I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise?

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 10:15:55 GMT

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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 10:15:55 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 9:53:53 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 7:32:14 GMT Cypher said:

No limit on weapon combos.

The most recent IGN video is the perfect demonstration of this since whoever was playing had three assault rifles and one sniper rifle (which also resulted in abysmally long cooldown times).

I counted the cooldown time for overload in the IGN video and it was 30 seconds.

I believe that whatever choices we make (weapon's weight, ability development etc ) we will never be able to get shorter cooldowns than 9-10 seconds in this game.
I personally like this.
Space magic is cool but I didn't like seeing players using an ability every 3 seconds.

Well, since there seams to be quite margin when it comes to weight, I doubt anyone outside a soldier will have major problems with cool down penalties.

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Looking at this, you can easily carry two weapons (one of which is a heavy shotgun) with plenty of weight to spare...

...did hold the line.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 10:41:53 GMT

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Post by longshadow on Mar 3, 2017 10:41:53 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 10:15:55 GMT warbaby2 said:

Mar 3, 2017 9:53:53 GMT longshadow said:

I counted the cooldown time for overload in the IGN video and it was 30 seconds.

I believe that whatever choices we make (weapon's weight, ability development etc ) we will never be able to get shorter cooldowns than 9-10 seconds in this game.
I personally like this.
Space magic is cool but I didn't like seeing players using an ability every 3 seconds.

Well, since there seams to be quite margin when it comes to weight, I doubt anyone outside a soldier will have major problems with cool down penalties.

Looking at this, you can easily carry two weapons (one of which is a heavy shotgun) with plenty of weight to spare...

Yes, you can easily avoid the cooldown penalties but there aren't cooldown bonuses anymore. (recharge speed tops at 100%)

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 10:50:26 GMT

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Post by longshadow on Mar 3, 2017 10:50:26 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 10:05:06 GMT Cypher said:

Mar 3, 2017 9:53:53 GMT longshadow said:

I counted the cooldown time for overload in the IGN video and it was 30 seconds.

I believe that whatever choices we make (weapon's weight, ability development etc ) we will never be able to get shorter cooldowns than 9-10 seconds in this game.
I personally like this.
Space magic is cool but I didn't like seeing players using an ability every 3 seconds.

Considering there's abilities that don't have cooldowns at all, I'm sure we can get them lower than 10 and the game is balanced for it.

Either way, the cooldowns in the IGN video weren't optimal at all and were akin to level 1 with no points in fitness.

You mean the consumables, like mines, grenades etc?

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT

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Post by Wulfram on Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 10:50:26 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 10:05:06 GMT Cypher said:

Considering there's abilities that don't have cooldowns at all, I'm sure we can get them lower than 10 and the game is balanced for it.

Either way, the cooldowns in the IGN video weren't optimal at all and were akin to level 1 with no points in fitness.

You mean the consumables, like mines, grenades etc?

There's Nova and Lance that consume shields instead of being on a cooldown (they may need upgrades to do it)

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 11:10:07 GMT

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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 11:10:07 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 10:41:53 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 10:15:55 GMT warbaby2 said:

Well, since there seams to be quite margin when it comes to weight, I doubt anyone outside a soldier will have major problems with cool down penalties.

Looking at this, you can easily carry two weapons (one of which is a heavy shotgun) with plenty of weight to spare...

Yes, you can easily avoid the cooldown penalties but there aren't cooldown bonuses anymore. (recharge speed tops at 100%)

True, as i stated above... there might be weapons/upgrades/skills/other gear that reduces CDs even further, though.

...did hold the line.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 11:25:42 GMT

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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 3, 2017 11:25:42 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 7:32:14 GMT Cypher said:

Mar 3, 2017 7:28:32 GMT PillarBiter said:

So 2 for starters and 4 if you level up, for every class. That's actually pretty cool!

Although I only plan on using one: The Revenant^TM

Here's a real question: Does anyone know if we can carry 2 different assault rifles? Or 2 different sniper rifles?

No limit on weapon combos.

The most recent IGN video is the perfect demonstration of this since whoever was playing had three assault rifles and one sniper rifle (which also resulted in abysmally long cooldown times).

Waaaaaiiit a minute! Hold the phone! Stop the presses!

Does this mean I can bring a revenant, a mattock and the grenade launcher assault rifle, so I have an assault rifle for every range and situation, while ONLY investing in the passive assault rifles?

I'm loving this game so much! It's like they went berserk with the combat options! The game will be so much FUN!

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT

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Post by longshadow on Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT Wulfram said:

Mar 3, 2017 10:50:26 GMT longshadow said:

You mean the consumables, like mines, grenades etc?

There's Nova and Lance that consume shields instead of being on a cooldown (they may need upgrades to do it)

And what do you need to replenish the lost shields?
Find a cover and stay still.
In other words you still need...time.

As I said before I like to use the abilities and pull off combos, I'm not an "only weapons" kind of player.
I just think that the +200% bonus that ME3 had was over the top.

Being able to biotic charge enemies every 4 seconds (and win back your barrier 100% while doing it) cannot be called balanced gameplay.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 13:21:57 GMT

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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 3, 2017 13:21:57 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT Wulfram said:

There's Nova and Lance that consume shields instead of being on a cooldown (they may need upgrades to do it)

I just think that the +200% bonus that ME3 had was over the top.

It was. And now that abilities have a separate cooldown, having 200% cooldown would make it impossible to balance the game.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 14:51:12 GMT hammerstorm likes this

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Post by Wulfram on Mar 3, 2017 14:51:12 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT Wulfram said:

There's Nova and Lance that consume shields instead of being on a cooldown (they may need upgrades to do it)

And what do you need to replenish the lost shields?
Find a cover and stay still.
In other words you still need...time.

As I said before I like to use the abilities and pull off combos, I'm not an "only weapons" kind of player.
I just think that the +200% bonus that ME3 had was over the top.

Being able to biotic charge enemies every 4 seconds (and win back your barrier 100% while doing it) cannot be called balanced gameplay.

What do I need to replenish the lost shields?

Charge! Gain shields by punching people (vanguard profile ability). Use the shield draining effect that Annihilation seems to have

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 14:59:30 GMT hammerstorm and _Wolf Rider_ like this

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Post by Beerfish on Mar 3, 2017 14:59:30 GMT

Next question?

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 15:07:02 GMT via mobile

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Post by stysiaq on Mar 3, 2017 15:07:02 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 8:13:11 GMT colfoley said:

For my soldier I plan on running two snipers an AR and a pistol eventually.

4 swords or you are a scrub that needs crutches like ranged combat.

The Polish Phoenix. I also did the official Biotic Mastery alternate banner with Deerber as the model.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 15:25:31 GMT colfoley likes this

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Post by hammerstorm on Mar 3, 2017 15:25:31 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 15:07:02 GMT stysiaq said:

Mar 3, 2017 8:13:11 GMT colfoley said:

For my soldier I plan on running two snipers an AR and a pistol eventually.

4 swords or you are a scrub that needs crutches like ranged combat.

But I just cleaned my armor and don't want to get dirty enemy blood on it, thank you very much. :gentleman:

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 15:35:39 GMT

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Post by longshadow on Mar 3, 2017 15:35:39 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 14:51:12 GMT Wulfram said:

Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT longshadow said:

And what do you need to replenish the lost shields?
Find a cover and stay still.
In other words you still need...time.

As I said before I like to use the abilities and pull off combos, I'm not an "only weapons" kind of player.
I just think that the +200% bonus that ME3 had was over the top.

Being able to biotic charge enemies every 4 seconds (and win back your barrier 100% while doing it) cannot be called balanced gameplay.

What do I need to replenish the lost shields?

Charge! Gain shields by punching people (vanguard profile ability). Use the shield draining effect that Annihilation seems to have

Ok, let's say that once you charge you'll have to wait 15 seconds until your next charge.
Does this time feels like a lot to you or not?

Also, while Annihilation is active your other two abilities recharge 100-120% slower.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 15:46:40 GMT

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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 15:46:40 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 14:59:30 GMT Beerfish said:

Next question?

Haha... I think this kind of equipment only works if employed with that exact facial expression. Otherwise he probably would just keel over.

...did hold the line.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 21:49:06 GMT

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Post by Cypher on Mar 3, 2017 21:49:06 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 12:48:47 GMT longshadow said:

Mar 3, 2017 11:00:06 GMT Wulfram said:

There's Nova and Lance that consume shields instead of being on a cooldown (they may need upgrades to do it)

And what do you need to replenish the lost shields?
Find a cover and stay still.
In other words you still need...time.

As I said before I like to use the abilities and pull off combos, I'm not an "only weapons" kind of player.
I just think that the +200% bonus that ME3 had was over the top.

Being able to biotic charge enemies every 4 seconds (and win back your barrier 100% while doing it) cannot be called balanced gameplay.

Why go into cover when you can do lance>nova>charge>nova>lance>charge?

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 3, 2017 21:58:23 GMT

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Post by helios969 on Mar 3, 2017 21:58:23 GMT

200%...100%, it's kind of arbitrary. It really depends on how they scale and balance everything. It doesn't matter, I'll always maintain the lightest load-out to ensure best recharge times.

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 4, 2017 2:18:28 GMT

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Post by _Wolf Rider_ on Mar 4, 2017 2:18:28 GMT

I'm going to take all the Combat Fitness skills that open new weapon slots just so I can bring with a pistol (backup weapon when other 3 weapons run dry),

assault rifle (been my favorite through the Mass Effect trilogy), shotgun (for real up close and personal) and sniper rifle (so I can reach out and touch you).

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I am confuzzled; how do we carry more than two weapons, gameplay wise? Mar 4, 2017 6:51:40 GMT

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Post by Sifr on Mar 4, 2017 6:51:40 GMT

Mar 3, 2017 2:08:22 GMT bshep said:

Four at once! :hue:

Like it used to be in ME1.

I like to think that either the Alliance screwed up and ordered too many weapons for their troops in ME1.

Or if you want to get dark... the Alliance briefly operated under an extremely ruthless approach, where the first soldiers on the ground are never expected to survive an engagement. The extra weapons are for the soldiers who replace them, and so on, meaning Alliance forces never have to worry about running out of weapons on the battlefield.

But I much more prefer the first one.

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