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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 3, 2017 18:21:15 GMT
So...it seems Influence is back! I just wonder if it can be purchased from that guy in Skyhold again.
This time, instead of Diplomacy, Espionage, and Military, we have Merchants, Scientists, and, uhm, Military!
Based on the exploration video, one of the perks under the Merchants tree is to have a supply of credits arrive every so often. Sounds nice, very AC2 to check your vault.
I only wish though that it's possible to max out all perks and wake everyone up. It kinda doesn't make sense to leave people in cryo stasis -- we should find a way to free everyone, ayt? I have a feeling some of the perks are kinda crap...so were they in Inquisition (Hello, Leliana! Got more Elfroot for me?), so I hope there's a nice way to balance these perks early on for a good advantage but eventually get all needed perks to level up.
Thoughts?
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 3, 2017 18:23:07 GMT
Good, I enjoyed that feature in DA:I!
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 3, 2017 18:24:17 GMT
Good, I enjoyed that feature in DA:I! +1. I enjoyed how it could effect what you'd be remembered for at the end of the game too. |
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 3, 2017 18:27:43 GMT
Me too!
Though in all my playthroughs, I would always go for the Knowledge perks first automatically. And then find a way to unlock Deft Hands. Which is hard because there really was very little of value in Leliana's tree so I'd have to wait for some agents. Then extra XP from research materials, from killing beasts, extra 10% defence, and then Josephine's three perks that unlock the vault, then Josie's perks that have merchants offer exclusive goods (to get T3 schematics)....and then finally extra focus.
Screw Cullen's horsemanship perks
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 18:28:20 GMT
I bet you can max them all... for DAI, there was no real end goal to the system, you just kept gaining power. Here you have to wake up colonists, and at some point you want to wake them all up, I guess.  |
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Post by Beerfish on Mar 3, 2017 18:30:02 GMT
I found the war table rewards though i did them often were not worth much. Get 6 onyx for doing a mission? I can walk in that map for 5 minutes and get 20 onyx.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 3, 2017 18:30:27 GMT
Plus it does make more sense. You *need* to wake everyone up. That's kind of the point of being the Pathfinder. Finding worlds for people to live. If some hundred people have to stay in cryo...that's gotta suck.
It didn't make sense in Inquisition. "Oh Leliana, can you teach me to cut more herbs?" "No. Go build more camps"
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 3, 2017 18:41:44 GMT
I don't believe that it was possible to get all DAI perks, though you could certainly get all of the useful ones.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 3, 2017 18:47:39 GMT
Doesn't make sense to me that you choose which type of people to wake up. You can't have one colony full of only traders and one colony full of only scientists and so on.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 3, 2017 18:49:53 GMT
Well, the people you'd have to wake up to make any colony work wouldn't warrant a decision, right? That would just be automatic.
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Post by jastall on Mar 3, 2017 19:03:07 GMT
Cool. These were good features in DAI. I was more ambivalent towards the War Table, which doesn't seem to have an equivalent here.
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Mar 3, 2017 21:16:11 GMT
I bet you can max them all... for DAI, there was no real end goal to the system, you just kept gaining power. Here you have to wake up colonists, and at some point you want to wake them all up, I guess. I don't know that you'll be able to... I hope you won't. You couldn't in DAI. Your influence level had a hard cap at 20, so you could get a ton of the perks, and certainly the most useful ones, but there were still choices you had to make. |
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Post by helios969 on Mar 3, 2017 21:27:59 GMT
I didn't really mind the mechanic in DAI, I just thought it could have been done much better...and hopefully it is for MEA. More meaningful impact and better rewards would be a good start.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 3, 2017 22:10:28 GMT
All the Science.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 3, 2017 22:28:16 GMT
I bet you can max them all... for DAI, there was no real end goal to the system, you just kept gaining power. Here you have to wake up colonists, and at some point you want to wake them all up, I guess. I don't know that you'll be able to... I hope you won't. You couldn't in DAI. Your influence level had a hard cap at 20, so you could get a ton of the perks, and certainly the most useful ones, but there were still choices you had to make. Mechanically, I agree, but within the logic of the game, all those perks are there already, the people giving them to you are just asleep... |
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Post by Jurus on Mar 3, 2017 23:08:55 GMT
Cool. These were good features in DAI. I was more ambivalent towards the War Table, which doesn't seem to have an equivalent here. According to Eurogamer But there will be a way to complete them using multiplayer instead. |
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 4, 2017 0:58:34 GMT
I don't know that you'll be able to... I hope you won't. You couldn't in DAI. Your influence level had a hard cap at 20, so you could get a ton of the perks, and certainly the most useful ones, but there were still choices you had to make. Mechanically, I agree, but within the logic of the game, all those perks are there already, the people giving them to you are just asleep... Well, not exactly. There would also be training time involved for the Inquisitor to learn Optimal Cutting, Advanced Focus, or whatever. The Inquisitor wouldn't be able to learn everything the minute she stepped into Skyhold. Though Influence is a lousy proxy for time. Many of the perks do depend on other people, though these are generally bad perks. |
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