How in the hell can PUGs STILL be this bad?

Yeah, I understand you, I like to try new things too. But I'd rather play quick game with people who know what they're doing and move on than play with pugs with Predators for example. I do not like grinding. That's a game killer to me. But you know, everyone have a different preferences.

Also look at the "Your last PUG in one word" thread. How many complaints people wrote about a game which went too fast? And how many complaints about stupid builds, pug behaviour etc. is there?

Crap, I'm not getting revived 

some of us just like to rotate through kits and weapons a lot, does that make us unworthy of revives?
Half of your list are factors that make me quit a pug lobby these days, let alone reviving, guess I am an elitist

I completely agree with your post. To each their own of course, but I'd rather get a challenging match while sporting sub-optimal loadouts than rush through two matches where I have to pray a spawn drops in the right spot for a chance of contributing. I had a gold pug yesterday go over 30 minutes, because my HAdept with her Phalanx had to carry 2 and a half pugs (one quit on wave 6, sorry cleaning up on my own took so long, you would have been happy I saved my missiles when we got targets on wave 10) kicking and screaming vs collectors, and I had no regrets at the end; just as I had none in leaving lobbies with plat speedrun loadouts, and the N7 and CP to go with that. Then again, I am a slow reptile, so rushing is not in my nature that's probably why I think gold is best experienced in a duo actually


None of this applies to games with friends. I know the players there, their tendencies and how they approach the game, so I go into matches fully knowing what to expect. Which is why I thoroughly enjoyed running a goofy BatSent with Sonashii and Docsteely yesterday, trying to get as many different kills as possible and meleeing (not the heavy variant) 3 primes to death - talk about the Executioner

If you play with the group I play with then everyone is fair game to cook in the Reactor no matter who you are or what you're kitted with!

^^^
There are a couple of posters above you who I owe a good cooking!

had a lot of failed silvers recently, which has been hella frustrating, never had so many before, but I've noticed there is a dramatic upswing in new players, which I see as extremely positive. I think while frustrating now it'll be better in the long run, presumably new players are getting into the series and MP before Andromeda's release.

Well, I fall into at least 3 of those categories (GI, Incendiary Reegar, pretty absurd amount of CPs (~130k or so). 

No GI! You Salarians are racist!

While I don't use an incendiary Reegar on an AIU, I certainly do on a Batsol and Krosol .. way more cheesy ...

That was probably more the exception than the rule: Gold pugs are generally just as worthless.

Meh, I had two back to back fails on gold. I took a shower, watched some porn, took another shower then regrouped.

Kind of having the opposite experience on XB with pugs, been running gold for almost a week and pleasantly surprised, they actually use gear....lol, only issue is objectives, they just for the most part are off killing and why oh why do players run to the LZ at 2 min......I wait for them to die then head in.

When I feel like being an ass I just do it on my main account.  cba to roll an alt because then i have to relog origin

Ahh, no worries! Technically, I wasn't one of us yet, my account didn't get verified until this morning. I appreciate the thought, though!

Besides, with the amount I was dying on Dagger, even with a TGI, I would've gotten fed up reviving me too.