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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 3, 2017 17:51:43 GMT
Wow, I was not expecting this...
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Post by ladiesman777 on Mar 3, 2017 17:59:38 GMT
When your talking with someone irl, tone is important
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 3, 2017 18:07:18 GMT
I can't believe he didn't go check on his Sister. Scoundrel!
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Post by DoomMarine23 on Mar 3, 2017 18:09:40 GMT
It is simply an expansion of the system Bioware has experimented with since DA:2 into DA:I. When you think about it, Paragon and Renegade was the same concept but more simplistic and less nuanced. Paragon was typically peaceful and Renegade was typically angry/impulsive and they also bundled moral choices into those two roles.
Frankly, as they made it clear they wish to make choices and morality more nuanced and gray, I think a system like this is perfectly fine. We'll have to see how it works out in game, obviously, but I am not too worried.
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 3, 2017 18:09:42 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 18:19:07 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade. Absolutely, makes much more sense... and it's more diverse then just "goody-two-shoes" or "jerk"... or even "benevolent", "funny" or "cranky". Also: We can probably use them to talk to different people in a different tone without coming of a schizoid.
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Post by mango1smoothie on Mar 3, 2017 18:27:56 GMT
I like the father issues that seem to be playing a role in the story. I'll probably roleplay my character with huge resentment towards Alec and only coming on this expedition because of the other sibling going.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 3, 2017 18:33:23 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade. To make it even better, dialogue options were inspired by Star Trek captains: Casual - Kirk Professional - Picard-Shepard mixture Analytical - Picard-Spock mixture Emotional - Sisko-Kirk mixture
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Post by TaliWhacker on Mar 3, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
Hopefully Fallout 4 keeps itself far away from Andromedas dialogue system. Hmmm, I think I will go with the sarcastic option. Click. "I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL!" Uhmmmm... That was angry. Bethesda totally understands sarcasm.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Mar 3, 2017 18:45:54 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade. To make it even better, dialogue options were inspired by Star Trek captains: Casual - Kirk Professional - Picard-Shepard mixture Analytical - Picard-Spock mixture Emotional - Sisko-Kirk mixture I was really hoping for a Borg Picard option.
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Post by Amirit on Mar 3, 2017 19:24:56 GMT
Now THAT is a preview! I even want to thank IGN for that. I am sold. Not "run and pre-order" sold, but I will buy the game for sure.
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Post by deebo305 on Mar 3, 2017 19:27:11 GMT
So far I like what see, keeps the organic feeling of the Paragon/Renegade system but allows more options. The tones definitely feel better here than they did in Inquisition, less robotic and ham fisted an more like two people having a real conversation or argument as was later shown with Alec Ryder
Definitely looking forward to more
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 3, 2017 20:18:32 GMT
Now THAT is a preview! I even want to thank IGN for that. I am sold. Not "run and pre-order" sold, but I will buy the game for sure. Actually Bioware did the video, only gave IGN to upload it. Probably for the best, as people are blaming IGN for being heartless with Scott not checking up on Sara.
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Post by leonick on Mar 3, 2017 20:25:35 GMT
Not really. Yes, four primary choices of dialogue but that wasn't the issue with Fallout 4... Issue if FO4 is that they make no difference and there is rarely and branching / investigative choices.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 3, 2017 20:27:22 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade. It's only better if it allows the same scope of choice. I'm still rather worried that there may very well be a lack of range.
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Post by Amirit on Mar 3, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
Now THAT is a preview! I even want to thank IGN for that. I am sold. Not "run and pre-order" sold, but I will buy the game for sure. Actually Bioware did the video, only gave IGN to upload it. Probably for the best, as people are blaming IGN for being heartless with Scott not checking up on Sara. I wonder if IGN posted that vid to improve their rating on youtube Because they already got thousands likes over negatives unlike the previous video with more than half negatives.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 3, 2017 21:06:56 GMT
Fallout 4 NPC: Here's a quest. Do you want it?
Yes. No (NPC gives you a quest anyway). Sarcastic (Yes). Hate newspaper (Yes).
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Post by Gray Jedi on Mar 3, 2017 21:15:35 GMT
Glad the DA2 personality system was brought back much better then paragon/renegade imo.
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 3, 2017 22:21:23 GMT
Casual, professional, logical and emotional. Honestly I think that a much better system than paragon/renegade. It's only better if it allows the same scope of choice. I'm still rather worried that there may very well be a lack of range. The thing was that the old system was very flawed. Every decision had to be categorised as either paragon or renegade, there were no grey areas which made some decisions kinda...off. Remember Legions loyalty mission? How the two choices were to essentially brainwash the geth or kill them. Neither choice was exactly 'paragon' but the game was forced to categorise one of them as the 'good' choice. So it chose brainwash. The new system allows for a lot more grey area interactions that are based off of one of the four different response types that would make sense in a given situation. Whereas you used to be either paragon or renegade, the new system essentially allows you to successfully play 'paragade' and 'renegon' as well. Its also important to note that some people are afraid that the new options will remove some of the options of the past. The investigate, conversation progression and flirt options still exist. The difference is that what used to be two options (paragon/renegade) are not four options (logical,emotional,casual,professional). Lastly, it helps remove the whole bipolar thing that would happen with Shepard when you tried to play a mix of paragon and renegade. How he/she would sometimes be super nice to someone before, in the same conversation, screaming at them over a single decision. It was kinda odd.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 4, 2017 2:21:34 GMT
Incorrect.
Fallout 4 is :
> Okay > I will > Eh, fine. > How do I do this?
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 7, 2017 21:05:29 GMT
SO you actually think this new system is bad? lol.
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