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Post by laxian on Mar 17, 2017 12:40:13 GMT
Hey guys,
so no true Spoiler (at least not beyond me saying something about gameplay, so I didn't censor the title - that ok, isn't it?), just me saying a few things about that "super" rover:
1. It drives (handles!) worse than the Mako (note: I never hated the Mako, sure it was wonky but it wasn't hard to drive either!)
2. It's so all terrain that mere contact with fucking WATER blows it up (does it blow up on ice? ^^)...also: Why can't we swim? We are wearing a fucking space-suit, so even poisoned water should be ok for us to swim in - nope, we also "blow up" kind of like our "nice" vehicle"...note: Isn't local oceans part of exploration (colonists need to know if they can swim in the water or not and if they can fish and use local marine life and water-plants for food!))
3. Why is 6 wheel drive slower than normal mode (makes no freaking sense what so ever!)?
Well, there you have it (it's one of the things the trial has showed me: I will probably not enjoy having to use this thing, it doesn't even have a gun and running over people doesn't always work either...this needs fixing, no Kett (or local wild-life!) should survive a frontal contact with a vehicle (unless the beast you try to run over is LARGER than the Nomad!))
Greetings LAX ps: did they you know tie up and gag the members of the Need For Speed team they were working with, so that they could re-implement the Mako without having to make sure it handles well?
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Mar 17, 2017 12:58:13 GMT
I totally agree with you on that first point! I thought maybe it was just me because I use KB/M and I don't have a menchanical gaming KB with a wide array of keys to choose from, just a standard "MICROSOFT" keyboard (which I really like)...But it has only your most standard buttons; so I used the number pad to the right so that I wasn't reaching across the keyboard and fumbling with keys like W A S D etc....But holy moly! What a pig! I"ve ridden in 86 Cadillacs that had better handling....That part was frustrating as hell! And the "Jump" wasn't smaller/shorter than the Mako....THe Nomad's verticle is pathetic.
To be totally honest, as much grief as the Mako always got....I actually never found it to be that bad. In fact I quite liked it. The one thing I didn't like was that silly little rocket-thingy (I think it was called "Hammerhead") that you got as DLC in "Bring down The Sky"....That was horrible. I never did figure out how to use it properly or effectively, and so I always preferred to stick with the MAKO.
I really hope they can some how improve the handling of the Nomad on release...Or that maybe because this was a demo and not the full game, that things aren't actually as bad in the 'real game'....
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 17, 2017 13:01:05 GMT
1. It drives (handles!) worse than the Mako (note: I never hated the Mako, sure it was wonky but it wasn't hard to drive either!) Troll. You are a troll or an awful ME1 zealot.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 17, 2017 14:54:29 GMT
I don't understand the difference between 4 and 6 wheel drive. Like, does two of the tires retract in 4 wheel to go faster? Can someone please explain to a flamboyant and technologically unsavvy gay boy like myself
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Post by laxian on Mar 17, 2017 14:56:32 GMT
1. It drives (handles!) worse than the Mako (note: I never hated the Mako, sure it was wonky but it wasn't hard to drive either!) Troll. You are a troll or an awful ME1 zealot. No to both, that thing is supposedly a heavy all terrain rover and it handles like it weighs nothing (well: Almost nothing) and I am not talking about the jump-jets (I love those!) it's easy to drift into stuff (or have that thing spin out of control totally if you do sharp turns!) because that thing doesn't have good grip on the terrain it travels over (unless you stay in 6 wheel drive mode, where the thing is quite slow! It also loses livesupport quite fast in irradiated zones (heavier than LvL 1 radiation hazard!)) greetings LAX ps: I love ME1, but if anything I am an ME2 zealot (and I don't like ME3 much, I love certain well done moments (Mordin's death, that Threshermaw mauling that Reaper, the scenes with Legion and his sacrifice (got both Geth and Quarians on my first run, did everything right it seems), shooting Udina (always wanted to...hell, I just started to warm up to that guy when suddenly he tries to pull a fast one on me, the council, the Alliance etc.) etc. etc. (and the gamplay was the smothest of the trillogy)...but over all? I don't like it much - too linear for an RPG (they should have let us decide who to recruit first - Dragon Age: Origins style), it treats choices like crap ("So you killed the Rachnii-Queen? Tough luck, here's another" (ok, I never did that - genocide is not my style...unless I truly see no other recourse!) or "So you killed Samara and went with Morinth? Here you have a named banshee you damned dip-shit!" etc. etc.) and don't get me started on that ending (hell: Without those dream sequences (hate them!) and the Star-Brat I'd have accepted it, despite the fact that I still would have liked a better one!)
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Post by laxian on Mar 17, 2017 15:07:16 GMT
I don't understand the difference between 4 and 6 wheel drive. Like, does two of the tires retract in 4 wheel to go faster? Can someone please explain to a flamboyant and technologically unsavvy gay boy like myself No it does not, I explain it like that: They only have an underpowered generator on board (all the Initiative equipment has flaws it seems, the armor gets people killed (or nearly killed), the ground vehicle isn't armed and is hard to drive and underpowered, the ship(s) aren't armed either, so every half decent mercenary group can board an ark or even the Nexus (so instead of shooting their ships to pieces it becomes damned urban ground warfare!) or even the Tempest (if they can find it...it doesn't seem to have a Normandy-Style-Stealth-System, so that's probably not that hard - it can only run away if something armed chases it!) etc. etc....if you want decent equipment you seem to have to barter with outside sources or research stuff on your own and then have it made especially for yourself!) , so it slows down (but gets better traction) when you run all 6 electric motors driving the thing...yeah, crappy explanation, but IMHO the only one that makes sense (otherwise you'd keep the thing in 6-Wheel-Drive-Mode all the time and it would go faster, too and still have better grip!) greets LAX ps: My best idea in the trial was using the first available crafting station to make myself a damned CARNIFEX (hate the Predator pistol, it doesn't deserve that name it should be called the Crapator or something like that...even the Phalanx is better (loved that in ME2 with that laser-sight...nice for planting headshots!)...good thing the Alliance is not using that as it's standard sidearm, the Phalanx is way better than this piece of junk! Sure it'll do in a pinch, but as soon as something better is available? GET IT!...especially if like me you prefer firing less rounds with more damage! (I am not a fan of extremely fast firing guns with low damage and a lot of spray...prefer accurate and slow firing )
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Post by frebu on Mar 17, 2017 17:20:15 GMT
You guys do know your driving a 6 wheeled vehicle at (according to the game) 50-60 mph on dirt and rocks. Try it in real life and you will find that it does drive like shit(also you would probably die but not the point). The Mako handled like shit ALL the time, slow, fast and not moving at all. The Nomad handles like shit at fast speeds.............and can be upgraded. WAIT WHAT!........yah the Nomand has upgrades which makes it better then the Mako by about oh..........(Insert percent based on what you can actually upgrade on the Nomand because I'm gonna be honest I didn't want to look it up). I'm not saying the Nomad is groundbreaking good but its better in its starting form then the Mako ever was. And yes the water thing is bullshit.
Nomad>Mako for life
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Post by Tittus on Mar 17, 2017 17:44:54 GMT
No, the Nomad is really bad. Mako at least always went to where I wanted. Nomad is a pain in the ass.
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Post by ProbeAway on Mar 18, 2017 4:56:45 GMT
Hey guys, so no true Spoiler (at least not beyond me saying something about gameplay, so I didn't censor the title - that ok, isn't it?), just me saying a few things about that "super" rover: 1. It drives (handles!) worse than the Mako (note: I never hated the Mako, sure it was wonky but it wasn't hard to drive either!) 2. It's so all terrain that mere contact with fucking WATER blows it up (does it blow up on ice? ^^)...also: Why can't we swim? We are wearing a fucking space-suit, so even poisoned water should be ok for us to swim in - nope, we also "blow up" kind of like our "nice" vehicle"...note: Isn't local oceans part of exploration (colonists need to know if they can swim in the water or not and if they can fish and use local marine life and water-plants for food!)) 3. Why is 6 wheel drive slower than normal mode (makes no freaking sense what so ever!)? Well, there you have it (it's one of the things the trial has showed me: I will probably not enjoy having to use this thing, it doesn't even have a gun and running over people doesn't always work either...this needs fixing, no Kett (or local wild-life!) should survive a frontal contact with a vehicle (unless the beast you try to run over is LARGER than the Nomad!)) Greetings LAX ps: did they you know tie up and gag the members of the Need For Speed team they were working with, so that they could re-implement the Mako without having to make sure it handles well? I haven't got to Eos yet so I'm still waiting to try the Nomad, but most things I've heard about it have been positive. There is a specific option in the gameplay menu to change the mouse sensitivity in vehicle mode - have you tried that?
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Post by ash on Mar 18, 2017 10:24:51 GMT
Nomad really left some awesome impressions. It's easy to drive, imo. Better than Mako. Tho I always have mouse sensitivity higher than most people do. Probs that matters?
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Post by laxian on Mar 18, 2017 12:07:37 GMT
Nomad really left some awesome impressions. It's easy to drive, imo. Better than nomad. Tho I always have mouse sensitivity higher than most people do. Probs that matters? Same here (I am always playing on max sensitivity (don't get why people don't and lift their mouse of their mouse-pad! Then again: I am a strange one, I am using a GLAS MOUSE-PAD, so cloth like a lot of people! Cloth just seems so tacky/crappy IMHO then there's the fact that my glass pad will hold for ages unless I drop and it shatters! Cloth needs regular replacements!) But no, that didn't matter (I did on the fly switching (my mouse a Logitech Proteus Spectrum G502 supports that) just to see if that's the issue - it isn't!) greetings LAX
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Post by cameronlfc on Mar 18, 2017 12:37:25 GMT
It seems it's only people with KB+M that have issues, I had no issues at all with my xbox controller.
My only quibble with the Nomad is the 6 wheel drive thing. They just made it that the Nomad can't go up hills so you have to press an extra button to change it's mode, instead of just letting people go up the hill anyway. It's like a "feature" for the sake of it
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Post by Wheeljack on Mar 18, 2017 12:49:49 GMT
I'm on KB+M and I had no trouble driving the Nomad. Default mouse sensitivity too and it drove like a dream. Only time I had issues was when I tried Skyrim-ing a steep ass cliff to see if I could.
The 6 wheel drive being slower does annoy me some, but not enough to effect my overall opinion.
Gets a huge A++ from me. :3
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Post by blanks on Mar 18, 2017 15:15:35 GMT
I much prefer the Mako. Felt faster and I never had problems like other people did (probably because I never treated Mass Effect's driving segments as Mountain Goat Simulator). Hopefully after I've upgraded the speed and jumping on the Nomad it doesn't feel so sluggish.
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 18, 2017 15:29:21 GMT
I'm on KB+M and I had no trouble driving the Nomad. Default mouse sensitivity too and it drove like a dream. Only time I had issues was when I tried Skyrim-ing a steep ass cliff to see if I could. The 6 wheel drive being slower does annoy me some, but not enough to effect my overall opinion. Gets a huge A++ from me. :3 How are you driving using the mouse? I could only use WASD keys. If there is something else I should be doing please tell me, because I cannot drive this thing for **** and it is dampening my enthusiasm to explore.
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Post by vyshekryshi on Mar 18, 2017 15:38:35 GMT
I'm on KB+M and I had no trouble driving the Nomad. Default mouse sensitivity too and it drove like a dream. Only time I had issues was when I tried Skyrim-ing a steep ass cliff to see if I could. The 6 wheel drive being slower does annoy me some, but not enough to effect my overall opinion. Gets a huge A++ from me. :3 How are you driving using the mouse? I could only use WASD keys. If there is something else I should be doing please tell me, because I cannot drive this thing for **** and it is dampening my enthusiasm to explore. Same in my game: no mouse (I tried everything), only WASD. It was unmanageable.
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Post by Wheeljack on Mar 18, 2017 15:50:17 GMT
I'm on KB+M and I had no trouble driving the Nomad. Default mouse sensitivity too and it drove like a dream. Only time I had issues was when I tried Skyrim-ing a steep ass cliff to see if I could. The 6 wheel drive being slower does annoy me some, but not enough to effect my overall opinion. Gets a huge A++ from me. :3 How are you driving using the mouse? I could only use WASD keys. If there is something else I should be doing please tell me, because I cannot drive this thing for **** and it is dampening my enthusiasm to explore. I think you misunderstood. I'm driving it with the WASD keys, as well. I use the mouse to keep an eye on my surroundings. I did give it a very thorough testing before driving it around normally, so maybe I just have a better idea of what to avoid? I usually tap AD to course correct while keeping W pressed down. I don't drive full speed if I have a lot of turning or rocky terrain to get around, though. That's when I tap W for variable amounts of time or shift into 6 gear since it's naturally slower (one of the few good things about it) and allows me to hold down W more. Speed can and does cause issues if you have weird or rocky terrain. Feels very realistic to me. :3
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 18, 2017 16:46:38 GMT
How are you driving using the mouse? I could only use WASD keys. If there is something else I should be doing please tell me, because I cannot drive this thing for **** and it is dampening my enthusiasm to explore. I think you misunderstood. I'm driving it with the WASD keys, as well. I use the mouse to keep an eye on my surroundings. I did give it a very thorough testing before driving it around normally, so maybe I just have a better idea of what to avoid? I usually tap AD to course correct while keeping W pressed down. I don't drive full speed if I have a lot of turning or rocky terrain to get around, though. That's when I tap W for variable amounts of time or shift into 6 gear since it's naturally slower (one of the few good things about it) and allows me to hold down W more. Speed can and does cause issues if you have weird or rocky terrain. Feels very realistic to me. :3 Darn, I was hoping you'd say "just hold down the middle mouse button and you can steer with the mouse." I'd really like it if the nomad could be steered by mouse instead of A and D. Right now it reminds me of that quote from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe: "Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow."
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Post by Rannik on Mar 18, 2017 17:26:47 GMT
I prefer the Mako as well, you're not crazy.
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Post by indrexu on Mar 18, 2017 19:18:29 GMT
Darn, I was hoping you'd say "just hold down the middle mouse button and you can steer with the mouse." I'd really like it if the nomad could be steered by mouse instead of A and D. have you tried messing around in keybindings
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 18, 2017 20:23:49 GMT
I don't understand the difference between 4 and 6 wheel drive. Like, does two of the tires retract in 4 wheel to go faster? Can someone please explain to a flamboyant and technologically unsavvy gay boy like myself Same difference between 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. Two wheel drive it's either the front two or back two wheels that the engine turns. The other two wheels spin with momentum. 4 wheel drive allows the engine to actually control all 4 wheels. This allows for more control and traction but typically bad use going at high speeds. Different story for all wheel drive which is what the Nomad basically is. All four wheels are turned by the engine to allow for control, traction and speed. It's like driving an Audi Quatro. 6 wheel drive is like going into 4 wheel drive where the engine now turns them as well putting more stress on the engine so it typically goes slower but with more power and traction. When nomad isn't in 6 wheel drive, the extra two wheels just spin with momentum pushed by the other 4 wheels. Hope this helps. Also, to anyone complaining bout the Nomad's speed. It's supposed to be slow because we get to upgrade the heck out of it. Pretty sad about no gun, but at least we get a defense blast.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2017 0:38:12 GMT
I kind of liked the Nomad. Putting it in 6-wheel drive and going up steep hills is cool. Sure, it can't climb sheer walls like the Mako but it's decent.
As for the water, it seemed to me like the issue was in regard to going out of "mission area" rather than that the Nomad can't handle it. I had the same problem near a Kett facility (going off the edge of a cliff to otherwise drive-able terrain below) as I did in water. Hence, I don't think the problem is the Nomad so much as how the game defines "mission territory".
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