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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 16, 2017 20:15:51 GMT
With Mass Effect Andromeda releasing, the devs focus will turn to DLC and quality-of-life patches and fixes. It can be hard for BioWare to see what the 'fans' are interested in amongst the cacophony of different views. So this is a way of distilling a valid opinion. This is a multiplayer version of the the single-player thread: bsn.boards.net/thread/4892Ported here by request, using as inspiration, the ' Heal/Hate' game popularised on BSN by lightdrago3 Rules:- You copy the most recent 'list' into your own post, adjusting it as follows:
- You can add one new Patch suggestion (in 3 or 4 words).
- You can deduct 2 marks (-2) from any suggestion already listed.
- You can add, or deduct, (or one of each) 1 mark to two suggestions: (+1, +1 / +1, -1 / or -1, -1)
- Or, you can add 3 marks (+3) to one suggestion.
- You bold your changes.
- All new suggestions start with 10 points.
- If a suggestion falls to zero (0) it's removed from the list.
- A removed suggestion can be re-listed a second time, after that it's never coming back.
- There is no end-point as such but it will become clear over time which are the most favored suggestions.
- You can only post once per hour, that goes for votes as well as non-voting comments (to keep it focused).
- You can tag me (SofaJockey ) if things have added up wrong for a 'tidy-up' with that post not counting.
Other considerations:
- This is not for single-player, please keep that out of this thread.
- Be practical, suggest stuff BioWare can reasonably do in a Patch or DLC, so not 'add 1st person mode' or 'introduce PVP'.
- Be pleasant about it, the thread is intended to be read and to be helpful, snark will be mod-moved to another suitable thread.
Example:
Poster 1:
Move teammate icons to top bar unless player is downed - 10
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Make ammo boxes more easily located. (Larger/brighter) - 10
Make countdown timer larger during objective waves - 10
Poster 2 doesn't like the Countdown Timer suggestion so down-votes it by 2 points:
Move teammate icons to top bar unless player is downed - 10
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Make ammo boxes more easily located. (Larger/brighter) - 10
Make countdown timer larger during objective waves - 8
Poster 3 is happy with Rage as it is and wants a larger Countdown, -1 and +1 for those.
Move teammate icons to top bar unless player is downed - 10
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 9
Make ammo boxes more easily located. (Larger/brighter) - 10
Make countdown timer larger during objective waves - 9
Poster 4 adds a new one: 'Change all default character colors to neon pink and green' to the end of the list (giving it 10 points)
Move teammate icons to top bar unless player is downed - 10
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 9
Make ammo boxes more easily located. (Larger/brighter) - 10
Make countdown timer larger during objective waves - 9
Change all default character colors to neon pink and green - 10 *new*
Finally, Poster 5 is really interested in the ammo boxes so boosts it by 3 marks:
Move teammate icons to top bar unless player is downed - 10
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 9
Make ammo boxes more easily located. (Larger/brighter) - 12
Make countdown timer larger during objective waves - 9
Change all default character colors to neon pink and green - 10
End of example. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 16, 2017 22:15:14 GMT
[Tagging dcal31 and DragonRacer for awareness, thanks for your input]
So I'll start, with the suggestion': Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10 *new* |
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 16, 2017 22:21:20 GMT
Increase camera distance from character. I witnessed a lot of steams where players wouldn't notice some beast getting under them from behind and I've seen a couple of feedback just about that. FoV is probably not enough.
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10 *new*
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 10:54:25 GMT
fix the lag
fix the ui [Mod-note: Can't add as there is no specific indication of what needs fixing]
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Fix the lag - 10 *new*
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Post by leafspring on Mar 17, 2017 11:01:19 GMT
Minor thing: In your example, the numbers for the suggestions by "Poster 1" lack spaces. I was quite confused why any suggestion would start at -10 and a downnvote would increase that number.
edit: And why would Poster 3 remove a point from the Rage change suggestion if they're not happy with how Rage currently is?
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 17, 2017 11:03:52 GMT
Its taken 5 years and 3 games to achieve nothing in that department so lets not pretend its going to get better now. |
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Post by leafspring on Mar 17, 2017 11:07:02 GMT
Increase the FOV/character distance on console - 10
Make double tapping the direction keys (W, A, S, D) evade the character in that direction* - 10
* You can ignore this if it already works that way but I forgot to check yesterday and assume it doesn't (cause at the moment rarely anything in MEAMP does)
edit: Also I dropped the UI and lag suggestions cause they're way too general and don't get us anywhere.
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 17, 2017 12:55:21 GMT
I disagree: they can fix the UI and they had some patches for ME3 MP to reduce lag issues. A polished shit is still a shit. |
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Post by derrame on Mar 17, 2017 13:48:17 GMT
Fix the lag - 13
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) to evade in that direction - 10
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Post by bigbad on Mar 17, 2017 13:57:49 GMT
Fix the lag - 13
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) to evade in that direction - 10
Add joyous battlerage growls to Krogan headbutt - 10 *new*
(so we can do this again)
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 17:46:11 GMT
edit: Also I dropped the UI and lag suggestions cause they're way too general and don't get us anywhere. But those are the two most important things, regardless of how generic they may seem. That genericness only makes these issues even more ridiculous. AAA GotY |
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Post by Sinistrality on Mar 17, 2017 17:54:52 GMT
Fix the lag - 13 *new*
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) dodge - 11
Add joyous battlerage growls to Krogan headbutt - 11
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
I have to question why it starts at 10 and goes up by 3 per upvote. Seems like a system of starting at 0 and going up and down 1 is fine.
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Post by leafspring on Mar 17, 2017 18:08:44 GMT
edit: Also I dropped the UI and lag suggestions cause they're way too general and don't get us anywhere. But those are the two most important things, regardless of how generic they may seem. That genericness only makes these issues even more ridiculous. AAA GotY I'm not saying they aren't (the most) important things. It's just that a) Bioware is fully aware that the lag needs fixing and  telling them to "fix the UI" is too vague to actually prompt change. It's like saying "make your game better" - well, thanks, now we know exactly what you're having an issue with... But seeing how the thread goes, me removing those two things doesn't really make a difference because apparently 90% of the users on this forum are unable to even follow the most simple instructions anyway. I have to question why it starts at 10 and goes up by 3 per upvote. Seems like a system of starting at 0 and going up and down 1 is fine. Because you're supposed to either cast a -2 or +3 on a single item or a -1 and +1 on two items per vote. Those things are mutually exclusive which everybody happily ignores. Hence it doesn't seem to make any sense. |
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 18:27:20 GMT
But those are the two most important things, regardless of how generic they may seem. That genericness only makes these issues even more ridiculous. AAA GotY I'm not saying they aren't (the most) important things. It's just that a) Bioware is fully aware that the lag needs fixing and telling them to "fix the UI" is too vague to actually prompt change. It's like saying "make your game better" - well, thanks, now we know exactly what you're having an issue with... But seeing how the thread goes, me removing those two things doesn't really make a difference because apparently 90% of the users on this forum are unable to even follow the most simple instructions anyway. I'm not going to take a screenshot of every menu and submenu and subsubmenu and subsubsubmenu, if that's what you want me to do blanket statement suffices here |
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Post by leafspring on Mar 17, 2017 19:02:24 GMT
Fix the lag - 13
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) dodge - 11
Add joyous battlerage growls to Krogan headbutt - 11
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Show the objective and progress in spectator mode - 10 *new*
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Post by dcal31 on Mar 18, 2017 2:49:02 GMT
Fix the lag - 13
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) dodge - 11
Add joyous battlerage growls to Krogan headbutt - 11
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Show the objective and progress in spectator mode - 10
Differentiate objective icons from teammate icons - 10 *new*
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 18, 2017 13:27:47 GMT
Recounted from the top as things went a bit wrong.
'Fix the UI' remains off the list as impossibly vague.
Console FOV also off as performance hit on consoles doesn't allow it (dev confirmed)
For my go:
Add joyous battlerage growls to Krogan headbutt - 14
Fix the lag - 13
Double-tap (W, A, S, D) dodge - 11
Reduce visual distortion caused by rage - 10
Increase FOV slightly - 10
Show the objective and progress in spectator mode - 10
Differentiate objective icons from teammate icons - 10 *new*
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telling them to "fix the UI" is too vague to actually prompt change. It's like saying "make your game better" - well, thanks, now we know exactly what you're having an issue with...