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Post by blanks on Mar 10, 2017 16:13:04 GMT
Does that giant hump look slightly Krogan in origin to the rest of you? There was a leak that said the Kett were angarans who had undergone some sort of process using Remnant tech and were using the same process on members of the initiative. This seems like it confirms it?
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Post by johnnynocturne on Mar 10, 2017 16:42:53 GMT
So the Kett are Space Darkspawn?
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Post by davkar on Mar 10, 2017 16:53:51 GMT
We had a short discussion with dalinne in the romance thread. I meant the one in the tank. This one looks kett-ish. I have a feeling those pesky cats are into some evil gene sciencing and they'll mutate some MW creatures to their own use. My theory: Archon is not kett, he is the last of the Remnant. And his making his own army engineering other species: Angara (the kett are Angara repurposed), Space bears (Feid) and now with Milky Wayers (like this Krogan) Yeah I remember the (then unknown) angarans entering some kind of pod things in the first GE trailer. Now the krogan. I just hope this is his own thing, not some galaxy misplaced reaper technology.
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Post by dalinne on Mar 10, 2017 16:56:20 GMT
Thanks for the tagging davkar ! This? Processing people and reengineering? It would be great. And horrifying. So it would be great
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Post by spacebeetle on Mar 10, 2017 17:38:45 GMT
So the Kett are Space Darkspawn? If true, I will be deeply disappointed in the lack of creativity it implies.
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Post by armass81 on Mar 10, 2017 18:10:36 GMT
"Leak"? No... more like a rumor going on here.
And yes that beast definately looks like a krogan, with kett bonestructures.
It does fit however with what was revealed with achievements "Destroy exaltation facility or free all angarans". This "exaltation" seems to be taking different species and remaking them to kett(ish). So the kett turn out to be collectors 2.0? Kinda lazy, if true.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Mar 10, 2017 18:59:53 GMT
Something else about the Kett I thought was interesting. At 40 seconds someone (Sara maybe) says "Who are these guys?" and Alec Ryder says "Visitors, just like us".
Maybe the Kett aren't from Andromeda either, or are from outside the Helios Cluster?
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Mar 10, 2017 19:02:19 GMT
Something else about the Kett I thought was interesting. At 40 seconds someone (Sara maybe) says "Who are these guys?" and Alec Ryder says "Visitors, just like us". Maybe the Kett aren't from Andromeda either, or are from outside the Helios Cluster? The twitch stream confirmed the kett aren't native to the Heleus cluster
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 19:16:00 GMT
After that trailer, I'd say the Angara and Krogan are being used in experiments.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Mar 10, 2017 19:16:45 GMT
Something else about the Kett I thought was interesting. At 40 seconds someone (Sara maybe) says "Who are these guys?" and Alec Ryder says "Visitors, just like us". Maybe the Kett aren't from Andromeda either, or are from outside the Helios Cluster? The twitch stream confirmed the kett aren't native to the Heleus cluster What Twitch stream?
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Post by katstica on Mar 10, 2017 21:28:29 GMT
definitely safe to say that the kett and angara look a little too similar. Don't tell me that this concept of the Kett is not based on the angara. They have the same basic anatomy, even the same hand feet things. Plus just look at this guy's face. The nose and forehead are distinctly angaran. It wouldn't be Mass effect without biomechanical baddies trying to take over the galaxy. edit;; though i definitely get the feeling that it won't be as cut and dry evil as with the reapers. For all we know the Archon (Arkon?) fella is just trying to save Andromeda from the black space goo, albeit in his own twisted way. Who knows, maybe after the first game we'll start working together to stop the bigger threat (the scourge) similarly to how the Geth were the main bad guys in the trilogy before the reapers came along and forced us to work together.
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Post by Deana on Mar 11, 2017 0:28:58 GMT
Humans and Asari have the same similarities but they are not related. I don't think it means anything that the Khett and Angara are similar either, but I guess we will see when the games comes out.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 11, 2017 3:10:24 GMT
The theory takes hold considering what we see in the trailer and that we already saw the kett doing it with the Fiends, if not for the Adhi as well (since they have a four legged doglike boned creature). It'd be kind of lazy, expecially if they fail in differentiating it well enough from the Darkspawn and Collectors. If true, if begs the question on the Archon, since his features are different. Is the one of the 'true'/original kett, or another variation? In the latter...please, don't be human.
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Post by alex06 on Mar 11, 2017 6:05:55 GMT
Does that giant hump look slightly Krogan in origin to the rest of you? There was a leak that said the Kett were angarans who had undergone some sort of process using Remnant tech and were using the same process on members of the initiative. This seems like it confirms it? Friggin' called it: bsn.boards.net/post/369057/threadHere's another one: Your twin or father undergo this process as well. Perhaps, after all, we do know what really happened to that lost ark, as well... And that's a confirmation on the "Infested Krogan": imgur.com/a/JthrjAnd here I was, thinking the Remnant stuff sure looked very much like Xel'Naga tech from StarCraft. If our suspicions are correct and the Archon is the last Remnant, controlling mutated Angaran (Kett "Chosen"), I guess we can officially say that the Remnant are pretty much the same alien stereotype / TV Trope as the Xel'Naga from StarCraft : God-like aliens who played with "lesser races" (in their eyes), uplifting said races to become them (basically turning other races into more of themselves). In the case of the Kett, it would seemingly involve some sort of nanotechnology, in a way, "Reaper-ifying" the the original race. Remember those plants that didn't require sunlight or water, inside that Vault? EDIT: Sarah says "He has access", gets scanned by the Archon, while she's aboard The Tempest and Scott is the player character. Well, well, well...Not to mention...This kind of reminds me of Earth 2160, you know... *shudders*
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 11, 2017 9:34:12 GMT
Meh, yea, that seams to be it... pity, I thought they came up with something more interesting this time.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 11, 2017 11:43:40 GMT
Meh, yea, that seams to be it... pity, I thought they came up with something more interesting this time. It can still be interesting if it's well written and different from the previous similar situations...but it's still a bit lazy.
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Post by boyaki on Mar 11, 2017 12:51:45 GMT
I don't really see the "space darkspawn" ressemblance. Darkspawn are more like a corrupting desease with no brain (except a few select) and the Kett seems to all able to make decisions and have a strong military and religious organisation.
And for the part Archon = Last Remnant I don't believe so, it has the same features than other Kett just a different bone structure. We saw 4 kind of Kett creature : -The humanoid Kett -The Krogan Kett -The Fiend Kett -The doggy Kett They all share common features like the bone armor and the darkblue skin and blood. However we can still difference their original race and I don't see difference between classic kett and the archon.
I see the kett as a religious order in a very old fashion "convert yourself or die". That's why in the first trailer the archon say "Surrender" when they are in obvious superiority or in the launch trailer "no more mercy" implying they did not attack on sight on every occasion. The conversion process would be genetic and possibly mentaly. Is is forced indoctrination or does it stop to genetic mutation ? I also believe that Angara and Kett are the same race, which would explain the Angaran resistance. In the first cinematic trailer we could see a bunch of Angaran entering in a bluish remnant like vault, maybe that what turn the Angaran into Kett in the first place and would explain why the Kett are focus on remnant technology.
In the 4k trailer we saw a very unique plant and there was a comment explaining that there is no way such a organism would survive underground implying that the remnants take care of that and that this plant is not endemic to this place and possibly created through genetic manipulation, that could explain the Kett interest. On last thing is habitat 7, which was thought to be a tropical paradise but was quite in fact quite the opposite. I don't think the AI was wrong, I think the planet was a paradise 634 years before we arrive and the same fate wait the rest of Heleus. My question is the role of the Remnant in this (and the Kett). Are they monitoring those planets ? Causing those changes ? Trying to put a stop on them ? It does look like the original "Dark matter" story.
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Post by armass81 on Mar 11, 2017 14:38:33 GMT
I don't really see the "space darkspawn" ressemblance. Darkspawn are more like a corrupting desease with no brain (except a few select) and the Kett seems to all able to make decisions and have a strong military and religious organisation. And for the part Archon = Last Remnant I don't believe so, it has the same features than other Kett just a different bone structure. We saw 4 kind of Kett creature : -The humanoid Kett -The Krogan Kett -The Fiend Kett -The doggy Kett They all share common features like the bone armor and the darkblue skin and blood. However we can still difference their original race and I don't see difference between classic kett and the archon. I see the kett as a religious order in a very old fashion "convert yourself or die". That's why in the first trailer the archon say "Surrender" when they are in obvious superiority or in the launch trailer "no more mercy" implying they did not attack on sight on every occasion. The conversion process would be genetic and possibly mentaly. Is is forced indoctrination or does it stop to genetic mutation ? I also believe that Angara and Kett are the same race, which would explain the Angaran resistance. In the first cinematic trailer we could see a bunch of Angaran entering in a bluish remnant like vault, maybe that what turn the Angaran into Kett in the first place and would explain why the Kett are focus on remnant technology. In the 4k trailer we saw a very unique plant and there was a comment explaining that there is no way such a organism would survive underground implying that the remnants take care of that and that this plant is not endemic to this place and possibly created through genetic manipulation, that could explain the Kett interest. On last thing is habitat 7, which was thought to be a tropical paradise but was quite in fact quite the opposite. I don't think the AI was wrong, I think the planet was a paradise 634 years before we arrive and the same fate wait the rest of Heleus. My question is the role of the Remnant in this (and the Kett). Are they monitoring those planets ? Causing those changes ? Trying to put a stop on them ? It does look like the original "Dark matter" story. Kett might be multiple races converted. I definately see similarities with the angara. However they also said kett come from someplace different than Heleus cluster, so... Archon might actually be true kett, the other are just races converted into their grunts/fighting force. The theory that hes also the "last remnant" is nice too. We have Halo 4 writer, so Didact anyone?
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Post by vyndral on Mar 11, 2017 17:44:38 GMT
Oh my! Are the Kett looking for the way to the Underverse? And is Riddick a hidden 7th squad mate?
I really hope it isnt like that at all. That they are just experimenting no converstion. I got enough of that in the original trilogy. We lost renegade because it was to Shepard. But apperently the same story elements are not to much like the last games.
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Post by Typhons Bioheat on Mar 12, 2017 4:11:19 GMT
What I am getting from this is that Remnant tech is a hybrid of the Blight and Reaper tech. Also, as someone above pointed out - Space Darkspawn.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 12, 2017 5:05:25 GMT
Space Darkspawn Cerberus Reapers Collectors Demons
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 12, 2017 5:49:59 GMT
Meh, yea, that seams to be it... pity, I thought they came up with something more interesting this time. It can still be interesting if it's well written and different from the previous similar situations...but it's still a bit lazy. How is it lazy? Is it lazy because a similar idea existed prior to Andromeda's development? Well Im not sure if you know but every idea ever has been done to death. The ONLY thing that is important is if they execute it well. The plainest of ideas can be excellent when executed in a proper manner. Either way this will be an interesting plot point given that we haven't seen a race like this in prior ME games. The Kett could replenish their ranks by assimilating other species, technically meaning that there wont be many 'pure' Kett in the game. It might even be possible that 'true' Kett take on the appearance of the Archon and most of the other Kett you see are simply lower species that got assimilated. Im interested in finding all this out
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 12, 2017 5:57:01 GMT
It can still be interesting if it's well written and different from the previous similar situations...but it's still a bit lazy. How is it lazy? Is it lazy because a similar idea existed prior to Andromeda's development? Well Im not sure if you know but every idea ever has been done to death. The ONLY thing that is important is if they execute it well. The plainest of ideas can be excellent when executed in a proper manner. Either way this will be an interesting plot point given that we haven't seen a race like this in prior ME games. The Kett could replenish their ranks by assimilating other species, technically meaning that there wont be many 'pure' Kett in the game. It might even be possible that 'true' Kett take on the appearance of the Archon and most of the other Kett you see are simply lower species that got assimilated. Im interested in finding all this out It's lazy because the general idea was used many times recently by Bioware, including the last ME game.
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Post by kingjuly on Mar 12, 2017 6:04:37 GMT
How is it lazy? Is it lazy because a similar idea existed prior to Andromeda's development? Well Im not sure if you know but every idea ever has been done to death. The ONLY thing that is important is if they execute it well. The plainest of ideas can be excellent when executed in a proper manner. Either way this will be an interesting plot point given that we haven't seen a race like this in prior ME games. The Kett could replenish their ranks by assimilating other species, technically meaning that there wont be many 'pure' Kett in the game. It might even be possible that 'true' Kett take on the appearance of the Archon and most of the other Kett you see are simply lower species that got assimilated. Im interested in finding all this out It's lazy because the general idea was used many times recently by Bioware, including the last ME game. The same could be said about the fact that the game is set in space, or that it has mechanics shared with Inquisition, or any number of various things. It isn't lazy at all, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about. You think its lazy because it shares a VERY vague similarity to prior races within Biowares games. Reproducing artificially via mutation of other species is an idea thats existed since the beginning of the sci fi genre, let alone fantasy in general. Lazy would only apply if the idea was a carbon copy of a prior creation. A literal copy paste with minimal effort put into it. From what we understand at this stage, while the Kett share a similar (not the best word since its still very vague) 'reproduction' system as the Darkspawn thats literally the only thing they share. The species looks different, behaves different, has a different culture and history, has a different reason for doing what they're doing, etc Once again, the ONLY thing that matters is if they execute these ideas well. At what point was Last of Us a unique idea? But they executed that brilliantly and people adore that game. The same applies to Horizon, Zelda and Witcher 3...all games people adore with barely any unique ideas.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 12, 2017 6:08:05 GMT
I did say that the execution can still be good or interesting. And yes, there are barely new story plot or ideas they can use. It's still lazy to use the Same idea they used for the enemy of the last game. The comparison with space it's not right. The IP is based on space. It doesn't mean they have to use the Same idea for their enemies, even if it might turn out good (which is what ultimately matters, but with the info we know we can't say).
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