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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 24, 2017 0:43:18 GMT
Is he going to be relevant or not? Unknown, but there's something, which I've tagged for spoilers just because I wanna give ya a chance to not get all sorts of crazy expectations. You choose the gender of your Shepard at the end of character-customization in this game
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 0:46:53 GMT
Since you only choose the gender, it's probably only Shepard's voice that is heard.
Maybe that bon voyage voice over from that one trailer actually appears in game. A bit silly, if so. Shepard should have nothing to do with the Andromeda Initiative. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 0:48:04 GMT
No. At best, there will be passing references and mentions of Shepard as a "he" or "she." The likelihood of Shepard being integral to the plot in any way, shape, or form is almost 0%. Andromeda is a soft reboot of the franchise that's supposed to be appealing to newcomers to the franchise. The last thing BioWare will do is bring a lot of content from the previous trilogy that newcomers won't understand.
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 24, 2017 0:51:58 GMT
My guess is that Shepard might be mentioned in passing as a famous human figure, or be included as a part of the archives on the Nexus that the Arks & Nexus AI briefing mentioned.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 0:53:34 GMT
Since you only choose the gender, it's probably only Shepard's voice that is heard.
Maybe that bon voyage voice over from that one trailer actually appears in game. A bit silly, if so. Shepard should have nothing to do with the Andromeda Initiative. I'm fairly certain BioWare indicated this was merely fan service and not actually canon. To my knowledge, Shepard was never actually aware of the Andromeda Initiative seeing as it was never related to the Citadel or the Alliance. Not to mention, the Andromeda Initiative launches in the year 2185 CE, which is the year Cerberus revives Shepard from the grave. In other words, it's likely the entire crew would have believed Shepard was dead at this point as no one (except Cerberus) knew he was alive or about to be alive. |
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Post by missileglitcher on Feb 24, 2017 0:53:53 GMT
he's not in the game.
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Post by SalMasRac on Feb 24, 2017 0:54:22 GMT
That it is asking for a gender reference, and nothing more, indicates it just needs to know whether to refer to Shep as (s)he in passing.
Though perhaps they should just refer to Shep as shim.
Y'all are a little weird.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 24, 2017 0:58:36 GMT
Nexus or Hyperion will have a Shepard VI. |
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Post by lightdrago3 on Feb 24, 2017 1:12:01 GMT
I'd like a passing reference to Shepard here and there. This launches between 2 and 3 right? Perhaps there can be two NPCs discussing if Shepard was crazy or not about the Reapers, as an example.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 24, 2017 1:15:34 GMT
It's just for gender. Not even general Paragon/Renegade distinction so obviously nothing important will be mentioned about him
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Post by jasonpogo on Feb 24, 2017 1:18:56 GMT
I agree it is more likely just for when characters make a reference to Shepard.
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Post by wolfsite on Feb 24, 2017 1:47:33 GMT
Codex entry for Commander Shepard in Mass Effect: Andromeda:
"Commander Shepard became one the Alliances most revered soldiers, being both the first human Spectre, and defeating Saren and the Reaper Soverign during the battle for the Citadel. The Commander has also become famous for having sexual relations - or "Banging" as some people prefer - with many humans and aliens all throughout the galaxy. Many have attempted to top the Commander in this aspect but few have yet to come close.
The Commander is also quite famous for causing blunt force trauma to reporters, out drinking most non-Krogan races, and poor dancing skills."
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Post by jediguardian on Feb 24, 2017 1:51:02 GMT
Since Dev. said reference from ME1 is possible, This is what I think.
- Mention about he/she is Spectre or another storyline that not change by Shepard decision.
- We will meet someone relate to him/her.
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Post by jasonpogo on Feb 24, 2017 1:53:43 GMT
Since Dev. said reference from ME1 is possible, This is what I think. - Mention about he/she is Spectre or another storyline that not change by Shepard decision. - We will meet someone relate to him/her. I hope we don't meet anyone related to Shepard. Only the Spacer background had any family and that was your mom who was def still in the Milky way during Mass Effect 3. |
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Post by Cypher on Feb 24, 2017 1:53:48 GMT
Since you only choose the gender, it's probably only Shepard's voice that is heard.
Maybe that bon voyage voice over from that one trailer actually appears in game. A bit silly, if so. Shepard should have nothing to do with the Andromeda Initiative. I'm fairly certain BioWare indicated this was merely fan service and not actually canon. To my knowledge, Shepard was never actually aware of the Andromeda Initiative seeing as it was never related to the Citadel or the Alliance. Not to mention, the Andromeda Initiative launches in the year 2185 CE, which is the year Cerberus revives Shepard from the grave. In other words, it's likely the entire crew would have believed Shepard was dead at this point as no one (except Cerberus) knew he was alive or about to be alive. Andromeda Initiative was in works for ten years and was recruiting people from all over the galaxy; the chances of Shepard not knowing are slim and illogical. You can know about something and not mention it because it's irrelevant to whatever you have going on actively. If I know about a bunch of families in my neighborhood all deciding to up and move to Nebraska to start a new community and I'm running around chasing a terrorist across the United States, I'm not all that worried about those people running off to Nebraska. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 3:07:40 GMT
I'm fairly certain BioWare indicated this was merely fan service and not actually canon. To my knowledge, Shepard was never actually aware of the Andromeda Initiative seeing as it was never related to the Citadel or the Alliance. Not to mention, the Andromeda Initiative launches in the year 2185 CE, which is the year Cerberus revives Shepard from the grave. In other words, it's likely the entire crew would have believed Shepard was dead at this point as no one (except Cerberus) knew he was alive or about to be alive. Andromeda Initiative was in works for ten years and was recruiting people from all over the galaxy; the chances of Shepard not knowing are slim and illogical. You can know about something and not mention it because it's irrelevant to whatever you have going on actively. If I know about a bunch of families in my neighborhood all deciding to up and move to Nebraska to start a new community and I'm running around chasing a terrorist across the United States, I'm not all that worried about those people running off to Nebraska. You act as if Shepard wasn't N7 as well as the first human Spectre... He wasn't exactly leisurely hanging around Earth, checking in every now and then to see what the latest intergalactic exploration mission was going to be. The guy was busy. After the events of ME1, he was hunting Geth for months. Then he died... The Andromeda Initiative, to my knowledge, also wasn't public information. It was privately funded and retained a low profile. It wasn't just a free meal ticket or a first come first serve buffet... Again, it's unlikely he knew about it and anyone part of the Andromeda Initiative would likely assume he was dead, which is largely more to the point of this thread. If anyone mentions Shepard, it's likely going to be about his exploits in Mass Effect 1. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 24, 2017 3:08:57 GMT
Shepard (as cool as he/she was) and his/her story is done. I don't think they'll have any relevance whatsoever in this game.
Nor should they.
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Post by Cypher on Feb 24, 2017 3:14:43 GMT
Andromeda Initiative was in works for ten years and was recruiting people from all over the galaxy; the chances of Shepard not knowing are slim and illogical. You can know about something and not mention it because it's irrelevant to whatever you have going on actively. If I know about a bunch of families in my neighborhood all deciding to up and move to Nebraska to start a new community and I'm running around chasing a terrorist across the United States, I'm not all that worried about those people running off to Nebraska. You act as if Shepard wasn't N7 as well as the first human Spectre... He wasn't exactly leisurely hanging around Earth, checking in every now and then to see what the latest intergalactic exploration mission was going to be. The guy was busy. After the events of ME1, he was hunting Geth for months. Then he died... The Andromeda Initiative, to my knowledge, also wasn't public information. It was privately funded and retained a low profile. Again, it's unlikely he knew about it and anyone part of the Andromeda Initiative would likely assume he was dead, which is largely more to the point of this thread. If anyone mentions Shepard, it's likely going to be about his exploits in Mass Effect 1. Shepard has access to the news like everyone else. A bigass project like Andromeda Initiative would've had promo pieces and advertisements in order to coax and entice people to sign up. Shepard doesn't need to hang out on Earth to know that a bigass spaceship is being built because some private citizens want to go off and explore, nor does Shepard knowing about it add or subtract anything from the initial trilogy. Other than it being civilian lead, nothing about Ai has pointed to it being some low profile secret thing; that's all forum speculation. We do know that: 1. It's a project of rich people in the 2170's. 2. It has no government afiliation. 3. it leaves during ME2 while Shepard is caught up in their own thing. Not one of those things says it's some secret black project that only the most top tier privy people know about. People in Andromeda initiative don't need to know about Shepard's current activities, because, out of everything in this thread, that was a secret that was covered up and downplayed. Anyone in Ai would suffice to talk about the Citadel attack in ME1, or depending on when it actually leaves, Shepard being dead, or maybe even Shepard nuking a Batarian system, and that's only if the project is around during the Arrival DLC and not off in the middle of darkspace by then. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 3:19:05 GMT
My guess is that Shepard might be mentioned in passing as a famous human figure, or be included as a part of the archives on the Nexus that the Arks & Nexus AI briefing mentioned. I'm thinking the same thing. It will be so characters can say he or she instead of they when referring to Shepard, and the Nexus archives will have a thing about humanity joining the Council thanks to Shepards efforts, talking in a way that leaves all ME1s canon. They may also have a hologram of Shepard that changes based on the gender chosen, but have it as a fully sealed N7 armor and helmet thus leaving the appearance ambiguous so all are canon. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:27:59 GMT
Shepard will probably be a part of the Nexus museum we've heard about. I remember Bioware said that "recurring characters will be customizable in this way (referring to Hawke in Inquisition) from now on" or something like that, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see a Shepard hologram or something like that. Unless he/she is just wearing the helmet, which is also possible, and probably easier (even if it is a little strange for a museum to not have a person's face).
Regardless, Shepard is too relevant a character in the universe to not be mentioned. A war hero? First human Spectre? Commanded the Normandy, a one-of-its-kind ship? Saved the Citadel?
It's literally impossible for him/her to not be in there in some form. I don't think Shepard will be a vital part of the story, or even a minor one, but to go unmentioned would just be ludicrous. Especially since this takes place during Mass Effect 2, when Shepard is more or less considered a martyr by most people. Killed in Action by some mysterious alien ship. That's an important historical event. One that would more than likely be worth preserving and passing on to new generations in Andromeda.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 3:34:06 GMT
You act as if Shepard wasn't N7 as well as the first human Spectre... He wasn't exactly leisurely hanging around Earth, checking in every now and then to see what the latest intergalactic exploration mission was going to be. The guy was busy. After the events of ME1, he was hunting Geth for months. Then he died... The Andromeda Initiative, to my knowledge, also wasn't public information. It was privately funded and retained a low profile. Again, it's unlikely he knew about it and anyone part of the Andromeda Initiative would likely assume he was dead, which is largely more to the point of this thread. If anyone mentions Shepard, it's likely going to be about his exploits in Mass Effect 1. Shepard has access to the news like everyone else. A bigass project like Andromeda Initiative would've had promo pieces and advertisements in order to coax and entice people to sign up. Shepard doesn't need to hang out on Earth to know that a bigass spaceship is being built because some private citizens want to go off and explore, nor does Shepard knowing about it add or subtract anything from the initial trilogy. Other than it being civilian lead, nothing about Ai has pointed to it being some low profile secret thing; that's all forum speculation. We do know that: 1. It's a project of rich people in the 2170's. 2. It has no government afiliation. 3. it leaves during ME2 while Shepard is caught up in their own thing. Not one of those things says it's some secret black project that only the most top tier privy people know about. People in Andromeda initiative don't need to know about Shepard's current activities, because, out of everything in this thread, that was a secret that was covered up and downplayed. Anyone in Ai would suffice to talk about the Citadel attack in ME1, or depending on when it actually leaves, Shepard being dead, or maybe even Shepard nuking a Batarian system, and that's only if the project is around during the Arrival DLC and not off in the middle of darkspace by then. Where are you getting this impression it was a "bigass project" that had "promo pieces and advertisements"? Is this stuff you are just making up in your own head? To my knowledge, this is all we actually know about the project. Read below:
"Founded in 2176 and launched in 2185, the Andromeda Initiative is a civilian, multi-species project created to send scientists, explorers and colonists on a one-way trip to settle in the Andromeda Galaxy. With powerful benefactors lending their support, the program has grown substantially in scope since its inception. The Initiative’s ultimate goal is to establish a permanent presence on the seemingly resource-rich frontier of Andromeda, and eventually create a reliable route between it and the Milky Way Galaxy."
www.masseffect.com/andromeda-initiative/training-hub/welcome
There are only 20,000 humans on Hyperion when it launches, which if you think about the actual population of Earth that's a very small number. In other words, there's no suggestion at all everybody and their mother is aware of this project, nor that they have the money to be a part of it. Again, you are assuming and making inferences without any actual evidence. Just because you believe Shepard should have been aware doesn't mean he/she was. Your dates are also off because the Arks launch while Shepard is still likely dead. The year they launch is the year Cerberus revives Shepard, which is 2185 CE. Even if Shepard is alive, nobody would know he's alive at this point other than Cerberus. Everybody is aware that Shepard saved the Citadel and is the famous human Spectre. They just aren't aware of the Reapers, which were falsely reported as being Geth technology. |
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Post by jasonpogo on Feb 24, 2017 3:34:53 GMT
Shepard will probably be a part of the Nexus museum we've heard about. I remember Bioware said that "recurring characters will be customizable in this way (referring to Hawke in Inquisition) from now on" or something like that, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see a Shepard hologram or something like that. Unless he/she is just wearing the helmet, which is also possible, and probably easier (even if it is a little strange for a museum to not have a person's face). Regardless, Shepard is too relevant a character in the universe to not be mentioned. A war hero? First human Spectre? Commanded the Normandy, a one-of-its-kind ship? Saved the Citadel? It's literally impossible for him/her to not be in there in some form. I don't think Shepard will be a vital part of the story, or even a minor one, but to go unmentioned would just be ludicrous. Especially since this takes place during Mass Effect 2, when Shepard is more or less considered a martyr by most people. Killed in Action by some mysterious alien ship. That's an important historical event. One that would more than likely be worth preserving and passing on to new generations in Andromeda. I hope we do not see or have to remake "our" Shepard in MEA. Just look at Dragon Age for this. Alistair in DA2 looks horrid. And then because of the change in engines you could not realy make your Hawke look like your Hawke. I doubt with this new engine you could really make your Shepard look the same again. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:53:57 GMT
Shepard will probably be a part of the Nexus museum we've heard about. I remember Bioware said that "recurring characters will be customizable in this way (referring to Hawke in Inquisition) from now on" or something like that, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see a Shepard hologram or something like that. Unless he/she is just wearing the helmet, which is also possible, and probably easier (even if it is a little strange for a museum to not have a person's face). Regardless, Shepard is too relevant a character in the universe to not be mentioned. A war hero? First human Spectre? Commanded the Normandy, a one-of-its-kind ship? Saved the Citadel? It's literally impossible for him/her to not be in there in some form. I don't think Shepard will be a vital part of the story, or even a minor one, but to go unmentioned would just be ludicrous. Especially since this takes place during Mass Effect 2, when Shepard is more or less considered a martyr by most people. Killed in Action by some mysterious alien ship. That's an important historical event. One that would more than likely be worth preserving and passing on to new generations in Andromeda. I hope we do not see or have to remake "our" Shepard in MEA. Just look at Dragon Age for this. Alistair in DA2 looks horrid. And then because of the change in engines you could not realy make your Hawke look like your Hawke. I doubt with this new engine you could really make your Shepard look the same again. My biggest issue with Hawke was the fact that none of the hairstyles from DAII came back. Hair is usually one of the first things I notice about a character's design (probably because I watch a lot of anime, and hairstyle is often the only thing that really looks any different from every other character), so my Hawke looked like a completely different person to me. Alistair doesn't really fall under this category though, since I didn't customize him. He looks different, I agree, but it doesn't really relate to what I'm talking about, as I had no control over how he looked. Besides, Morrigan looked absolutely stunning, and very faithful to her original design. I was quite happy to see my waifu of old again, lol. But anyway, hairstyles were a lot more basic in ME, so it would be pretty easy to replicate Shepard. Almost 90% of the options were just variations on a shaved head. The only problem I can really see running into would be build, as Ryder is much smaller than Shepard was. |
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Post by Cypher on Feb 24, 2017 3:57:47 GMT
Shepard has access to the news like everyone else. A bigass project like Andromeda Initiative would've had promo pieces and advertisements in order to coax and entice people to sign up. Shepard doesn't need to hang out on Earth to know that a bigass spaceship is being built because some private citizens want to go off and explore, nor does Shepard knowing about it add or subtract anything from the initial trilogy. Other than it being civilian lead, nothing about Ai has pointed to it being some low profile secret thing; that's all forum speculation. We do know that: 1. It's a project of rich people in the 2170's. 2. It has no government afiliation. 3. it leaves during ME2 while Shepard is caught up in their own thing. Not one of those things says it's some secret black project that only the most top tier privy people know about. People in Andromeda initiative don't need to know about Shepard's current activities, because, out of everything in this thread, that was a secret that was covered up and downplayed. Anyone in Ai would suffice to talk about the Citadel attack in ME1, or depending on when it actually leaves, Shepard being dead, or maybe even Shepard nuking a Batarian system, and that's only if the project is around during the Arrival DLC and not off in the middle of darkspace by then. Where are you getting this impression it was a "bigass project" that had "promo pieces and advertisements"? Is this stuff you are just making up in your own head? To my knowledge, this is all we actually know about the project. Read below:
"Founded in 2176 and launched in 2185, the Andromeda Initiative is a civilian, multi-species project created to send scientists, explorers and colonists on a one-way trip to settle in the Andromeda Galaxy. With powerful benefactors lending their support, the program has grown substantially in scope since its inception. The Initiative’s ultimate goal is to establish a permanent presence on the seemingly resource-rich frontier of Andromeda, and eventually create a reliable route between it and the Milky Way Galaxy."
www.masseffect.com/andromeda-initiative/training-hub/welcome
There are only 20,000 humans on Hyperion when it launches, which if you think about the actual population of Earth that's a very small number. In other words, there's no suggestion at all everybody and their mother is aware of this project, nor that they have the money to be a part of it. Again, you are assuming and making inferences without any actual evidence. Just because you believe Shepard should have been aware doesn't mean he/she was. Your dates are also off because the Arks launch while Shepard is still likely dead. The year they launch is the year Cerberus revives Shepard, which is 2185 CE. Even if Shepard is alive, nobody would know he's alive at this point other than Cerberus. Everybody is aware that Shepard saved the Citadel and is the famous human Spectre. They just aren't aware of the Reapers, which were falsely reported as being Geth technology. So, you think they're going to pull people out of their ass to put them on an ark ship and send them across the universe to another galaxy? Scientists and explorers are easy to get; you follow resumes. But they're getting colonists, those are regular people. How would they get those people without there being a way to let the public at large know that such a thing existed. And the population count means nothing other than the fact that out of the billions of humans, they narrowed their selection of people to go on their journey down to 20,000. Perfect analog here is the private venture to Mars within the next few years: 7 billion people know about that. Hundreds, if not thousands of regular people have been auditioning for a chance to make a one way trip to Mars; only a handful will get chosen for the first launch. No project of this magnitude would get the non-trade individuals without some form of advertisement, that's nothing but linear logic. Everyone and their mothers don't need to be aware of the project for there to be campaigns for it. Most people aren't aware of the planned trip to Mars by a private company that's intended to be a one way trip within the next ten years. Also, Bioware has already said that the Arks leave in between 2 and 3; Shepard would be revived and fighting the Collectors by time they actually leave. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 4:28:15 GMT
So, you think they're going to pull people out of their ass to put them on an ark ship and send them across the universe to another galaxy? Scientists and explorers are easy to get; you follow resumes. But they're getting colonists, those are regular people. How would they get those people without there being a way to let the public at large know that such a thing existed. And the population count means nothing other than the fact that out of the billions of humans, they narrowed their selection of people to go on their journey down to 20,000. Perfect analog here is the private venture to Mars within the next few years: 7 billion people know about that. Hundreds, if not thousands of regular people have been auditioning for a chance to make a one way trip to Mars; only a handful will get chosen for the first launch. No project of this magnitude would get the non-trade individuals without some form of advertisement, that's nothing but linear logic. Everyone and their mothers don't need to be aware of the project for there to be campaigns for it. Most people aren't aware of the planned trip to Mars by a private company that's intended to be a one way trip within the next ten years. Also, Bioware has already said that the Arks leave in between 2 and 3; Shepard would be revived and fighting the Collectors by time they actually leave. Again, where is your evidence the Andromeda Initiative was advertising to the entire galaxy like this was some sort of infomercial? You have no evidence. You are just making stuff up in your head. Obviously, the Andromeda Initiative was going out and searching for particular individuals that they needed for the project. This wasn't selling girl scout cookies on the Citadel. You don't know who they are getting. You assume they are "regular people." There's nothing "regular" about this mission at all. It seems all these individuals were pre-selected for very special reasons. Contrary to what you believe, I don't believe anyone could just join in. No. The selection pool was never even that big to begin with. Honestly. I understand you don't want to be wrong, but you are just taking ridiculous stances at this point. The Anrdomeda Initiative definitely sounds like an exclusive organization that only an individual with specific connections would be aware of. Your evidence is comparing what you hope the Andromedia Initiative is doing to a unrelated project in the real world? Wonderful evidence. Most of the individuals going on this trip are scientists and explorers. The rest are settlers, although BioWare has never specified who any of these people are. If I had to guess, they aren't just your random Joe Shmoes who signed up randomly because he heard about it on the television. I'm fairly certain the Ai found these individuals on their own. What we actually know is that the arks leave in 2185 CE, which is the year Shepard is revived and goes on the Suicide Mission. We don't have actual dates and have no idea the actual chronological order of these events. Regardless, no one was aware that Shepard was alive nor did they know anything about the Collectors, so it's a moot point. |
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