
With Tallis' habit of breaking the rules, it would be no surprise if she's eventually stripped of her rank and declared Tal-Vashoth.
Personally I think it would make her a way more interesting character. Rather than the slightly smug Qunari we met in MotA, finding out who Tallis is and what makes her tick when she's off-the-rails and not got the Qun to define herself, would be an interesting direction to take her.
I'm not against bringing back Tallis, but she'd need a ton of character development to fix the flaws in her character. It might be better to bring her back in a comic or novel, where we could get more into her head than we would if she appeared in another game.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 24, 2017 20:23:16 GMT
I loved MotA and did not hate Tallis. I like how Sebastian looks at a viddathari elf and mournfully says that the Chantry has failed the elves.
I liked Redemption, too. Cairn was especially cool.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 9, 2017 5:44:58 GMT
Here's something you don't see everyday: a Tallis cosplay!
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Post by q9j9p on Feb 2, 2018 4:09:47 GMT
Tried to romanced Tallis, but she always keeps me hangin'... waiting... and then just went on her way...Right here waiting...
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Post by gervaise21 on May 26, 2018 21:23:51 GMT
The problem with Tallis for me was the number of unexplained things in her story and the fact that she had originally been developed by the actress for her own web picture (that had some dodgy lore in it) and then was used in the DLC instead of having a totally original character because of the "famous" name attached to her. I found it irritating that they actually went out of their way to make the character look like the actress. There were several points in the story, from the battle at the beginning, to the jail break, to her calmly walking in and taking the list, that made her seem infallible but also more important than Hawke, which is slightly odd considering the whole of DA2 is meant to be Varric talking up Hawke as a hero.
I could actually understand trying to help her in Acts 1 or 2 because the Arishok never let on exactly what he was looking for so it did seem plausible that Hawke might think the "jewel" was the artefact that was needed to appease him. However, there seemed no reason at all to assist her in Act 3 and if you did, once it became clear it was the list she was after, no reason to let her have it. The other fault with the overall plot was making Prosper such an idiot when it came to the value of Salit and the list.
I wouldn't say that Talis was a true Viddathari who had chosen the Qun. If you read her backstory in WoT2 it would seem she has always been a hairs breadth from being given qamek. Which begs the question why they kept letting her get off when she is constantly subversive and disobeys orders. In MoA I assumed there had to be a reason that her superiors ordered her not to go after Salit so when she did, presumably that went against their plans, but still she got away with it. According to WoT2 her parents sold her into slavery to pay their debts, which is apparently common practice in Tevinter for poorer families. Then her slaver ship was captured by the Qunari and all on board were taken for forcible re-education by the Ben-Hassrath. She was going to be turned into a mindless labourer because she was "impossible to break" but Salit intervened and made himself personally responsible for her education. This would explain her misgivings about the Qun, particularly when you consider her mentor had allegedly abandoned it, but not why once he was out of the picture they persisted with her when her history is a catalogue of disobedience. I can only think that it suits them to continue to use her because her being a elf is helpful for their agents to stay undercover.
Then she pops up again in the War Table missions for the Qun in Inquisition and in a letter in Trespasser that suggests she is still having doubts about the Qun. If we were to encounter her again I think I would only respect her as a character if she had finally found the will power to leave the Qun.
I actually found refusing her more satisfying considering how deceitful she had been but also because it allows you to have a pleasant walk through the forest chatting with your established companions. One of the best conversations I had with Anders took place on that walk.
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Post by Sifr on May 27, 2018 9:29:15 GMT
This would explain her misgivings about the Qun, particularly when you consider her mentor had allegedly abandoned it, but not why once he was out of the picture they persisted with her when her history is a catalogue of disobedience. I can only think that it suits them to continue to use her because her being a elf is helpful for their agents to stay undercover. Gatt offered a good explanation for why the Qunari will tolerate "difficult" agents (at least to a point);
"They hate to discard a tool that might have some use left in it. That's why I have a job." Gatt's got a temper, Tallis is disobedient and Bull has a long history of reinterpreting rules/orders to suit him, but as long as they continued to be loyal and effective at carrying out their jobs/missions, their leaders in the Ben-Hassrath seemed content to overlook these undesirable qualities. In Bull's case, they didn't seem to question his effectiveness, only his loyalty. With Tallis, it seems to be the reverse. They don't doubt her loyalty, but her effectiveness is occasionally called into question, whenever her unorthodox methods backfire and make her more of a liability than an asset. For instance, what if the Qunari had actually masterminded the delivery of a fake list to Duke Prosper in MotA? What if the list actually contained names of people the Qunari wanted eliminated, which they knew the Orlesians would do for them, under the assumption they were wiping out "Qunari spies"? Salit may have been ordered to go undercover as a Tal-Vashoth, but this knowledge was kept need-to-know, so that everyone (both Qunari and those spying on them) would believe the story that it was a legitimate defection. Or the Qunari used Salit's own disillusionment with the Qun, to feed him false information they knew he'd sell to the Orlesians (similar to the TNG episode "The Defector"). In this case, Tallis may have unwittingly botched the entire operation by hunting down Salit and retrieving the list. That's why she mentions her frustration with her superiors specifically ordering not to do anything or go after her former mentor.
The only reason why she'd not have been punished for screwing up the operation, might be that we've seen several times that the Qunari have a tendency to deny anything that goes catastrophically wrong or could potentially embarrass them, either as the actions of rogue individuals or as being "all part of the plan". It would have been easier to give Tallis a pat on the back for saving the list, rather than admit that months/years of planning a top-secret operation just went up in smoke.
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Post by Catilina on May 27, 2018 11:17:04 GMT
The problem with Tallis for me was the number of unexplained things in her story and the fact that she had originally been developed by the actress for her own web picture (that had some dodgy lore in it) and then was used in the DLC instead of having a totally original character because of the "famous" name attached to her. I found it irritating that they actually went out of their way to make the character look like the actress. There were several points in the story, from the battle at the beginning, to the jail break, to her calmly walking in and taking the list, that made her seem infallible but also more important than Hawke, which is slightly odd considering the whole of DA2 is meant to be Varric talking up Hawke as a hero. I could actually understand trying to help her in Acts 1 or 2 because the Arishok never let on exactly what he was looking for so it did seem plausible that Hawke might think the "jewel" was the artefact that was needed to appease him. However, there seemed no reason at all to assist her in Act 3 and if you did, once it became clear it was the list she was after, no reason to let her have it. The other fault with the overall plot was making Prosper such an idiot when it came to the value of Salit and the list. I wouldn't say that Talis was a true Viddathari who had chosen the Qun. If you read her backstory in WoT2 it would seem she has always been a hairs breadth from being given qamek. Which begs the question why they kept letting her get off when she is constantly subversive and disobeys orders. In MoA I assumed there had to be a reason that her superiors ordered her not to go after Salit so when she did, presumably that went against their plans, but still she got away with it. According to WoT2 her parents sold her into slavery to pay their debts, which is apparently common practice in Tevinter for poorer families. Then her slaver ship was captured by the Qunari and all on board were taken for forcible re-education by the Ben-Hassrath. She was going to be turned into a mindless labourer because she was "impossible to break" but Salit intervened and made himself personally responsible for her education. This would explain her misgivings about the Qun, particularly when you consider her mentor had allegedly abandoned it, but not why once he was out of the picture they persisted with her when her history is a catalogue of disobedience. I can only think that it suits them to continue to use her because her being a elf is helpful for their agents to stay undercover.
Then she pops up again in the War Table missions for the Qun in Inquisition and in a letter in Trespasser that suggests she is still having doubts about the Qun. If we were to encounter her again I think I would only respect her as a character if she had finally found the will power to leave the Qun.
I actually found refusing her more satisfying considering how deceitful she had been but also because it allows you to have a pleasant walk through the forest chatting with your established companions. One of the best conversations I had with Anders took place on that walk.
I did it between the Act2 and Act3 (because this is impossible, I started it at the beginning of the Act3, before I would do anything else). The reason was: to spend a simple vacation with some suspicious craziness, just as before – far away from Kirkwall's madness and boring social invitations, with Anders and Carver (but this only later came out, as we know, Hawke didn't know, when accepted the task) – a sweet, nostalgic family adventure – with a little bit improvement after the Deep Roads, even if Hawke was not sure, about whom he likes better: the Orlesian nobles or the darkspawn... (But this Hawke was never a "hero", he was an outlaw, and remained as an outlaw, and he was proud with that, just with his title and position – as an apostate "maleficar".) To decide whether help Tallis or not, was much harder. I wanted the conversations, but this Hawke was not that helpful – and shared Anders' opinion about the Qun. So: while at the end he helped Tallis, I didn't found it well-founded decision, rather OOC... But as you said too, it was fun and worthy. A crazy vacation. By the way, I agree with you about Tallis.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 27, 2018 13:08:39 GMT
For instance, what if the Qunari had actually masterminded the delivery of a fake list to Duke Prosper in MotA? What if the list actually contained names of people the Qunari wanted eliminated, which they knew the Orlesians would do for them, under the assumption they were wiping out "Qunari spies"? Salit may have been ordered to go undercover as a Tal-Vashoth, but this knowledge was kept need-to-know, so that everyone (both Qunari and those spying on them) would believe the story that it was a legitimate defection. Or the Qunari used Salit's own disillusionment with the Qun, to feed him false information they knew he'd sell to the Orlesians (similar to the TNG episode "The Defector"). In this case, Tallis may have unwittingly botched the entire operation by hunting down Salit and retrieving the list. That's why she mentions her frustration with her superiors specifically ordering not to do anything or go after her former mentor.
The only reason why she'd not have been punished for screwing up the operation, might be that we've seen several times that the Qunari have a tendency to deny anything that goes catastrophically wrong or could potentially embarrass them, either as the actions of rogue individuals or as being "all part of the plan". It would have been easier to give Tallis a pat on the back for saving the list, rather than admit that months/years of planning a top-secret operation just went up in smoke. This was exactly the reason I thought they probably had ordered her not to interfere. To me it always seemed a plausible reason for Salit's actions and the list. You are also probably right and the reason they didn't do anything to her in response was that they didn't want her to know what they had been doing. I wonder how many more mess ups they would allow, though, before they decided the "tool" was no longer needed.
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Post by Walter Black on May 29, 2018 15:13:38 GMT
If the writers do bring Tallis back for Dragon Age 4, I hope they learn from fan criticism and give her actual character development, as opposed to throwing out the baby with the bathwater and make her a boss fight. Since Iron Bull could be convinced to leave the Qun, giving Tallis the option to go Tal-Vashoth would be too "been there, done that". I think it would be much more interesting if Tallis stays Qunari no matter what, and the player can convince her to stay completely loyal, try to improve the Qun from within, or find both options unacceptable and then kill her . It would be even better if one of our mage Companions was a kossith Tal-Vashoth Saarebas who could make all the counter-arguments we wish Hawke should have been able to .
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Post by Sifr on May 29, 2018 17:05:42 GMT
I think it'd be interesting to have Tallis return as a full-fledged companion.
The player character would quickly learn (and the audience already knows) that she's a Ben-Hassrath spy and we're lead to believe this for most of the game. It's only in her personal question that we discover she's been declared Tal-Vashoth against her will, but is still in denial about it.
In reality, her "secret mission" in Tevinter was actually just her desperately looking for some way to convince the Qunari to take her back, which we have the option to support, oppose, or convince her that it's never going to work (cause it won't).
Sort of an Elseworld's take on Sten's story from Origins, as well as Bull's from Inquisition.
"What if Sten couldn't go home even after retrieving Asala and had to come to accept that?" "What if Bull didn't have a support system like the Chargers/Inquisition to cope with becoming Tal-Vashoth?"
It'd be cool to deconstruct Tallis and see who she is underneath all that arrogant bravado, once she can't count on the Qun anymore to define both who she is to herself and to other people. Watching as she goes through the five stages as he comes to terms with being Tal-Vashoth, would make her a far more interesting and relatable character, at least in my mind.
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May 29, 2018 22:38:21 GMT
Post by Walter Black on May 29, 2018 22:38:21 GMT
I think it'd be interesting to have Tallis return as a full-fledged companion. The player character would quickly learn (and the audience already knows) that she's a Ben-Hassrath spy and we're lead to believe this for most of the game. It's only in her personal question that we discover she's been declared Tal-Vashoth against her will, but is still in denial about it. In reality, her "secret mission" in Tevinter was actually just her desperately looking for some way to convince the Qunari to take her back, which we have the option to support, oppose, or convince her that it's never going to work (cause it won't). Sort of an Elseworld's take on Sten's story from Origins, as well as Bull's from Inquisition. "What if Sten couldn't go home even after retrieving Asala and had to come to accept that?" "What if Bull didn't have a support system like the Chargers/Inquisition to cope with becoming Tal-Vashoth?" It'd be cool to deconstruct Tallis and see who she is underneath all that arrogant bravado, once she can't count on the Qun anymore to define both who she is to herself and to other people. Watching as she goes through the five stages as he comes to terms with being Tal-Vashoth, would make her a far more interesting and relatable character, at least in my mind.Except that was already Iron Bull's story, a formally loyal Qunari who *might* have to deal with living as Tal-Vashoth. Having Tallis remain in the Qun, but actually want to help improve it from within instead of simply leaving, would be a new and different story. Especially if she has a kossith Vashoth or Tal-Vashoth (preferably Saarebas) to play off on.
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May 9, 2019 18:13:49 GMT
Post by Beerfish on May 9, 2019 18:13:49 GMT
I so wanted to kill that traitorous scritch.
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Dec 11, 2019 11:52:41 GMT
Post by Sonya on Dec 11, 2019 11:52:41 GMT
This DLC is not my favorite but I still play it (mostly to check new builds as combat in thid DLC is rather difficult). As for Tallis: never liked her, never-ever. She approched Hawke to get to the party to get that list. But she had a plan but everythig she did was a mess, she never did everyting ringt so tells Hawke e.g. "Go get the key". What? Tallis, you had a plan and now you almost oders me to do your planned job! What finally pissed me off even before imprisonning the scene: you break into the caslte, see the guard and Tallis "Pretend you didn't see us. Three is no need to die today" But the guard yells and Tallis kills him, then we hear touchy music, can ask Talli what's wrong and jut say to get moving and he continues to throw quots from the Qun. My point here: the guard DID HIS JOB, TALLIS! You expected him just go away?!!! Of course he tries to stop us. When I saw that scene it just added annoyance to have Tallis near me. While imprisonned Tallis could have opened the cage ANY TIME but what does she say? "Hawke, you said you should await rescue, now I am tired of waiting" and just opened the cage. WTTF? I understand that it is done so you could ask questions what the hell is going on, but what I see again she can't so anything right. In the end I part with her (played helping her as wanted to check that path but now every time send her to hell). In the ned, after all that mess because of her I wish to thave the option to killl her and don't understand why it isn't there. Varric "I don't know why Hawke didn't kill Tallis....." Yes, I also don't understand that. Can't even use flirt options with her.Disgusting. I think Tallis is a well-written character but in that sense for me that a well-written character whom I hate (it's a good thing. Even BW devs told that if you like all our characters, than we didn't do our job well). In general: hatable lying character who couldn't do anyting ringt and Hawke "came to rescue", quoting the Qun bullshil w/o full understanding what she says and does.
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