Playing as a Reluctant Member of the AI

"Tired of fighting Reapers" is precisely 0% rebellious towards the concept of fighting Reapers.

The rest of the things you mention are again, chafing or rejecting aspects of the leadership in the game, but not expressing full on reluctance with the larger overall purpose. As we said above, the former is likely to happen, the latter is not.

There really is no disagreement here.

I too am planning on playing my Ryder, at least the bro as being reluctant to be there. At least in part. And i will do this whether or not the game acknowledges it or not.

Back in the trilogy both my Shepards made a lot of the same choices. Even though they were very different people like ninety percent of their big changes were the same. Because they had different life experiences and different motivations. So my sis will be very excited to be there but my bro part of him was quite content with the millky way. They may say a lot of the same things. But sometimes they will have different motivations.

But since Andromeda is shaping up to be a great rpg (in the vein of origins, inquisition, ME 1) i am sure it could come up.

this can definitely fit into the story. you'd play as a reluctant member of the AI because you can see that the whole idea of the AI is completely stupid. their purpose is stupid and their existence makes no sense and for that reason, you're a reluctant initiate.

Hey, when something is this bad, people need to be pointing out just how bad it is. No feelings need to be spared here because terrible games with horribad stories do not have feelings.

I know, which is why I engage you with every post you make.

Reluctant != dislike

No offence but this sounds like a really stupid idea to me - why would anyone travel for 200 years to an unknown galaxy if they didn't want to be there.

I'm all for questioning bad decisions that the leadership might make, in fact thats how i intend to play - let me cut off a council again when i get pissed off.

But being reluctant with the AI as whole just sounds ridiculous.
I thought the entire point of the AI was "OMG Reapers are a thing lets find a new safe place just incase" - why would anyone be reluctant to that.

Oh guess i was wrong about the reasons then, my bad.

But my point still stands, why would anyone go through the entire intiative, freeze themselves for 600 years, to find planets that may or may not be there, leaving behind almost everyone they ever knew --------- if they didn't want to?

It just doesn't seem like a plausible scenario. Like I said, there could be methods or reasons behind the AI that we don't agree with, but its most likely that these a big reveals that we wont find out until deep into the game, so playing reluctant for most of it would make no real sense.

I would have stayed in the Milky Way.

Fuck off, fam

Oblivion:

Umm...the Emperors goons locked me up in prison, would not let me follow them out while insane cultists were running around murdering everything that moves and now he wants me to carry a magic trinket to some mysterious temple? Suuuure I will.

Damnit! This thing is impossible to drop or get rid of.

(Travel to monastery. Relieved to be rid of obviously cursed magic item)

Now you want me to pick up the sole surviving heir to the throne, and bring him back here? Yep, I'll get right on that.

(Heads back to capital and enrolls as gladiator...)

Fallout 3
So, my dad abandoned me in a Vault ruled by an obviously unhinged tyrant?

Fuck you, dad! I hope I never see you again!

(Proceeds to become Man-About-Megaton by defusing a bomb, then the famous co-author of a popular Survival Guide)

Skyrim

So I've survived a Dragon attack, and against my better judgement as a fugitive from Imperial authorities, brought you news of the attack. You've rewarded me WITH A PIECE OF CHEAP LEATHER ARMOR, and now you want me to enter a creepy, obviously cursed barrow in search of an antique?

Fuck you people!

(Wanders off to check out the weird building with a longboat roof....fantastic adventure involving fistfights with shopkeepers, haunted ruins, werewolves, vampire dens and more werewolves ensues...)

Fallout 4

(Notices multiple stripped skeletons. Encounters aging, malfunctioning reactor core. Picks up Pipboy from nearly fossilized skeleton. Checks date. Sees 210 years have passed. Opens only door in or out of vault and watches sparks fly off highly corroded engine.)

Fuck! It's been decades since this door was opened. My son is dead!

(Proceeds to go insane and attempt suicide by Raider multiple times, eventually discovering new love with drug-addled Glaswegian gladiator)


Mass Effect 2

Fuck! I'm dead! Shortest game ever!

WTF? I'm not dead? Where the hell am I?

I'm in a CERBERUS facility? Fuck you! I'll never work with terrorists!

(Proceeds to work with terrorists to reach shuttle bay. Watches dominatrix murder fellow terrorist in cold blood, then act really smug about it.)

(Quickly decides to shoot dominatrix & goon, take shuttle back to Alliance space)

"Your boss better have some answers."

(WTF? Did I just say that? Why am I holstering my sidearm?)

(Proceeds to "meet" with terrorist group leader, an obvious villain straight out of an old comic book vid.)

(Talk to Miranda about her supposedly rejected idea of a "control chip"...)

(During shuttle ride, attempts to shoot captors again. Arm will not respond. Internal Sigh. So TIM "rejected" the idea of a control chip, eh? Fuck you people! I'm not an idiot.)



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ME:Andromeda is a Bioware game. We'll get to make _some_ choices. We're get to have _some_ say in the order in which we do things on our checklist. But a large amount of the experience and character development is going to be on rails. That's just the way it is.