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Post by griffith82 on Apr 11, 2017 0:29:41 GMT
I found Synthesis to be one of the most evil options I have ever encountered in any fiction. Synthesis forcibly alters the genetic composition of every lifeform, and every lifeform to be born, in the galaxy, it would influence every galactic culture that does not know of the events (suddenly everywhere is hit by a green wave and everyone glows) and even those that do, how many cultures or civilisations will be destroyed in the aftermath of such an event? Let alone when you account for the fact that machines that have killed thousands of trillions of people are allowed to survive, and that the husks appear to regain their sentience... we appear to restore the person that was forcibling corrupted, tortured, impaled and replaced with machinery into a body of horrors. It is one of the most depraved endings I have ever come across, and it is written as a good thing. That is what is most scary, I think. Presenting it as a good thing is what makes Synthesis an interesting option. If evil options don't actually work, then choosing them is just stupid. I'm not sure I'd say any of them are evil/good. ME always operated in a gray area. I actually liked Synthesis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 2:40:24 GMT
When you meet the starchild give that whole conversation serious thought. Not the words it is saying nearly as much as the fact that you are having a conversation with it. It's look is unique to you and only you. So how is it that this image that only you know is in front of you and you are talking with it, especially given what you know about that image. That seemed to get overlooked a lot in conversations about the starbrat. I was always bothered by the fact that I was having a conversation with something that was essentially in my mind and nobody else could possibly know. Thinking about that, pondering it, was really sort of an interesting thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 5:04:56 GMT
I don't find Destroy to be all that depressing. Me neither. What's depressing about destroying the Reapers? Sounds like a victory to me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 16, 2017 17:06:27 GMT
I don't find Destroy to be all that depressing. Me neither. What's depressing about destroying the Reapers? Sounds like a victory to me. That's been my Day One goal, I think. At least, I started preparing for it in ME1.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 16, 2017 17:28:44 GMT
I don't find Destroy to be all that depressing. Me neither. What's depressing about destroying the Reapers? Sounds like a victory to me. Lost potential, massive collateral damage, death and starvation of millions while Relays are being rebuild, extremely slow recover of worlds, depleted military force giving pirates and other such groups far more room to move and act on. Making money by price gouging for necessary items and stealing them from groups that need it to sell it to another group that has more money. With the added bonus of never allowing the galaxy to come to terms with synthetic life and in fact the Reapers would further enforce the negative stereotypes of it on the general population to the point the conflict between S and O life would inevitably happen again. As organics not wanting another Reaper would stronghold any synthetic life in a way that were it an organic life we would call human right violations. And in return synthetic life not wanting to be restrained by organic life would rise up and more conflict, bloodshed and continuing the cycle of hatred and death. Not the most optimistic outlook. Short term gain yes but long term loss.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 17, 2017 20:44:14 GMT
Me neither. What's depressing about destroying the Reapers? Shepard shooting the tube while walking towards it instead of shooting it from a distance It is
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 23:18:53 GMT
Me neither. What's depressing about destroying the Reapers? Sounds like a victory to me. That's been my Day One goal, I think. At least, I started preparing for it in ME1. I had no intention of controlling the Reapers (can't be done. TIM was proof of that) or implanting everyone with Reaper tech (eg. Saren, Paul Grayson, Kai Leng), so destroying the Reapers is the only sound option for me.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 18, 2017 1:02:35 GMT
That's been my Day One goal, I think. At least, I started preparing for it in ME1. I had no intention of controlling the Reapers (can't be done. TIM was proof of that) or implanting everyone with Reaper tech (eg. Saren, Paul Grayson, Kai Leng), so destroying the Reapers is the only sound option for me. You can't compare the control ending to TIM's attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 14:20:13 GMT
Sure I can. It's common knowledge you cannot control the Reapers. It's also common knowledge you cannot take organic DNA and merge it with Reaper tech (eg. synthesis).
It's giving the Reapers exactly what they want.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 18, 2017 15:07:06 GMT
Sure I can. It's common knowledge you cannot control the Reapers. It's also common knowledge you cannot take organic DNA and merge it with Reaper tech (eg. synthesis).
It's giving the Reapers exactly what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 1:36:53 GMT
Playing the game, following the story, and paying attention to the details.
Perhaps I'm viewing the story through a different lens than you are. There's two sides to every coin.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 19, 2017 2:05:04 GMT
Playing the game, following the story, and paying attention to the details. Yet Reapers are created by merging organic body and technology into a new form of life. The very existence of the Reapers disproves your theory. As does the existence of the Reaper troops like Husks, Cannibals and Brutes to name a few. Course those are more basic form of it much in the same way a club is a much more basic form of a weapon then a rail gun. As well as TIM attempted to forcibly control the Reapers. Something that can not happen because indoctrination aside they are far to technologically advanced to do so. In time it would be possible but given the time frame of their attack there simply wouldn't be enough time to find a way to do so. Control ending is being willingly uploaded to the command center of the Reapers. Freeing the body and mind or organic limitations to allow control. Or in a more simpler way TIM was the equivalent of trying to over throw an existing government though pure military force. Control ending is getting elected leader of said government using existing power system to gain power.
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