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Post by leafspring on Mar 14, 2017 14:32:23 GMT
1) Reload time is a feature of a gun, just like damage, weight, size, accuracy etc. Cancelling simply ignores a feature of a gun, but only for some people. Since the cancelled reload time is still tied to the actual reload time of that particular weapon, no feature is ignored and the effective fire rate remains the same compared to other weapons (given they're also cancelled).
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Post by Beerfish on Mar 14, 2017 14:36:40 GMT
1) Reload time is a feature of a gun, just like damage, weight, size, accuracy etc. Cancelling simply ignores a feature of a gun, but only for some people. Since the cancelled reload time is still tied to the actual reload time of that particular weapon, no feature is ignored and the effective fire rate remains the same compared to other weapons (given they're also cancelled). Pew pew of 300 shot before reload weapon vs BOOM BOOM massive damage claymore that kills the target in seconds is a major difference in my books. You don;t see people running around calling the high lord phaeston.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Mar 14, 2017 14:45:36 GMT
Now we just need the "is soft cover cheating" thread. And RHA cheating thread. And when the game comes out, and LHA thread as well. Our guy is only allowed to hold the weapon strictly straigh-forward vertically and horizontally.
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Post by SwoopIM on Mar 14, 2017 15:00:00 GMT
Are we still debating this? Just reload cancel or just don't.
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Post by stardog89 on Mar 14, 2017 15:33:59 GMT
Where's the Red Ranger? I would've bet he'd show up here. I wanted some drama to listen to on my commute to work but I guess it's back to NPR
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 14, 2017 19:11:37 GMT
I'm guessing it was an unintended game feature. It's possible for an exploit to be an unintended game feature, the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. Should it be removed from the game? No, because while it does present an advantage to the experienced player, it doesn't offer that huge of a benefit. I would say that it provides a modest and noticeable advantage, but certainly nothing that's overpowered in any way (like missile glitching - now that was definitely overpowered). This.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 14, 2017 19:15:53 GMT
Where's the Red Ranger? I would've bet he'd show up here. I wanted some drama to listen to on my commute to work but I guess it's back to NPR I'm already popular! Ironic that many of the fire starters are agreeing with people that it's an exploit all of a sudden, before I "showed up" (because I don't sit around waiting for threads to pop up about it). I've always loved the BSN. Everybody is so hotheaded.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 14, 2017 22:53:20 GMT
I'm guessing it was an unintended game feature. It's possible for an exploit to be an unintended game feature, the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. Should it be removed from the game? No, because while it does present an advantage to the experienced player, it doesn't offer that huge of a benefit. I would say that it provides a modest and noticeable advantage, but certainly nothing that's overpowered in any way (like missile glitching - now that was definitely overpowered). This. It can't be unintended when they specifically mentioned in the lead up on the old BSN that reload cancelling with the shotty was a good tactic for CQC Vanguard players and was even in ME2. They knew it was there and they expected high level players to take advantage of it.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 14, 2017 23:02:10 GMT
it's nice not being able to see his posts and yet knowing that i've read all of the intelligent posts in this thread
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Post by stardog89 on Mar 14, 2017 23:02:17 GMT
Where's the Red Ranger? I would've bet he'd show up here. I wanted some drama to listen to on my commute to work but I guess it's back to NPR I'm already popular! Ironic that many of the fire starters are agreeing with people that it's an exploit all of a sudden, before I "showed up" (because I don't sit around waiting for threads to pop up about it). I've always loved the BSN. Everybody is so hotheaded. Just having fun. No harm no foul.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 14, 2017 23:02:19 GMT
It can't be unintended when they specifically mentioned in the lead up on the old BSN that reload cancelling with the shotty was a good tactic for CQC Vanguard players and was even in ME2. They knew it was there and they expected high level players to take advantage of it. Siiiiiiigh
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 14, 2017 23:08:29 GMT
Pew pew of 300 shot before reload weapon vs BOOM BOOM massive damage claymore that kills the target in seconds is a major difference in my books. You don;t see people running around calling the high lord phaeston. There are better weapons to put on the GI. There are better weapons to put on the Fury as well, like the Acolyte or the Venom. The Claymore is just the most fun to use.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Mar 15, 2017 3:47:02 GMT
Exploiting is manipulation of the game in a way that the developers didn't intend. Since the developers said extensively in ME2 that it was an intended mechanic and carried it over to ME3, it can't be an exploit. That should end the argument but I know that everyone's moms told them they were special snowflakes so carry on with the douchebaggery.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Mar 15, 2017 4:05:34 GMT
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