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Post by Madflavor on Feb 24, 2017 4:25:40 GMT
I think this implies one of two things:
1. The Kett are the dominant force in the Helius Cluster, who are trying to take control, and there's a faction of the Angara race that's putting up a fight against them. 2. There's civil war within the Angara.
Personally I find the former to be the most likely.
I find this interesting because in the OT, right from the getgo the galaxy was for the most part at peace. There was tension between some races, but for the most part there was unification between most of them, and a Galactic Community had been established. That doesn't seem to be the case in Andromeda so far. I think this creates a lot of promise in the story, because while the whole "Rebellion against a strong dominant force" is a familiar concept in fiction, I like the unique angle that's being taken here.
That angle is us. Imagine if Martians existed, and Earth and Mars had been at war with each other for a few decades, and it's all a lot of us ever knew. But then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, large forces of a variety of extraterrestrial beings arrive in our cluster. There's a pretty interesting story to be told from that. If I'm right on this, I like where this is heading.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 24, 2017 4:29:50 GMT
I think this implies one of two things: 1. The Kett are the dominant force in the Helius Cluster, who are trying to take control, and there's a faction of the Angara race that's putting up a fight against them. 2. There's civil war within the Angara. Personally I find the former to be the most likely. I find this interesting because in the OT, right from the getgo the galaxy was for the most part at peace. There was tension between some races, but for the most part there was unification between most of them, and a Galactic Community had been established. That doesn't seem to be the case in Andromeda so far. I think this creates a lot of promise in the story, because while the whole "Rebellion against a strong dominant force" is a familiar concept in fiction, I like the unique angle that's being taken here. That angle is us. Imagine if Martians existed, and Earth and Mars had been at war with each other for a few decades, and it's all a lot of us ever knew. But then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, large forces of a variety of extraterrestrial beings arrive in our cluster. There's a pretty interesting story to be told from that. If I'm right on this, I like where this is heading. I feel its a bit of a combination between Blackwall (Wardens) and Sera (Friends of Red Jenny).
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Post by snook on Feb 24, 2017 4:30:16 GMT
Yeah...my hunch based on nothing other than...hunches, is that the Angara are a very peace loving race, and Jaal is someone who's tired of his people letting the Kett walk all over them. So he hops on with the much less peace loving race that showed up.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Feb 24, 2017 4:30:36 GMT
I am thinking of the Angara like the Thermians in galaxy quest and the Archon is Sarris. I think we will be Jaal's Obi-wan. Not to confuse sci-fi universes.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 24, 2017 4:31:26 GMT
This was something I'd predicted as the most likely scenario for our then unknown "friendly species" last spring. It's a cool discussion, but probably belongs in the Jaal thread or character forum.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 24, 2017 4:34:27 GMT
This was something I'd predicted as the most likely scenario for our then unknown "friendly species" last spring. It's a cool discussion, but probably belongs in the Jaal thread or character forum. Well, resistance fighter implies a war, somewhere. I think this has enough political motive to be fine in this section. Speculating about the politics of the game and such.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 24, 2017 4:35:49 GMT
Given some of my speculations on the plot I think TaliWhacker is onto something. I think its a combination of certain factors yet there is a resource shortage in Heleus, people and races are fighting over resources because of what I imagine to be central plot related reasons. So...the Kett may be dominant, the Angarra not so much, but both of them are fighting over scraps. I too think it likely the Angarra are more peaceful which does not help them, and Jaal wants to do something about it, over all the larger problem of the lack of resources, and something to do with the Kett.
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Post by Madflavor on Feb 24, 2017 4:37:21 GMT
This was something I'd predicted as the most likely scenario for our then unknown "friendly species" last spring. It's a cool discussion, but probably belongs in the Jaal thread or character forum. Well, resistance fighter implies a war, somewhere. I think this has enough political motive to be fine in this section. Speculating about the politics of the game and such. To be clear, that is my intention.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 24, 2017 4:38:46 GMT
Many Star Wars/Star Trek vibes this games has
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Post by colfoley on Feb 24, 2017 4:39:44 GMT
Many Star Wars/Star Trek vibes this games has I still am getting more of a Stargate Atlantis/ Stargate Universe vibe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:40:24 GMT
My personaly take is that the Kett are Prothean like in their dominance or are close to it with help from the Remnant giving them an edge. So this almost falls in line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:40:56 GMT
Don't forget the combat vid with the "Resistance Trap" mission after meeting with the Commander failed. Could be connected.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 24, 2017 4:42:12 GMT
If the kett are terraforming planets in the horrific image of Habitat 7, one could see why the angara might not be on good terms with the kett.
Ever since they revealed both species' faces up close and in detail (Trailer #2), I've thought they share a certain marked similarity. I wonder if the kett were once angara? This idea is one I don't think all that likely, but I haven't completely dismissed it. The facial structure and eyes are so similar, if you put aside the ossified carapace of the kett.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 24, 2017 4:44:38 GMT
If the kett are terraforming planets in the horrific image of Habitat 7, one could see why the angara might not be on good terms with the kett. Ever since they revealed both species' faces up close and in detail (Trailer #2), I've thought they share a certain marked similarity. I wonder if the kett were once angara? This idea is one I don't think all that likely, but I haven't completely dismissed it. The facial structure and eyes are so similar, if you put aside the ossified carapace of the kett. I don't think its the Kett, and I doubt much 'terraforming' is going on.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 24, 2017 4:48:27 GMT
If the kett are terraforming planets in the horrific image of Habitat 7, one could see why the angara might not be on good terms with the kett. Ever since they revealed both species' faces up close and in detail (Trailer #2), I've thought they share a certain marked similarity. I wonder if the kett were once angara? This idea is one I don't think all that likely, but I haven't completely dismissed it. The facial structure and eyes are so similar, if you put aside the ossified carapace of the kett. I don't think its the Kett, and I doubt much 'terraforming' is going on. We don't know the Archon's intentions, yet. Habitat 7 could be precisely what he intended, or what he was looking for and thus intends. (It seems obvious that the tech involved is remnant tech.) Just a thought, based upon gathered data. It could be way off target.
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Post by kirasdream on Feb 24, 2017 4:59:22 GMT
I don't think its the Kett, and I doubt much 'terraforming' is going on. We don't know the Archon's intentions, yet. Habitat 7 could be precisely what he intended, or what he was looking for and thus intends. (It seems obvious that the tech involved is remnant tech.) Just a thought, based upon gathered data. It could be way off target. Actually that does make sense. In a spanish article (I'm taking this from the twitter thread and I in no way speak Spanish) they talked about the Kett terraforming planets. The scourge--or whatever that black gold tendrils are--surrounding H7 could be their means of terraforming. Archon is ticked at Ryder since they can interact with Remnant technology; checking out the latest trailer with the Archon having tubes(?) connected to him might mean that Kett can't naturally do it?
As for the Angara fighting against the Kett vs. Civil War, it may be a mixture of both. We see the Angara entering some type of pod(?) in the N7 day trailer with ominous music, and some shots of various fighting footage show the angara (though they were in league with bandits and such).
Though I could be just making random rants in my sleep deprived state that totes makes sense right now but later on will be crack.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 24, 2017 5:04:56 GMT
We don't know the Archon's intentions, yet. Habitat 7 could be precisely what he intended, or what he was looking for and thus intends. (It seems obvious that the tech involved is remnant tech.) Just a thought, based upon gathered data. It could be way off target. Actually that does make sense. In a spanish article (I'm taking this from the twitter thread and I in no way speak Spanish) they talked about the Kett terraforming planets. The scourge--or whatever that black gold tendrils are--surrounding H7 could be their means of terraforming. Archon is ticked at Ryder since they can interact with Remnant technology; checking out the latest trailer with the Archon having tubes(?) connected to him might mean that Kett can't naturally do it?
As for the Angara fighting against the Kett vs. Civil War, it may be a mixture of both. We see the Angara entering some type of pod(?) in the N7 day trailer with ominous music, and some shots of various fighting footage show the angara (though they were in league with bandits and such).
Though I could be just making random rants in my sleep deprived state that totes makes sense right now but later on will be crack. If this is accurate, I've guessed pretty well.
It seemed likely to me that the Archon came to Habitat 7 for the Scourge, or at least for the remnant tech; and that he then encouraged the "growth" of the Scourge. Thus, my "terraforming" reference.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 24, 2017 5:08:42 GMT
I don't think its the Kett, and I doubt much 'terraforming' is going on. We don't know the Archon's intentions, yet. Habitat 7 could be precisely what he intended, or what he was looking for and thus intends. (It seems obvious that the tech involved is remnant tech.) Just a thought, based upon gathered data. It could be way off target. The plot thickens. Could very well be why we are "special". I was personally thinking us being special had something to do with S.A.M. and our father, but now I'm not so sure it isn't because of the remnant. Tin foil hat theory here but it could possibly be that father has a plan for this planet we visit in the beginning and he wants to unlock some power from remnant technology. There is an accident and He's about to die and tells you what to do to get the power. He then says you are the new pathfinder and dies.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 24, 2017 5:10:48 GMT
Actually that does make sense. In a spanish article (I'm taking this from the twitter thread and I in no way speak Spanish) they talked about the Kett terraforming planets. The scourge--or whatever that black gold tendrils are--surrounding H7 could be their means of terraforming. Archon is ticked at Ryder since they can interact with Remnant technology; checking out the latest trailer with the Archon having tubes(?) connected to him might mean that Kett can't naturally do it?
As for the Angara fighting against the Kett vs. Civil War, it may be a mixture of both. We see the Angara entering some type of pod(?) in the N7 day trailer with ominous music, and some shots of various fighting footage show the angara (though they were in league with bandits and such).
Though I could be just making random rants in my sleep deprived state that totes makes sense right now but later on will be crack. If this is accurate, I've guessed pretty well.
It seemed likely to me that the Archon came to Habitat 7 for the Scourge, or at least for the remnant tech; and that he then encouraged the "growth" of the Scourge. Thus, my "terraforming" reference. Just leaving this here in case I was right: bsn.boards.net/thread/3775/prediction-sorts?page=1
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 24, 2017 5:14:38 GMT
Yeah...my hunch based on nothing other than...hunches, is that the Angara are a very peace loving race, and Jaal is someone who's tired of his people letting the Kett walk all over them. So he hops on with the much less peace loving race that showed up. That profile pic tho... hahah On topic: Jaal is an Angara
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 24, 2017 5:19:56 GMT
We don't know the Archon's intentions, yet. Habitat 7 could be precisely what he intended, or what he was looking for and thus intends. (It seems obvious that the tech involved is remnant tech.) Just a thought, based upon gathered data. It could be way off target. The plot thickens. Could very well be why we are "special". I was personally thinking us being special had something to do with S.A.M. and our father, but now I'm not so sure it isn't because of the remnant. Tin foil hat theory here but it could possibly be that father has a plan for this planet we visit in the beginning and he wants to unlock some power from remnant technology. There is an accident and He's about to die and tells you what to do to get the power. He then says you are the new pathfinder and dies. I do wonder if the whole AI wasn't about getting at the remnant tech. I'm not sure if they knew for certain it was there, or if they just saw that "black hole" and knew something was hinky. Ryder's being "special" in the sense of being able to access remnant tech would fit that Archon scene. To elaborate on my suspicions regarding the Archon, I believe he likely came to Habitat 7 specifically for the Scourge, or for the remnant tech that presumably unleashed it. He then likely encouraged the proliferation of the Scourge. That was the source of my "terraforming" comment. I could be entirely wrong. I don't think they'll kill Alec so quickly. He'll clearly disappear from the story, in some fashion; but I don't think he will die. It wouldn't be impactful so early in the game (Habitat 7). I have some inkling as to why the younger Ryder returns from Habitat 7 as Pathfinder, but I'd be treading close to spoiler territory in discussing it, so I'll refrain.
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Post by missileglitcher on Feb 24, 2017 5:20:00 GMT
it has absolutely no implications. any theories that are based solely on those two words are purely speculative and have an almost zero chance of being true. might as well start speculating and devising theories on dragon age 4.
anyway, i am sure there will be several huge lore-breaking plot holes within the game to explain this character and his role within the story.
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