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Post by Sanunes on Mar 18, 2017 6:01:56 GMT
Review sites are about as non-biased as CNN If you want a good review...Angry Joe is your man. He liked Inquisition though, so shouldn't he be tarred and feathered?
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 18, 2017 15:16:38 GMT
"Anyway, again like ME3, I don't think we will have a accurate review of this game until "real people" have finished a play through and begin posting their opinions" Who would be those real people, you? Not the critics then? Game critics rarely finish a big RPG or open world game before writing a first review. They just do not have the time. They are all in a rush to hit deadlines that fall a couple days after they receive their copy of the game. If they've spent 7-12 hours with a game, they've spent a LOT of time with it. But fans of this particular genre know that usually just scratches the surface. So for this sort of game, genuinely accurate reviews that encompass the experience of the entire game are not easy to find. And critics, in any medium, just don't experience stuff the way ordinary fans do. I'm what publisher's marketing departments consider a hardcore gamer. I buy over 20 games a year (easily) and spend significant amounts of time on roughly a half-dozen "new" titles, and a similar amount of time on "old" titles. And I've been doing this a long time. I can bring a large frame of reference to bear when judging a game. But for me this is all just for fun. Reviewers are clobbered with covering well over a half dozen of these things a month, a lot of them appallingly bad. And they have to crank out some coherent pages of prose describing each of them. On a deadline. For low pay. It MUST drain a lot of the fun out of it. IF they get to spend 8 or so hours in a game that is actually FUN, its flaws are probably pretty forgiveable as long as they remember to mention them. They also tend see things I might consider FUN about 10 times as often, and think of it as cliched cookie-cutter same-old same-old. Plus, they review games. Life has got to be an uphill struggle. Do you think any of them has a mom in the retirement community bragging to her neighbor that "My son reviews video games for a living! We are SO proud." That's got to affect their attitude sometimes. You're one of those people.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 18, 2017 15:25:08 GMT
You know what cut's into my reviewing time mostly?
My day job, teaching at several colleges. And I have never been given a hard deadline outside of stuff my site wants before a review embargo, which is rare due to us being small time.
Andromeda, for example, I got to get ready for ASAP though because it's a big release. Were still behind as HZD and Breath of the Wild haven't been posted yet. Mostly because we have a policy in place to finish the game before writing a review.
So yeah...youll get it eventually.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 18, 2017 15:44:02 GMT
First of all don't listen to Gameinformer. They're personal friends with BioWare and many AAA profilic devs and they undermine their own criticism for BioWare games so they can get the first scoop the next time BioWare releases. They're shills, there is no debating that. They actually have some staff questioning the things they've seen in Andromeda but of course they put Joe Juba on the review, a guy who first off "liked Inquisition" and wanted it to be GOTY, a guy who "didn't mind the endings to ME3" and wanted ME3 to be GOTY etc. He's going to give Andromeda at least a 9. Same goes for IGN where BioWare has got their hands in Destin Legaerie's pockets and IGN has been working with BioWare to market their game. Similarly, Gamespot is closely chatting them up but at least some of their hosts have been very skeptical. Giant Bomb is one of the few sites that actually gave ME3 lower than a 9 and can be quoted for critiquing some of the same bulletpoints I had myself like the fact that the plot was too convenient, the ending wasn't overall satisfying and I think their closing statement read something like
that was always 100% how I felt and I couldn't believe the leniency from the fans and other reviewers who just gobbled up ME3 as if it was a masterpiece aside from the ending. It was a totally underwhelming finale even with its good parts that were only good but not fantastic or amazing. Similarly, Giantbomb's staff consiting of Jeff Gertsmann (the guy who Gamespot fired for appropriately shitting on Kane & Lynch Dog Days), Brad and a former Obsidian dev, are currenlty pretty underwhelmed but cautiously hopeful about Andromeda. You can check out their stream of the first hours where you can sense how their disappointment sets in.
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Post by midasear on Mar 18, 2017 15:50:11 GMT
Game critics rarely finish a big RPG or open world game before writing a first review. They just do not have the time. They are all in a rush to hit deadlines that fall a couple days after they receive their copy of the game. If they've spent 7-12 hours with a game, they've spent a LOT of time with it. But fans of this particular genre know that usually just scratches the surface. So for this sort of game, genuinely accurate reviews that encompass the experience of the entire game are not easy to find. And critics, in any medium, just don't experience stuff the way ordinary fans do. I'm what publisher's marketing departments consider a hardcore gamer. I buy over 20 games a year (easily) and spend significant amounts of time on roughly a half-dozen "new" titles, and a similar amount of time on "old" titles. And I've been doing this a long time. I can bring a large frame of reference to bear when judging a game. But for me this is all just for fun. Reviewers are clobbered with covering well over a half dozen of these things a month, a lot of them appallingly bad. And they have to crank out some coherent pages of prose describing each of them. On a deadline. For low pay. It MUST drain a lot of the fun out of it. IF they get to spend 8 or so hours in a game that is actually FUN, its flaws are probably pretty forgiveable as long as they remember to mention them. They also tend see things I might consider FUN about 10 times as often, and think of it as cliched cookie-cutter same-old same-old. Plus, they review games. Life has got to be an uphill struggle. Do you think any of them has a mom in the retirement community bragging to her neighbor that "My son reviews video games for a living! We are SO proud." That's got to affect their attitude sometimes. You're one of those people. If by "those people" you mean someone who believes there is always going to be a disconnect between the views of serious professional critics and those of ordinary consumers of culture, then I plead guilty. But in my defense, I have to point out that I'm actually very sympathetic to the issues reviewers face. If by "those people" you mean someone who thinks reviewers are morons, or in the pay of big publishers, or should just be completely ignored because criticism is stupid, well then, no. You're wrong. But I will admit that this remains my favorite explanation of a critic's role:
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Post by taritu on Mar 18, 2017 15:52:32 GMT
I've worked media, but not game media or game reviews. The club mentality/friends mentality that Valerian mentions is a big factor. In my time I only had the publisher once tell me not to write on something (political sensitive), but good PR people become your friends, they really do. (If the PR person does not make you really like them, they are not good at their job. As with most jobs, most aren't good, but the few that are are really good.)
So you tend to give them more rope. They are "your people", you feel like part of the club.
It's very insidious, and it's hard to fight against. Add that group think, and you can think "well Mass Effect 3 is mostly really good, just a few minor things...)
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Post by fulcrum290 on Mar 18, 2017 15:58:25 GMT
ME3 is a classic, MP saved it, I'm still playing and haven't touch SP since 2013.
Won't touch SP in Andromeda either, now waiting for 67% price drop in June because of pisspoor sells like Titanfall 2, grab it to play with some friend and carry scrubs to victory.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 18, 2017 16:02:00 GMT
You're one of those people. If by "those people" you mean someone who believes there is always going to be a disconnect between the views of serious professional critics and those of ordinary consumers of culture, then I plead guilty. But in my defense, I have to point out that I'm actually very sympathetic to the issues reviewers face. If by "those people" you mean someone who thinks reviewers are morons, or in the pay of big publishers, or should just be completely ignored because criticism is stupid, well then, no. You're wrong. But I will admit that this remains my favorite explanation of a critic's role: Thing is, of course there is a disconnect. That is what separates good critique from a general feeling. The problem is the subjectivity of the critique is the emphasis based on feelings; most reviewers have trouble conveying feelings because there is little rigor in their writing, it's blanket terms used and a checklist to fill out instead of actually thinking about the design as a whole. I did a review for The Technomancer last year, and the entire review was posited behind a question of what makes a game feel average. The rest of the review was discussing why it felt average and what actually stood out in the title. It's difficult to convey sometimes, but good reviews can push into the subtlety of a game and give a reason why it would work.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 18, 2017 16:49:29 GMT
I was thinking back on the situation shortly after ME3 came out. The various review sites has given the game glowing reviews, 98%, "a glowing achievement" "totally awesome!" yada yada yada.... Then the real people started to post what the game was really like. The ending has overshadowed most of the other problems the game had but there were a lot. Remember all the graphic glitches? How about when you hugged someone and you clipped into their sprite and saw that they were hollow inside? Anyway I could talk about the ME3 problems for hours the point is people started to really get down on the review sites and personalities. "They give the reviews they get paid to give" "All the reviews are rigged" again yada yada yada... Based on the comments made by former reviewers that left the field during that time, it's pretty clear that they do in fact give reviews based on the revenue spent by the game company. If it's explicit or implicit I don't know and don't care. What does matter is a lot of sites began shedding viewers at a significant rate. So now in an attempt to convince people that they are non-biased they are looking for every little excuse to take a shot at MEA in an attempt to regain some of their lost credibility. I mean, I expect forumites to blow every little thing out of proportion - that's what forumites do! But I would expect better from people whom are supposedly professionals doing a job. Anyway, again like ME3, I don't think we will have a accurate review of this game until "real people" have finished a play through and begin posting their opinions. A few things that people like you forget it takes about 40 hours to complete ME3 and that is if you skip all side quests. Professional reviewers have to review other games, so yeah maybe they skip things that so called "regular people" (and most of those problems you mentioned I HAVE never seen and I've played ME3 close 25 times) don't notice either. The forums will blow up any little thing into an all flame war it makes me wonder if people like you are even fans of Mass Effect and Dragon Age or just trolls trying to get a rise out of people. Also most if not all of the same people that liked ME3 are probably the same people that liked the all-new God's gifts to video games Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild too.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 18, 2017 19:33:08 GMT
ME3 is a classic, MP saved it, I'm still playing and haven't touch SP since 2013. Won't touch SP in Andromeda either, now waiting for 67% price drop in June because of pisspoor sells like Titanfall 2, grab it to play with some friend and carry scrubs to victory. I guess I just don't get people that play Mass Effect just for the multiplayer
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 18, 2017 19:52:05 GMT
Try reading what I actually wrote. If the difference between conspiracy and herd mentality is too hard for you understand get someone to explain it to you. "Anyway, again like ME3, I don't think we will have a accurate review of this game until "real people" have finished a play through and begin posting their opinions" Who would be those real people, you? Not the critics then? I think you fail to understand that "real people" aren't PART of the industry. Critics, reviewers, whatever they are called do the same thing day in and day out, they play games for a living and give their opinions. The gaming industry critics are like the movie industry critics as in they have their favorites genres, they have their biases for or against Devs or studios and etc. They have their OWN wants and expectations from this studio or this Dev. Until the MASSES (that being the "real people") that are the ones that are gonna buy the game and determine if THEY like it or not, we really don't know what is gonna happen. Movie critics HAVE been wrong and game critics HAVE been wrong about what the "real people" want. Yes, there are many differences between a movie and a game that is actually so buggy it can't be played, but if the game is playable, it may be loved by millions DESPITE what the critics say.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 18, 2017 19:56:27 GMT
ME3 is a classic, MP saved it, I'm still playing and haven't touch SP since 2013. Won't touch SP in Andromeda either, now waiting for 67% price drop in June because of pisspoor sells like Titanfall 2, grab it to play with some friend and carry scrubs to victory. I'll be there waiting for you to carry this scrub to victory. I'm all for riding on the coattails of a good player.
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Post by fulcrum290 on Mar 18, 2017 20:10:54 GMT
I guess I just don't get people that play Mass Effect just for the multiplayer Most of us had hundreds of hours playing SP in ME1 and ME2, after ME3 ending we got butthurt and lost fate in Biower, but a broken clock is still right twice per day
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 18, 2017 20:24:44 GMT
I guess I just don't get people that play Mass Effect just for the multiplayer Most of us had hundreds of hours playing SP in ME1 and ME2, after ME3 ending we got butthurt and lost fate in Biower, but a broken clock is still right twice per day Guess I'm not like "most people".
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 18, 2017 20:31:29 GMT
I find that a lot of people who think "reviews are rigged" really think "I want reviews to be negative."
There are plenty of things in games to complain about. Give me a game I've played, I can probably come up with more than one thing to gripe about. But ultimately, a graphical glitch like the face motions in Andromeda isn't enough to turn me off of a game. Anyone who rants and raves about it probably has another reason to complain, they're just latching onto it so they don't look, well, petty.
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Post by Realguile on Mar 18, 2017 20:49:36 GMT
ME3 is a classic, MP saved it, I'm still playing and haven't touch SP since 2013. Won't touch SP in Andromeda either, now waiting for 67% price drop in June because of pisspoor sells like Titanfall 2, grab it to play with some friend and carry scrubs to victory. This cat knows the AAA true play.
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Post by taritu on Mar 18, 2017 21:50:38 GMT
I was disappointed by ME3. Finished it only once (and I finished ME1 and 2 many times. But I loved the MP and have hundreds of hours on it. Still, I'll probably finish SP before getting seriously into ME:A Multiplayer.
To me MP, in ME3 redeemed it. Made it one of my best game purchases that year.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 18, 2017 22:08:20 GMT
I find that a lot of people who think "reviews are rigged" really think "I want reviews to be negative." There are plenty of things in games to complain about. Give me a game I've played, I can probably come up with more than one thing to gripe about. But ultimately, a graphical glitch like the face motions in Andromeda isn't enough to turn me off of a game. Anyone who rants and raves about it probably has another reason to complain, they're just latching onto it so they don't look, well, petty. More like I want reviews to confirm my view.
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Post by taliesyn on Mar 18, 2017 22:44:57 GMT
"Anyway, again like ME3, I don't think we will have a accurate review of this game until "real people" have finished a play through and begin posting their opinions" Who would be those real people, you? Not the critics then? I think you fail to understand that "real people" aren't PART of the industry. Critics, reviewers, whatever they are called do the same thing day in and day out, they play games for a living and give their opinions. The gaming industry critics are like the movie industry critics as in they have their favorites genres, they have their biases for or against Devs or studios and etc. They have their OWN wants and expectations from this studio or this Dev. Until the MASSES (that being the "real people") that are the ones that are gonna buy the game and determine if THEY like it or not, we really don't know what is gonna happen. Movie critics HAVE been wrong and game critics HAVE been wrong about what the "real people" want. Yes, there are many differences between a movie and a game that is actually so buggy it can't be played, but if the game is playable, it may be loved by millions DESPITE what the critics say. You do realize you are supporting my assertion that we should ignore reviews by paid critics? Also: The forums will blow up any little thing into an all flame war it makes me wonder if people like you are even fans of Mass Effect and Dragon Age or just trolls trying to get a rise out of people. How does my saying we should ignore all of he professional reviewers hating on MEA translate into me being a troll that hates Mass Effect.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 18, 2017 22:53:55 GMT
I was disappointed by ME3. Finished it only once (and I finished ME1 and 2 many times. But I loved the MP and have hundreds of hours on it. Still, I'll probably finish SP before getting seriously into ME:A Multiplayer. To me MP, in ME3 redeemed it. Made it one of my best game purchases that year. I started my ME experience with ME3 and went back and played 1 and 2 later. The gameplay of ME3 SP and MP was really fun IMHO. I was disappointed in the original ending of ME3, but it was the end of the era and really, it probably was the best idea for Sheperd to sacrifice himself to save everyone. I was not as invested in his character and wasn't completely shattered and angry at Bioware. To me it made sense. With all that said, I am still looking at Andromeda from a gameplay standpoint, not about the story making perfect sense, not Ryder being a Sheperd clone, nothing at all like that. I want fun. I want to enjoy a long SP and then have all kinds of fun in Co Op MP (which is the only type I like) for a long time afterwards. I just played some ME3 MP a few minutes ago. I expect to play MEA MP for months and months to come. Good for me and people that think like me.
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Post by xassantex on Mar 18, 2017 23:56:24 GMT
... Interesting, right? That's the problem: a structural issue with the social dimension of mainstream media. And that's also why YouTubers (with all their flaws, we know) have risen and are now one of the most important voices for gamers. YouTubers have also learned from past mistakes, and, now, we probably rely more on them than on main gaming sites. Sites are for news and previews. But when it comes to real advice, you want a gamers opinion first. ah, and if YouTubers become really big and attract sponsors don't they fall into the same traps ? then only some underdogs 's opinions could be considered as valid ? and then one concludes" why don't i just play the thing myself and find out " . i'm just wondering about this as i don't follow game reviewers on YT .
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Post by Destroydacre on Mar 19, 2017 1:37:01 GMT
Seems like most YouTubers liked ME3 despite its ending. Now that MEA is out and they have something else to whine about, ME3 is suddenly being put up on a pedestal to prove how far backwards Bioware's gone. It's ridiculous. Gamers as a group are slow to forgive but quick to forget. I disagree with ME3 being put on a pedestal, more like that's the most recent thing they have to compare to. ME3 had plenty of technical issues, but it was also obviously very rushed. The MEA team had 5 years to work on this game. I haven't played it yet, so I can't make judgments for myself for another few days, but if the animations really are a step back from 3 with more than double the time to work on the game, then the criticism is warranted IMO.
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Post by ProbeAway on Mar 19, 2017 7:00:33 GMT
Now that MEA is out and they have something else to whine about, ME3 is suddenly being put up on a pedestal to prove how far backwards Bioware's gone. It's ridiculous. Gamers as a group are slow to forgive but quick to forget. I disagree with ME3 being put on a pedestal, more like that's the most recent thing they have to compare to. ME3 had plenty of technical issues, but it was also obviously very rushed. The MEA team had 5 years to work on this game. I haven't played it yet, so I can't make judgments for myself for another few days, but if the animations really are a step back from 3 with more than double the time to work on the game, then the criticism is warranted IMO. Put on a pedestal was an exaggeration but people are still talking like a few wonky facial animations make this a step backwards from the OT. I've played about 8 hours of the trial and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're wrong. There are a few wonky animations but on the whole the game looks fantastic. Some criticism of facial animations is warranted. What is happening online is just mob mentality.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 19, 2017 7:13:15 GMT
"Real People" reviews also gave ME3 a 0 out 10 because of the ending when most other aspects of ME3 was great for the standards that year. (I hated the stream lining action focused approach and I still enjoyed it) A lot of times, any sign of education is absent when listening to non professional reviews. Other times, it's just pure bias against one aspect. Stick to professional reviews and judge the game for yourself.
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August 2016
zipzap2000
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 19, 2017 7:14:41 GMT
ME3 is a classic, MP saved it, I'm still playing and haven't touch SP since 2013. Won't touch SP in Andromeda either, now waiting for 67% price drop in June because of pisspoor sells like Titanfall 2, grab it to play with some friend and carry scrubs to victory. I guess I just don't get people that play Mass Effect just for the multiplayer The internet's full of all kinds of weirdo's.
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