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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 19:28:50 GMT
What's the big deal supposed to be exactly?
Why create this vacuous title when there are already plenty of experienced scouts and advanced scanning equipment?
Why send a small team on frigate to do what a large army on an entire fleet can do far more effectively?
Also, why does the Pathfinder have comparable power to the captain of the ship? They're just scouts ffs!
Am I wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:43:01 GMT
Well - I think they have a bit more responsibility than your typical scout. Like making first contact with other species, choosing who/when to bring others out of cryo, deciding where to put settlements, acquiring resources to complete building the Nexus, etc.
Whether the youngster Ryder should have that much authority is a different issue.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 15, 2017 19:47:18 GMT
Well - I think they have a bit more responsibility than your typical scout. Like making first contact with other species, choosing who/when to bring others out of cryo, deciding where to put settlements, acquiring resources to complete building the Nexus, etc. Whether the youngster Ryder should have that much authority is a different issue. Shepard would have done a better job
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 15, 2017 19:59:51 GMT
Well - I think they have a bit more responsibility than your typical scout. Like making first contact with other species, choosing who/when to bring others out of cryo, deciding where to put settlements, acquiring resources to complete building the Nexus, etc. Whether the youngster Ryder should have that much authority is a different issue. Shepard would have done a better job Without knowing what Ryder can actually accomplish, it's not really something we can say.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 15, 2017 20:00:24 GMT
I like to think of it as at least Recon.
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Post by dreth on Mar 15, 2017 20:17:59 GMT
I like to think of them as "Recon Combat Ambassadors"
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Post by LilTIM on Mar 15, 2017 20:24:41 GMT
Some allowances are made for the game, shepard and ryder hold responsibility in many areas. In reality it would be different persons doing the scouting, combat, ship captaining, recruitment officer, etc.
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Post by guanxi on Mar 15, 2017 20:25:00 GMT
I like to think of it as a secret codename for Spectre.
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Post by boyaki on Mar 15, 2017 20:25:43 GMT
they are more problem solver than scout. -They represent the nexus -They represent their respective race -They do recon -They have to clear threat
So they are more like scientist/diplomat/scout/soldier.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 20:28:30 GMT
Well - I think they have a bit more responsibility than your typical scout. Like making first contact with other species, choosing who/when to bring others out of cryo, deciding where to put settlements, acquiring resources to complete building the Nexus, etc. Whether the youngster Ryder should have that much authority is a different issue. I know that they have more power than a typical scout i just don't see why? The Pathfinder should be an admiral at the head of a fleet of ships. The Pathfinder Fleet. This fleet scouts system after system looking for a new home for the Milky Way races. There should be several of these fleets. This way it makes sense for them to have so much power. He or she also wouldn't be entering the field unless the scouts and recon teams have deemed it safe. Our character should be one of these scouts. The head of the scouting teams with their own elite squad maybe. Someone who wields Pathfinder power by proxy only.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 20:34:57 GMT
Some allowances are made for the game, shepard and ryder hold responsibility in many areas. In reality it would be different persons doing the scouting, combat, ship captaining, recruitment officer, etc. I just always saw it as Shepherd being on special assignment from his superiors. He didn't hold some bullshit title that gave him incredible power for no sensible reason.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 15, 2017 20:55:48 GMT
What's the big deal supposed to be exactly? Why create this vacuous title when there are already plenty of experienced scouts and advanced scanning equipment? Why send a small team on frigate to do what a large army on an entire fleet can do far more effectively? Also, why does the Pathfinder have comparable power to the captain of the ship? They're just scouts ffs! Am I wrong? everything you said. Triple it for Shepard.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Mar 15, 2017 21:01:41 GMT
they are more problem solver than scout. -They represent the nexus -They represent their respective race -They do recon -They have to clear threat So they are more like scientist/diplomat/scout/soldier. This... a title exists so responsibilities can be assigned to it. That's really the idea behind titles in general. From what we've seen, scouting is only one such responsibility.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 21:17:01 GMT
they are more problem solver than scout. -They represent the nexus -They represent their respective race -They do recon -They have to clear threat So they are more like scientist/diplomat/scout/soldier. This... a title exists so responsibilities can be assigned to it. That's really the idea behind titles in general. From what we've seen, scouting is only one such responsibility. They can be easily wiped out and don't have any real power to present to potential enemies. A dozen people on a frigate? That's a joke. They land somewhere, piss off the wrong people, and they're done. With a fleet at their backs that couldn't happen. I mean they could be killed but the fleet can send more men down to replace them, negate the threat and continue the mission.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 15, 2017 21:17:40 GMT
Shepard would have done a better job Without knowing what Ryder can actually accomplish, it's not really something we can say. sure......not
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 21:26:32 GMT
What's the big deal supposed to be exactly? Why create this vacuous title when there are already plenty of experienced scouts and advanced scanning equipment? Why send a small team on frigate to do what a large army on an entire fleet can do far more effectively? Also, why does the Pathfinder have comparable power to the captain of the ship? They're just scouts ffs! Am I wrong? everything you said. Triple it for Shepard. Ugh true
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 21:39:30 GMT
What's the big deal supposed to be exactly? Why create this vacuous title when there are already plenty of experienced scouts and advanced scanning equipment? Why send a small team on frigate to do what a large army on an entire fleet can do far more effectively? Also, why does the Pathfinder have comparable power to the captain of the ship? They're just scouts ffs! Am I wrong? everything you said. Triple it for Shepard. Shepard had earned at least some authority prior to the start of the first game. S/he was a mid-level Alliance officer, and currently the XO of a military warship. Shepard had superiors assigning some missions, and the entire Alliance fleet (or Cerberus) as backup/sponsor. Becoming a Spectre also gave Shepard access to additional intel, resources, and authority. Relative to that, Ryder is a completely untested noob.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 21:40:35 GMT
Oh come on man! You aren't even going to try to explain your position?
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 15, 2017 21:42:37 GMT
everything you said. Triple it for Shepard. Shepard had earned at least some authority prior to the start of the first game. S/he was a mid-level Alliance officer, and currently the XO of a military warship. Shepard had superiors assigning some missions, and the entire Alliance fleet (or Cerberus) as backup/sponsor. Becoming a Spectre also gave Shepard access to additional intel, resources, and authority. Relative to that, Ryder is a completely untested noob. But his daddy was the Pathfinder lol! Space nepotism smh
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 15, 2017 21:49:10 GMT
What's the big deal supposed to be exactly? Why create this vacuous title when there are already plenty of experienced scouts and advanced scanning equipment? Why send a small team on frigate to do what a large army on an entire fleet can do far more effectively? Also, why does the Pathfinder have comparable power to the captain of the ship? They're just scouts ffs! Am I wrong? everything you said. Triple it for Shepard. The Suicide Mission disagrees with your post.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 15, 2017 21:51:00 GMT
Well - I think they have a bit more responsibility than your typical scout. Like making first contact with other species, choosing who/when to bring others out of cryo, deciding where to put settlements, acquiring resources to complete building the Nexus, etc. Whether the youngster Ryder should have that much authority is a different issue. Shepard would have done a better job Maybe, maybe not. Good thing you'll never know.
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Post by Jurus on Mar 15, 2017 21:52:35 GMT
I just wish they would have gone with something different. "Pathfinder" just sounds silly.
If it's your responsibility to essentially lead this colonising project, a title like "Overseer", "Director", "Superior",.... would fit better and sound cooler, more dignified and most of all, important.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 15, 2017 21:53:37 GMT
first off, this thread and OP are cancer and should be thrown out the airlock. Second, Ryder is more than capable.
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