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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 30, 2017 0:57:46 GMT
Might give a 6/10? I mean, they should just repackage this with CoD/Battlefield except with a lot less covering mechanics and a lot more space magic. It seems like CoD and DAI and SW:TOR all got together and tried to have a baby. It just ain't gonna work. Where does CoD even come from? I think people don't know what a real twitch shooter even is if they're going to say what you are. I think I'll stick to Andromeda being an action rpg like mass effect always has been......but more rpg than the previous games.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 30, 2017 1:00:15 GMT
Paul Tassi's at Forbes, I guess.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 30, 2017 1:04:09 GMT
That doesn't mean the new teams can't find their stride. But they need to get with the standards of AAA gaming, hire better writing talents, and try to innovate with their games again. Actually, ONLY CDPR have made any, and only one at that, game that surpasses Bioware and whether that will hold true in the future remains to be seen, no one else even makes games like these with this much content and cinematic storytelling. I havent got a clue what the standards for AAA gaming are today, but looking at what is out there it seems to be to make MP player games with a few (10 or less) hours of single player action, MOBA's or card games. When it comes to fps games there really is no standard since they all copy off each other rather than do innovative ideas. Mobas have been on the rise though and RPGs have been hit or miss. I know people reference the whitcher a lot, my question is what has changed since it's launch? I still remember people calling out its own bugs and stuff in 2015. I think if people view a failing bioware as bad, I'd quite honestly say that a bad bioware is still better than 90% of the industry lol.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 30, 2017 1:12:56 GMT
Dunno..... So far ME: A feels like a fresh start from the MET to me. See, that's something people refuse to accept. The comparisons to the original trilogy is quite stupid and people ignore the purpose. Andromeda has alreaDy been said it's a "spin-off" meaning it has absolutely no direct ties to the original. It still retains the mass effect name only by it still being in the same universe (and I can't stand the "why call it mass effect then?" As what else do you call something in the ME universe? If it were called mass effect 4 then you could bitch, but as said it's not a direct sequel to 3. I'll also add, it being a spin off with no ties to the original gives it more freedom to experiment. It's why they probably opted to try an open world aspect set on exploration rather than the corridor style that ME2 and 3 was. Hell, Andromeda is more RPG than action, that's a first since mass effect one which I enjoy a lot. 2-3 were great, but I think it naive to see them better than andromeda in the rpg department when I see them as what started getting ME involved more into the action aspect. cant forget those who says andromeda has awful characters, even though they haven't had two more games to build on them like the original did..........plus Andromeda has a better start on characters than ME1 did. I still remember half the squad mates essentially being CoD exes pretty much with little actual personal information.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 30, 2017 1:16:59 GMT
Comparing it to ME 3 either tuchanka or Rannoch is really disengenious. Both quests were the culmination of three games of plot and character drama.
Of course this isn't to say Andromeda isn't holding this own. The game has already broken my heart,made me feel an extreme sense of accomplishment, terrified me, and has given me one of the three toughest decisions i have had to make in an ME game...in a side quest. And when i went to go talk to an npc he bought it up and didn't let me talk to him. Effectively shutting me down.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 30, 2017 1:17:38 GMT
Actually, ONLY CDPR have made any, and only one at that, game that surpasses Bioware and whether that will hold true in the future remains to be seen, no one else even makes games like these with this much content and cinematic storytelling. I havent got a clue what the standards for AAA gaming are today, but looking at what is out there it seems to be to make MP player games with a few (10 or less) hours of single player action, MOBA's or card games. When it comes to fps games there really is no standard since they all copy off each other rather than do innovative ideas. Mobas have been on the rise though and RPGs have been hit or miss. I know people reference the whitcher a lot, my question is what has changed since it's launch? I still remember people calling out its own bugs and stuff in 2015. I think if people view a failing bioware as bad, I'd quite honestly say that a bad bioware is still better than 90% of the industry lol. Flawed BioWare still delivers something to the table, Dragon Age 2 is an example of that id argue.
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Post by goishen on Mar 30, 2017 1:20:05 GMT
Might give a 6/10? I mean, they should just repackage this with CoD/Battlefield except with a lot less covering mechanics and a lot more space magic. It seems like CoD and DAI and SW:TOR all got together and tried to have a baby. It just ain't gonna work. Where does CoD even come from? I think people don't know what a real twitch shooter even is if they're going to say what you are. I think I'll stick to Andromeda being an action rpg like mass effect always has been......but more rpg than the previous games. Well, I dunno a lot about CoD, as I didn't play it. But I believe it had jetpacks in there. I don't see why. But it did. If you've gone skeet shooting, you'd know the reason why I'm asking why. Up in the air is not where you want to be when bullets are flying your way. As a matter of fact, anybody that's played on anything higher than hardcore mode knows that any jump equals insta-death.
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Post by n7stars on Mar 30, 2017 1:27:15 GMT
I'm enjoying ME:A so much. I'd give it 8.5. If they patch the CC and somehow fix facial animations, it will be 9.0 for me. I play on PC, and have most on Ultra, 2k resolution with my gtx 1070. So far, I've only had some minur bugs, so Idk why people keep talking about bugs and tech issues .
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 30, 2017 2:17:20 GMT
I would say its about an 8/10. Imperfect and somewhat unfinished, brilliant in some parts and bad in others, and generally good and fun to play. I think there are many legitimate criticisms of the game but the game is 80% good and 20% bad. People seem to be focusing on the bad 20% instead of the good 80%. As for media reviews I think the Game Informer review hits most of the right notes. (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/mass_effect_andromeda/b/playstation4/archive/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-game-informer.aspx) I'd say it's 50% good and 50% bad, in contrast to DAI being 30% good and 70% bad. Haven't finished it yet but there's a lot of annoying terrible shite from writing, pacing, lore and graphics that make me want to puke.
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Post by parnashwind on Mar 30, 2017 2:17:51 GMT
I too find TotalBiscuit's review to be the fairest (maybe because... his reviews on many games usually mirrors my own thoughts).
To quote him: ME:A scores a solid 7/10 if there ever is one. 7/10 means good but flawed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 2:34:50 GMT
75 - 80 is a fair score for it. It's a good game with some technical flaws that drag the experience down at times.
On the other hand that gives it a lower score than DA:I, which I don't agree with. DA:I was a much more polished game, but it was grindy and boring compared to ME:A. I'd bump DA:I down to 70.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 30, 2017 3:03:47 GMT
I feel like Total Biscuit had the most honest and in-depth review out there. It's a long one, but pretty thorough. I am getting the game for the PC later, for now, just unplugging my friends PS4 and returning it to him. There is a strange issue with my widescreen monitor and the game itself. I have done all sorts of changes and it still goes back to that black screen with just the HUD appearing.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 30, 2017 3:07:16 GMT
Mine. I listen to my opinion. For example, my personal MC number? 89, and that's because of a few glitches I ran into. Still, I'd rather be playing this than anything else. Me too. I just have to wait it out again for the patches to roll in. My absolute loyalty to Bioware is gone and I hate... abhor... treating Bioware at the same level for Bethesda, Obsidian, Ubisoft, etc.
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Post by duckley on Mar 30, 2017 3:43:30 GMT
IMO it is a solid game 8/10.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 5:17:29 GMT
After finishing it, I would say it's a 4 out of 5. Some minor quirks, but otherwise very enjoyable.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 30, 2017 5:43:58 GMT
I've never played a Bioware game before where I didn't care to continue the story and was bored only 10-15 hours into the game. MP is fun enough, if only resembling ME3MP's terrific quality in the vaguest of senses.
Probably makes it a 5 or 6/10 here. Largely in line with the Gamespot one.
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Post by General Aetius on Mar 30, 2017 5:47:49 GMT
None of them. The only opinion I trust 100% is of the guy with the Cameron Monaghan avatar here.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 30, 2017 7:24:47 GMT
I feel like Total Biscuit had the most honest and in-depth review out there. Total biscuit made a WTF abpout technomancer. Apart from the fact that he kept losing to this game which was easy even on hard he was wrong about everything. Lost all my trust to him after that. He is a terrible player
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Post by vanillah on Mar 30, 2017 7:29:24 GMT
GameSpot one and the discussion on the latest Giant Bomb podcast is how i feel about ME:A. i myself think that ME:A is mediocre game, and would give it 5/10.
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Post by supersomething on Mar 30, 2017 8:43:43 GMT
I feel like Total Biscuit had the most honest and in-depth review out there. +1 for this. His review covered all the bases essentially.
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 30, 2017 10:01:33 GMT
I really like the beginning of Eurogamer's review:
"You've barely laid eyes on the kett before you're looting their corpses, filling your pockets with gun parts, credit chips and omni-sellable "salvage" items wrapped in pointless flavour text. You've hardly swapped greetings with the angara - the friendliest of Andromeda's three new species - before you're running errands for them, dropping off lunch for resistance fighters or plunging through purple jungles in search of a scientist's mislaid revision notes.
If there's any genuine mystery or intrigue to the idea of travelling 2.5 million lightyears to colonise another galaxy, BioWare's fourth Mass Effect smacks it over the head with a prospector's shovel and boots it out the airlock during the first few hours of play."
The first contact with the Angara in particular was so terribly, terribly done.
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Post by shechinah on Mar 30, 2017 10:12:23 GMT
I really like the beginning of Eurogamer's review: 1. "You've barely laid eyes on the kett before you're looting their corpses, filling your pockets with gun parts, credit chips and omni-sellable "salvage" items wrapped in pointless flavour text. 2. You've hardly swapped greetings with the angara - the friendliest of Andromeda's three new species - before you're running errands for them, dropping off lunch for resistance fighters or plunging through purple jungles in search of a scientist's mislaid revision notes. 3. If there's any genuine mystery or intrigue to the idea of travelling 2.5 million lightyears to colonise another galaxy, BioWare's fourth Mass Effect smacks it over the head with a prospector's shovel and boots it out the airlock during the first few hours of play." The first contact with the Angara in particular was so terribly, terribly done. I disagree. 1. The reason you're looting the kett before you've barely laid eyes on them is because the kett establishes from the beginning that they are hostile and attack on sight. Speaking as someone who hasn't completed the game yet, the kett are a mystery that is gradually revealed as the story progresses on. 2. The reason you're running "errands" for the angaran is to earn their trust and turn their opinion of you by proving yourself to be an ally that will help them out. Even if you skip out on the minor missions, you still have to earn their trust through the story mission before they'll even let you into their city. 3. I consider the remnant and the kett to be interesting mysteries. I have my complaints about how the game handled first contact including with the angara but I don't think it did it terribly.
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Post by fenris on Mar 30, 2017 10:19:36 GMT
i think anything lower than 80 is best, bcuz srsly this is the wost game Bioware has offered us. Someone skipped NWN1 I take it? Just kidding, LOVE that game!
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Post by annerogers on Mar 30, 2017 11:08:18 GMT
i think anything lower than 80 is best, bcuz srsly this is the wost game Bioware has offered us. No that is DA2. Someone never played Jade Empire.
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Post by mrtijger on Mar 30, 2017 11:13:50 GMT
I really like the beginning of Eurogamer's review: "You've barely laid eyes on the kett before you're looting their corpses, filling your pockets with gun parts, credit chips and omni-sellable "salvage" items wrapped in pointless flavour text. You've hardly swapped greetings with the angara - the friendliest of Andromeda's three new species - before you're running errands for them, dropping off lunch for resistance fighters or plunging through purple jungles in search of a scientist's mislaid revision notes. If there's any genuine mystery or intrigue to the idea of travelling 2.5 million lightyears to colonise another galaxy, BioWare's fourth Mass Effect smacks it over the head with a prospector's shovel and boots it out the airlock during the first few hours of play." The first contact with the Angara in particular was so terribly, terribly done. And their solution to the above 'problem' is...what? Oh, thats right, they have nothing to offer except some desire that 'it should be different' somehow. Maybe like No Man Sky did it? Oh wait...that didnt work out either. Oh dear, oh dear. There are only so many ways you can do these things, I saw little wrong with the Angaran first contact situation and it was all fairly logical to me
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