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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 1, 2017 15:29:26 GMT
The more popular and main stream a youtuber is the more boring their channel is. I can honestly agree to that. The Tad Brad isn't the same anymore ever since he hit the millions on his subscribers. His content just isn't amazing anymore but he's still more serious than pewdiepie at least.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 1, 2017 15:38:05 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 1, 2017 15:58:28 GMT
I only have one response to this kid's videos: How will Pewdiepie ever recover?
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Post by joglee on Apr 1, 2017 16:00:59 GMT
Most popular? Quick, what's Justin Bieber's opinion on music? Or Kim Kardadhian's opinion on culture? They're really popular too so their opinions must matter too I hear McDonald's is 5star cuisine, I mean it has to be! It's the most popular food in the USA.
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Post by joglee on Apr 1, 2017 16:02:29 GMT
The more popular and main stream a youtuber is the more boring their channel is. I can honestly agree to that. The Tad Brad isn't the same anymore ever since he hit the millions on his subscribers. His content just isn't amazing anymore but he's still more serious than pewdiepie at least. Brad was the only one I used to follow...But my god is that dude horrible at games.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 1, 2017 16:07:45 GMT
I can honestly agree to that. The Tad Brad isn't the same anymore ever since he hit the millions on his subscribers. His content just isn't amazing anymore but he's still more serious than pewdiepie at least. Brad was the only one I used to follow...But my god is that dude horrible at games. Absolutely, there's been various scenarios where I could point out what he missed or things he could've done to not back track as much. In the end though people could probably do the same to me if I ever streamed what I played.
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Post by lyq3r on Apr 1, 2017 16:10:55 GMT
The more popular and main stream a youtuber is the more boring their channel is. Actually that's true. I got like six subscribers and anywhere I go to, people keep staring at me in awe, asking for autographs, interviews and selfies. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but man! - a hard work it is, I tell ya! Here's some boring shite for breaking the drill, because how long one can be so popular and uptight, if You're interested, ofc
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Post by Jacket on Apr 1, 2017 16:12:17 GMT
PewDiePie is just some overrated youtuber. I don't hate the guy but just because he's popular doesn't make is opinion more important than mine or yours.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 1, 2017 16:13:16 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox. And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. In other words, the size of your following usually doesnt indicate anything like quality or intelligence.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 1, 2017 16:14:18 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox. What is the reason his videos get 5-10m views, though?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 1, 2017 16:14:35 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox. And we should give a crap because?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 1, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
PewDiePie is just some overrated youtuber. I don't hate the guy but just because he's popular doesn't make is opinion more important than mine or yours. His opinion itself isn't what matters, his influence is a different matter because of his following and exposure he gets. There will be people who look at his videos and be turned off by what he shows.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 1, 2017 16:24:29 GMT
And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. Not sure that's a fact.
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Post by midasear on Apr 1, 2017 16:51:32 GMT
Since Bioware got purchased by EA, would be my rough guess. I fail to see a point in that statement? I mean, I get this feeling DA and ME sales are NOT following the normal progression for franchises achieving that kind of early mindshare, since EA took over. And this is totally in line with what always happened with all game franchises being purchased by EA. There's no direct correlation between good game and good sales. There's a correlation between good games and mindshare and a correlation between mindshare and good sales, but that is not straightforward. Mainly, it seems each predecessor has a huge impact on the sequel's sales. Particularly initial sales. Uhhhhhhhhhh......... My point is that, broadly speaking, tech companies can be divided into two kinds of firms: Product focused and sales focused. The old pre-EA Bioware was product focused. The goal of the people running the place was to create a particular type of product: Computer RPGs with stories a bit more engaging than a series of contrived excuses to invade monster dens, hack them to bits and steal their treasure. It was nice when lots of people bought these games because it let them make more. EA is a sales focused organization. Its goal is to sell whatever it can convince people to buy, and to maximize profits by maximizing sales. As far as EA's Redwood City HQ is concerned there is a PERFECT correlation between the quality of a game and that game's sales numbers. ...And PDP is still Sweden's most toxic export, practically an act of war on the rest of the world. Annoying Orange has more wit and class.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 1, 2017 16:52:48 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox. And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. In other words, the size of your following usually doesnt indicate anything like quality or intelligence. Ah yes, so because you don't like Donald Trump, that makes it a FACT that's he a dumb asshole. The inverse of the argument is, how much more dumb did you have to be for him to get elected, right?
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 1, 2017 18:10:22 GMT
And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. In other words, the size of your following usually doesnt indicate anything like quality or intelligence. Ah yes, so because you don't like Donald Trump, that makes it a FACT that's he a dumb asshole. The inverse of the argument is, how much more dumb did you have to be for him to get elected, right? Correct, which leaves us with the kind of people who lend credence to someone like Pewdiepie, no? Glad you agree with me.
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Post by luckystarr on Apr 1, 2017 18:11:04 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I, for one, have utmost respect for this person and what he managed to accomplish out of nothing. He found his wave and he's riding it. I have not seen much of him but I figure he has to be pretty smart. However, his content is not smart (yes, I have studied his channel out of scientific interest not long ago). It's not for smart people. Okay, okay, that was harsh and probably not true; rather, his content is for people who don't like to think and analyze. That says something about his subscribers. Combined with the fact that it's #1 channel on Yuoutube, it also says something about the majority of Earth's population. So yeah, considering PDD's target audience, I don't give a damn about his shocking, sensational and all those cheap adjectives review. If it was PDD's honest personal opinion, it would be different - he's just one person, but at least he deserves respect. But his channel is literally the yellow journalism of YouTube. Because guess what, the masses seem to like yellow, and so he provides. How will Pewdiepie ever recover? I don't know, man. I hope he doesn't. The better question is, how will this community and every single ME:A player ever recover from his "review"?
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Post by Arcian on Apr 1, 2017 18:17:05 GMT
The more popular and main stream a youtuber is the more boring their channel is. That's because commercialization kills everything.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 1, 2017 18:23:14 GMT
And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. In other words, the size of your following usually doesnt indicate anything like quality or intelligence. Ah yes, so because you don't like Donald Trump, that makes it a FACT that's he a dumb asshole. The inverse of the argument is, how much more dumb did you have to be for him to get elected, right? Trump being a dumb asshole is, in fact, a QUANTIFIABLE fact. It's all in the math, and is irrefutably true. Beyond that, yes Pubypie has the most followers on YouTube, and that is for various reasons. One being that some people actually enjoy his content, another that he is in the mainstream media and talked about on other YouTube channels because of his controversial videos (See his Fiver video with the "Death to Jews" and the one where he dresses like a Nazi and watches Nazi propaganda). He also had that gimmick where he said he would shut down his channel if he got to 50 million subscribers, and so many people wanted to see him do it that they subscribed. Now do many people watch his videos? Sure. Will his video on Mass Effect influence some of them? Sure, that how the internet and sheeple work. But there's also word of mouth and places like this. If my friend really enjoys a game but Pubes says it's crap, I'm going to trust my friend more. So what his overall effect will be is unsure, but I doubt one person could get thousands or even millions to not buy a game based on one opinion video.
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Post by luckystarr on Apr 1, 2017 18:35:09 GMT
The more popular and main stream a youtuber is the more boring their channel is. That's because commercialization kills everything. I don't think that's why. I think it's literally because when you try to attract a larger audience, you have to dumb your content down a bit.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 1, 2017 20:16:33 GMT
Ah yes, so because you don't like Donald Trump, that makes it a FACT that's he a dumb asshole. The inverse of the argument is, how much more dumb did you have to be for him to get elected, right? Trump being a dumb asshole is, in fact, a QUANTIFIABLE fact. It's all in the math, and is irrefutably true. Beyond that, yes Pubypie has the most followers on YouTube, and that is for various reasons. One being that some people actually enjoy his content, another that he is in the mainstream media and talked about on other YouTube channels because of his controversial videos (See his Fiver video with the "Death to Jews" and the one where he dresses like a Nazi and watches Nazi propaganda). He also had that gimmick where he said he would shut down his channel if he got to 50 million subscribers, and so many people wanted to see him do it that they subscribed. Now do many people watch his videos? Sure. Will his video on Mass Effect influence some of them? Sure, that how the internet and sheeple work. But there's also word of mouth and places like this. If my friend really enjoys a game but Pubes says it's crap, I'm going to trust my friend more. So what his overall effect will be is unsure, but I doubt one person could get thousands or even millions to not buy a game based on one opinion video. I'm curious what the measurement unit of "dumb asshole" is, if as you say it's quantifiable. I'm pretty sure we could make a much stronger quantitative argument that the man is a genius, simply basing it on the incredible levels of success he's experienced in life.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 1, 2017 20:37:16 GMT
Trump being a dumb asshole is, in fact, a QUANTIFIABLE fact. It's all in the math, and is irrefutably true. Beyond that, yes Pubypie has the most followers on YouTube, and that is for various reasons. One being that some people actually enjoy his content, another that he is in the mainstream media and talked about on other YouTube channels because of his controversial videos (See his Fiver video with the "Death to Jews" and the one where he dresses like a Nazi and watches Nazi propaganda). He also had that gimmick where he said he would shut down his channel if he got to 50 million subscribers, and so many people wanted to see him do it that they subscribed. Now do many people watch his videos? Sure. Will his video on Mass Effect influence some of them? Sure, that how the internet and sheeple work. But there's also word of mouth and places like this. If my friend really enjoys a game but Pubes says it's crap, I'm going to trust my friend more. So what his overall effect will be is unsure, but I doubt one person could get thousands or even millions to not buy a game based on one opinion video. I'm curious what the measurement unit of "dumb asshole" is, if as you say it's quantifiable. I'm pretty sure we could make a much stronger quantitative argument that the man is a genius, simply basing it on the incredible levels of success he's experienced in life. Well, it's off-topic and political, but you could go based on failings like Atlantic City, Trump Steaks, GoTrump.com, Trump Vodka, etc. You could base it on dumb stuff he has said like "Grab 'em by the pussy," and "No one knew healthcare could be so complicated!" Seriously? Then there's failed marriages, the fact he won the Presidency while having less of the popular vote, and many other examples. If you want to base his success off of being rich, he was rich the moment his daddy gave him $1 million, which he then needed more of daddy's $$ to bail him out later when his stupidity put this business in jeopardy. If you want to base success on how rich people are you should be congratulating lottery winners on their smart success, as well as No Man's Sky for being an amazing game due to the profits it made. As for Pubes, the question is most why do people watch his channel? For entertainment or for reviews? People may think he is hilarious and thus watch his videos, but not care what he says about games they might want to purchase. His channel does so many different types of videos that the majority cannot be watching for his reviews.
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Post by Arcian on Apr 1, 2017 21:50:28 GMT
I fail to see a point in that statement? I mean, I get this feeling DA and ME sales are NOT following the normal progression for franchises achieving that kind of early mindshare, since EA took over. And this is totally in line with what always happened with all game franchises being purchased by EA. There's no direct correlation between good game and good sales. There's a correlation between good games and mindshare and a correlation between mindshare and good sales, but that is not straightforward. Mainly, it seems each predecessor has a huge impact on the sequel's sales. Particularly initial sales. Uhhhhhhhhhh......... My point is that, broadly speaking, tech companies can be divided into two kinds of firms: Product focused and sales focused. The old pre-EA Bioware was product focused. The goal of the people running the place was to create a particular type of product: Computer RPGs with stories a bit more engaging than a series of contrived excuses to invade monster dens, hack them to bits and steal their treasure. It was nice when lots of people bought these games because it let them make more. EA is a sales focused organization. Its goal is to sell whatever it can convince people to buy, and to maximize profits by maximizing sales. As far as EA's Redwood City HQ is concerned there is a PERFECT correlation between the quality of a game and that game's sales numbers. ... And PDP is still Sweden's most toxic export, practically an act of war on the rest of the world. Annoying Orange has more wit and class. I take it you've never tried the popular swedish summer delicacy called surströmming (fermented herring)?
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 1, 2017 21:55:51 GMT
I love all these "who cares what this guy thinks" people. He has 54+ million subscribers, he's the got the largest following on Youtube. I mean, he has more subscribers than most European countries have populations. There's a reason his videos get 5-10m views within a few days of posting them. When he had 30m sub's he was making 7 million dollars a year just off add revenue. The guy makes more money in a month, than most people will make in a lifetime. And he makes it because of his soapbox. And Donald Trump is President of the United States, still doesnt change the fact he's a dumb asshole. In other words, the size of your following usually doesnt indicate anything like quality or intelligence. Yea it's the size of your hands, right Trump?
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Post by mordrek on Apr 2, 2017 0:02:15 GMT
I'm curious what the measurement unit of "dumb asshole" is, if as you say it's quantifiable. I'm pretty sure we could make a much stronger quantitative argument that the man is a genius, simply basing it on the incredible levels of success he's experienced in life. Well, it's off-topic and political, but you could go based on failings like Atlantic City, Trump Steaks, GoTrump.com, Trump Vodka, etc. You could base it on dumb stuff he has said like "Grab 'em by the pussy," and "No one knew healthcare could be so complicated!" Seriously? Then there's failed marriages, the fact he won the Presidency while having less of the popular vote, and many other examples. If you want to base his success off of being rich, he was rich the moment his daddy gave him $1 million, which he then needed more of daddy's $$ to bail him out later when his stupidity put this business in jeopardy. If you want to base success on how rich people are you should be congratulating lottery winners on their smart success, as well as No Man's Sky for being an amazing game due to the profits it made. As for Pubes, the question is most why do people watch his channel? For entertainment or for reviews? People may think he is hilarious and thus watch his videos, but not care what he says about games they might want to purchase. His channel does so many different types of videos that the majority cannot be watching for his reviews. Hopefully you understand how silly your statement was now.
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