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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 16:26:32 GMT
No story is ever about its epilogue. We know it's going to be safe and well and Synthesis is so impossible to answer (so impossible in concept in Mass Effect context) that they simply CAN'T answer it and nobody can unless they wanna outright show us how unlikeable the setting becomes then (in synthesis). Control and Destroy both hint well at what is to come. I think Wreav survived without Eve in my last playthrough and Shepard ominously says "We will safeguard the many from themselves" or something as it pans over Wreav, to show you that if some race think they can dominate, the Reapers will step in again. It's not BioWare's job to tell us what happens after those endings. Perhaps if they had taken a better approach to ME3's plot they could've had a fleshed out conclusion like Halo 3 (just an example) or MGS4 where you actually get a couple of scenes in the aftermath - I always pictured Shepard or his team being at Anderson's public memorial on Earth - and they'd have a few conversations that answer A) What's going to happen to the council species going forward and What will Shepard (if alive) do and what will his crew do? That was the kind of ending I was hoping the most for. So, than there is the possibility to make only two games. One for what is going on in Milky Way with Shepard as Reaper KI and the other hand there is a Milky Way game for destroyed Ending. No, dude you didn't get my point. The endings as they are mean that there will be no further resolution and there shouldn't be. They had their chance before releasing ME3 to make the ending wrap up differently or revise it before making Extended Cut but that ship has sailed and now you just gotta let it go.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 10, 2017 16:28:23 GMT
It actually wasn't bad except for the music.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 10, 2017 16:28:57 GMT
BoomBoomTrailer with ChartMusic (The song is from latest Bond movie Spectre, is not it?) What I Don't like: naked scene with Scott and an Asari instead of Sarah and Asari naked (I dont expect a naked Scene with Scott and Gil or Reyes, I would dont like it) a lot of boom a cutscene that says, this will happen no matter which decisions you have mad because there are no decisions to avoid this scene seems like Human saves the day-plotWhat I do like: Space serious looking Scott nice graphic but this has no meaning, graphic power is not important and no reason to buy a game You play as a human and Mass effect has always been about Humanity's place in the galaxy, now galaxies. What else would you expect?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 16:32:35 GMT
Strictly speaking ME1 was the only plot about human's standing. ME2 and 3 forced that aspect because by the end of ME2 the aliens felt like family and especially after ME3 and now going to another galaxy in cooperation with the other MW species, it shouldn't imply that it's a story about humanity.
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Post by danaduchy on Mar 10, 2017 16:33:16 GMT
I'm surprised I've even recognized the flowers
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 16:34:31 GMT
It does... but is Sara the playable version in this trailer or is that what happens to her if you don't play as her, is my question. Pretty sure the twin you don't play is kidnapped and used because of SAM. I got this vibe too. I'm crossing my fingers it doesn't feel contrived or like a morning cartoon because as a trope it kinda is a morning cartoon plot, the whole "oh no someone I love is being held hostage!"
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 10, 2017 16:35:06 GMT
I wonder how many times during the game we will say "I wish I had some minimal armament on the Tempest". In the trailers alone there are several. In this one in particular it looked like we will take part on a full scale battle. On a ship... with no guns...
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 16:35:24 GMT
Wait, is that Drack in an alternate outfit?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 16:36:10 GMT
I'm surprised I've even recognized the flowers XD Frostbite engine confirmed.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 16:37:36 GMT
I wonder how many times during the game we will say "I wish I had some minimal armament on the Tempest". In the trailers alone there are several. In this one in particular it looked like we will take part on a full scale battle. On a ship... with no guns... That's a decision I really don't understand. I can understand the Nomad from a gameplay/resource perspective, but the Tempest would've needed weapons only on fight cutscenes.
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 10, 2017 16:40:23 GMT
I wonder how many times during the game we will say "I wish I had some minimal armament on the Tempest". In the trailers alone there are several. In this one in particular it looked like we will take part on a full scale battle. On a ship... with no guns... That's a decision I really don't understand. I can understand the Nomad from a gameplay/resource perspective, but the Tempest would've needed weapons only on fight cutscenes. I think they really want to see the whole "we're explorers" angle. Which is ok, but then, we're more powerful and heavily armored than Shepard and re going to kill 1000s of people in the game. Makes one wonder just how well they are going to pull it off.
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Post by vyndral on Mar 10, 2017 16:43:03 GMT
I wonder how many times during the game we will say "I wish I had some minimal armament on the Tempest". In the trailers alone there are several. In this one in particular it looked like we will take part on a full scale battle. On a ship... with no guns... Who needs guns?! We have a Krogan!! Am I doing this right?
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 16:45:13 GMT
That's a decision I really don't understand. I can understand the Nomad from a gameplay/resource perspective, but the Tempest would've needed weapons only on fight cutscenes. I think they really want to see the whole "we're explorers" angle. Which is ok, but then, we're more powerful and heavily armored than Shepard and re going to kill 1000s of people in the game. Makes one wonder just how well they are going to pull it off. I don't think Ryder is more powerful then Shepard. He's in possess of a more advanced technology that allows him/her to be more versatile. If he gets stronger, it'll be during the game. I think the shift from the more exploration based purpose of the initiative to the more bellicous stance we might/should have is explained by the different situation we find in the cluster, but the problem of the weaponry still stands. It can be explained by the Initiative (partial?) ineptitude I guess.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 16:46:12 GMT
I wonder how many times during the game we will say "I wish I had some minimal armament on the Tempest". In the trailers alone there are several. In this one in particular it looked like we will take part on a full scale battle. On a ship... with no guns... Who needs guns?! We have a Krogan!! Am I doing this right? That's an ironic line Ryder can make. I think we'll be able to use a more serious one in that dialogue. Krogans are the most useful organic soldiers though.
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Post by _Wolf Rider_ on Mar 10, 2017 16:47:35 GMT
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 10, 2017 16:50:55 GMT
I think they really want to see the whole "we're explorers" angle. Which is ok, but then, we're more powerful and heavily armored than Shepard and re going to kill 1000s of people in the game. Makes one wonder just how well they are going to pull it off. I don't think Ryder is more powerful then Shepard. He's in possess of a more advanced technology that allows him/her to be more versatile. If he gets stronger, it'll be during the game. I think the shift from the more exploration based purpose of the initiative to the more bellicous stance we might/should have is explained by the different situation we find in the cluster, but the problem of the weaponry still stands. It can be explained by the Initiative (partial?) ineptitude I guess. Shepard has been reconstructed using Reaper tech. There is no lore reason why Ryder would have access to tech more advanced than Shepard does. Indeed, Cerberus has been portraied as the most technologically advanced faction in the trilogy. If anyone should have perks because of technology, it's not Ryder.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 10, 2017 16:53:34 GMT
I don't think Ryder is more powerful then Shepard. He's in possess of a more advanced technology that allows him/her to be more versatile. If he gets stronger, it'll be during the game. I think the shift from the more exploration based purpose of the initiative to the more bellicous stance we might/should have is explained by the different situation we find in the cluster, but the problem of the weaponry still stands. It can be explained by the Initiative (partial?) ineptitude I guess. Shepard has been reconstructed using Reaper tech. There is no lore reason why Ryder would have access to tech more advanced than Shepard does. Indeed, Cerberus has been portraied as the most technologically advanced faction in the trilogy. If anyone should have perks because of technology, it's not Ryder. Well, the profile switch thing is likely connected to SAM, in some way. And Shepard didn't have an AI integrated in his body.
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Post by lynroy on Mar 10, 2017 16:58:41 GMT
It actually wasn't bad except for the music. QFT Hated the music.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 10, 2017 17:03:49 GMT
Damn it looks good.
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Post by armass81 on Mar 10, 2017 17:12:18 GMT
Looked nice, but the music was meh.
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Post by havox on Mar 10, 2017 17:14:57 GMT
There actually exists official 1.5 minute version Let's just agree to watch Bioware trailers on mute, heh.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 10, 2017 17:16:41 GMT
Haha, holy crap that's bad And yet, despite that, the game became a classic. Meh, only the ending of the trailer was REALLY bad... I even based my Warden fighter on Malcolm. Ashes trailer was better, of of course... On MEA: Dunno... I like the energy, and the song - though overused - fits quite good... still, it feels like a typical Hollywood scifie action schlock EA trailer... or something Microsoft would make. I mean, look at the Infinite Warfare trailer. Same feel, less colors and better faces. We've come a long way from the thinking men's scifie ME1 tried to be...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 17:22:25 GMT
So they confirmed Cora/PeeBee as romances but refuse to show others because ''we must find on our own''.. Good one
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Post by Dark King on Mar 10, 2017 17:22:45 GMT
I wasn't sure if I would like this trailer after the teaser, but I thought it was awesome.
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