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Post by tomb85 on Mar 13, 2017 12:57:34 GMT
Sigh, I really need to see the checklist to see what is required to make a game a RPG, for I don't remember being able to play dress up with our party members to be one of them before Andromeda. The armor isn't the huge issue as it never was before in me2 or me3. The issue is being stuck with basic milky way weapons when there's an entire loot, modify, customize mechanic in place. I personally will never use a sniper so naturally I would give my black widow or whatever sniper I build to my sniper squad mate. Not possible anymore. Yeah this is the one for me really. Not surprised about armour. But I don't get on with shotguns so there is no point looking at or modding shotguns at all for me. It's a really weird choice they have made.
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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 13, 2017 12:58:18 GMT
Is it confirmed we can't just change just like their preset selected weapon? Like we can change Cora's shotgun but not give her a sniper rifle?
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 13, 2017 13:01:26 GMT
Is it confirmed we can't just change just like their preset selected weapon? Like we can change Cora's shotgun but not give her a sniper rifle? Yes. We can't even give Cora another shotgun. The squad weapons scale with their level.
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Post by tomb85 on Mar 13, 2017 13:02:14 GMT
Is it confirmed we can't just change just like their preset selected weapon? Like we can change Cora's shotgun but not give her a sniper rifle? No changing. Default weapons only for each character.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 13, 2017 13:02:33 GMT
Maybe she doesn't want your damned shotgun.
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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 13, 2017 13:02:52 GMT
Is it confirmed we can't just change just like their preset selected weapon? Like we can change Cora's shotgun but not give her a sniper rifle? Yes. We can't even give Cora another shotgun. The squad weapons scale with their level. Ok then add my name to the rabble list. That is just stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 13:04:44 GMT
Is it confirmed we can't just change just like their preset selected weapon? Like we can change Cora's shotgun but not give her a sniper rifle? Yes. We can't even give Cora another shotgun. The squad weapons scale with their level. So everyone is Varric from Dragon Age II?
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 13, 2017 13:05:31 GMT
Sigh, I really need to see the checklist to see what is required to make a game a RPG, for I don't remember being able to play dress up with our party members to be one of them before Andromeda. The armor isn't the huge issue as it never was before in me2 or me3. The issue is being stuck with basic milky way weapons when there's an entire loot, modify, customize mechanic in place. I personally will never use a sniper so naturally I would give my black widow or whatever sniper I build to my sniper squad mate. Not possible anymore. I think threads got merged, for my post was in response of someone saying RPG elements were being gutted because they wanted to give characters an iconic look. If you are disappointed because you wanted everyone to be using weapons found in Andromeda I can understand being disappointed, but I still wouldn't consider it gutting a RPG feature either.
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Post by ruffian on Mar 13, 2017 13:05:41 GMT
Not being able to change our squadmates weapons is ridiculous. I wouldn't care about not being able to change their armor if it wasn't for the fact that all of them are total fashion terrorists.
This just feels really really lazy.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 13, 2017 13:07:29 GMT
Also as a heads up Jim Sterling gave BOTW a 7 so it's no longer the highest rated game on Metacritic, Zelda fans responded by DDOSing his site, so maybe the fact that it's a Zelda game that people had to pay €400 to play (switch console plus game) helped people overlook some of it's flaws. And it does have flaws, for me it's degradable weapon system is far more annoying than not being able to customise how squadmates look in Mass Effect. So the Zelda fans are even worse than we are? Wow.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 13, 2017 13:08:57 GMT
Who cares about the weapons? Maybe they upgrade their weapons by themselves (like you do a "loyalty" mission and there they find a new toy or whatever).
But I really hoped we would have the option to give everyone proper armor. Like it was in ME3.
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Post by kaind on Mar 13, 2017 13:12:15 GMT
It would be cool if squadmates had their own actually unique weapons, but seeing everyone walking around with avengers is just going to be cringy.
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Post by kaind on Mar 13, 2017 13:13:13 GMT
Who cares about the weapons? Maybe they upgrade their weapons by themselves (like you do a "loyalty" mission and there they find a new toy or whatever). But I really hoped we would have the option to give everyone proper armor. Like it was in ME3. But they did say that there will be alternative appearances, it just don't change stats is what they meant.
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Post by boyaki on Mar 13, 2017 13:14:08 GMT
Well it takes only one person to ddos.
But yes sometimes the gaming community deserve its reputation... Knowing in advance all the comment in a youtube video is not really an enjoyable thing. "Oh look, Cora is the video, i wonder if somehow one of the top comment will be someone accusing SJW to run the game somehow with a single logical argument"
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 13, 2017 13:17:00 GMT
Yes. We can't even give Cora another shotgun. The squad weapons scale with their level. So everyone is Varric from Dragon Age II? Yup.
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 13, 2017 13:18:41 GMT
It would be cool if squadmates had their own actually unique weapons, but seeing everyone walking around with avengers is just going to be cringy. This. I'm perfectly fine with the idea of them having their own personal gun, but the fact that they still use Avengers during cutscenes just kills it. If they had properly coded it so that they use their own guns, then I would be perfectly fine with how things are.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 13, 2017 13:22:48 GMT
Who cares about the weapons? Maybe they upgrade their weapons by themselves (like you do a "loyalty" mission and there they find a new toy or whatever). But I really hoped we would have the option to give everyone proper armor. Like it was in ME3. But they did say that there will be alternative appearances, it just don't change stats is what they meant. Really? Because I heard there isn't even that...or has someone clarified on that?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 13, 2017 13:30:22 GMT
I believe a similar argument can be made for the word ‘iconic’. By now it really makes me both laugh and die a little inside when I see this word used by BioWare employees to cover for the blatant lack of features in Mass Effect: Andromeda. You cannot customize your companions to preserve ‘their iconic look’. You cannot even turn helmets off and on in Multiplayer, to preserve the ‘iconic look’. Peebee will always have her Hamburglar face paint, because it’s ‘a part of her iconic look’. And now we learn that our companions will not EVER (well, save for the cutscenes that belong to ‘iconic’ Avenger rifle and iconic Reverse Carnifex, of course!) change weapons and their damage will just scale with their level. Coupled with the dumb companion AI (that makes them lie and have awkward seizures for better part of the combat) and their main role as a combo setup/discharge machines one might ask why they even bothered with those characters being a part of your team rather than just be there in predefined setups during the course of the missions (it’s kind of the case for Loyalty missions anyway). Seems to me they’re there to display their iconic, immutable looks. But ‘iconic’ is a status that is earned, not proclaimed. BioWare cannot make anything ‘iconic’. It’s up to the audience to decide what is iconic and what is not. Let's say we all agree with this argument, and Bio even agrees. Bio then picks a different word than "iconic" to describe the character looks and keeps the same design approach. "Iconic" is a distraction. Fight over the territory, not the map.
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Post by kaind on Mar 13, 2017 13:32:36 GMT
It would be cool if squadmates had their own actually unique weapons, but seeing everyone walking around with avengers is just going to be cringy. This. I'm perfectly fine with the idea of them having their own personal gun, but the fact that they still use Avengers during cutscenes just kills it. If they had properly coded it so that they use their own guns, then I would be perfectly fine with how things are. I don't understand why they still do that, because there were actually cutscenes back in ME3 that took into account the unique weapon that you had equipped at the time and they triggered the sound of that weapon firing.
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Post by kaind on Mar 13, 2017 13:33:48 GMT
But they did say that there will be alternative appearances, it just don't change stats is what they meant. Really? Because I heard there isn't even that...or has someone clarified on that? I'm pretty sure it was discussed multiple times in different threads that squadmates would have alternative outfits.
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Post by phantomrachie on Mar 13, 2017 13:34:06 GMT
Also as a heads up Jim Sterling gave BOTW a 7 so it's no longer the highest rated game on Metacritic, Zelda fans responded by DDOSing his site, so maybe the fact that it's a Zelda game that people had to pay €400 to play (switch console plus game) helped people overlook some of it's flaws. And it does have flaws, for me it's degradable weapon system is far more annoying than not being able to customise how squadmates look in Mass Effect. So the Zelda fans are even worse than we are? Wow. The comments on his site were ridiculous. He even got death threats. Death threats, for saying that he enjoyed Zelda but it had some stuff in it that frustrated him so that reduced his enjoyment so it's a good game, not a great game.
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Post by Elessar on Mar 13, 2017 13:43:23 GMT
Yes. We can't even give Cora another shotgun. The squad weapons scale with their level. So everyone is Varric from Dragon Age II? Yes. And no annoying "having to craft / buy weapon upgrades to keep him viable" like in DAI. Nice.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 13, 2017 13:53:54 GMT
Really? Because I heard there isn't even that...or has someone clarified on that? I'm pretty sure it was discussed multiple times in different threads that squadmates would have alternative outfits. That was before. They apparently changed their minds and have a single outfit in the vanilla game.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 13, 2017 13:59:29 GMT
So everyone is Varric from Dragon Age II? Yes. And no annoying "having to craft / buy weapon upgrades to keep him viable" like in DAI. Nice. You mean no fun "adjusting their appearance and capabilities to keep them interesting" like in DAI. Bummer
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Post by yeegrek on Mar 13, 2017 14:04:20 GMT
Really? Because I heard there isn't even that...or has someone clarified on that? I'm pretty sure it was discussed multiple times in different threads that squadmates would have alternative outfits. They did in ME2 and 3, IIRC. I could care less about the armor and outfits. I was really excited to upgrade weapons to give to squadmates. Putting a auto-laser claymore into the Krogan's hands, for example Now, I'll be just upgrading AR's and (maybe) snipes. Very disappointing design decision. At least give us the option. If the COD crowd just wants to charge in with stock gear, all power to them. But let the fans who want to go in depth have the ability.
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