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Post by smilesja on Mar 21, 2017 13:42:23 GMT
That gamers have a tendancy to be petty?
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 21, 2017 13:44:40 GMT
This only demonstrates how utterly broken and petty user reviews are. They are now just another forum to vent disappointment and jump on a bandwagon. Nothing approaching an attempt to offer a score with any sense of perspective. The games an average experience by all accounts, disappointing yes but not horrendous, however according to user reviews it's one of the worst AAA games in decades. Being a part of an established franchise is a double edged sword, you get a dedicated following, but also expectations. I'd say that user reviews would be most useful if they only had positive Vs. negative rather than a point system. (maybe also "neutral") Yes, one good thing about Steam, I think...though it is lacking a "neutral" option. Then again, maybe that's a good thing
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Post by bomber on Mar 21, 2017 13:48:37 GMT
Theres no smoke without fire. While ofcourse theres those 0, i also see some good reasons behind some of them. For example i was quite shocked about that racist eployee they had/or is as well.... People have all the rights to bold it out by any means cuz its not acceptable. In the end of the day people who are really interested in this game kinda knows whats about. Personally i doubt it should rate lower than inquisition, but who knows, i have played yust trial. At least potential is deffinately there to be 8+ game.
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 21, 2017 13:50:03 GMT
Is that because of bugs of you don't get along with the writing I'm on xbox one and it seems like ps4 has more issues ! Anything with this many 0's is being bombed by trolls. The proper score should probably be 6-7 either way. Twitters big gripe appears to be animations I see writing mentioned on the BSN. On metacritic its everything from the above, to quite literally "a women(sic) made this game." Edit: 3.8 Ah sorry i misunderstood I thought was your score for the game hece me asking why
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Post by jastall on Mar 21, 2017 13:51:04 GMT
Many of the bad User Reviews are along the lines of "SJW's ruining yet another game". The 10s on the other hand seem to be there to spite the 0s Which is why Metacritic user scores are mostly useless. I mean, I think scores in general aren't very useful in the first place and only serve to validate opinions rather than actually inform consumers, but as bad the video game press is, they usually try to give every game a fair chance. When you've got trolls bombing a game with 0s hours after release, and fanbois giving it 10 before they've even played it... I'm sorry, the score is just not a useful piece of information at all. You'd be better served by checking out the 5-6-7 ''Mixed'' reviews, those usually give good feedback with pros and cons. Note that this isn't exclusive to Bioware in the least, before I get called out. Company of Heroes 2 got its user rating bombed into oblivion because some Russian dude told his followers to do it. Call of Duty automatically gets bombed because ''it's all the same'' while Battlefield is praised to the high heavens when they gave BF4 a thin veneer of a World War One skin. As soon as a game is even mildly controversial, the bandwagon effect is on in full force.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 21, 2017 13:52:42 GMT
I played the trial and I honestly loved what I saw of the story and the characters, so that is kind of subjective to each individual player. I tried to comment only on universal acknowledgements that the combat is far improved and the environments are visually far beyond the original trilogy, and the game is far more huge in size and scope than any of the others. They can be seen more as facts than opinions.
I've seen loads of positive reviews from people who liked the story and the characters. It has been scored 90s and 80s by review sites that liked most of it, and 60s and 70s by others that were more disappointed. It is FAR from a terrible game (I've played some in my time, believe me!) and while some minor criticisms are rightly deserved the majority of the really bad, negative reviews so far are actually from people just repeating hate filled rants about animations and plot on a game they haven't even played yet.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 21, 2017 13:53:20 GMT
Anything with this many 0's is being bombed by trolls. The proper score should probably be 6-7 either way. Twitters big gripe appears to be animations I see writing mentioned on the BSN. On metacritic its everything from the above, to quite literally "a women(sic) made this game." Edit: 3.8 Ah sorry i misunderstood I thought was your score for the game hece me asking why Probably the thread you're looking for. bsn.boards.net/thread/5717/me-fans-happy-purchase?page=1#post-442514
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Post by degs29 on Mar 21, 2017 13:54:37 GMT
Bioware's Metacritic user rankings (using latest Xbox system as barometer) by game since Knights of the Old Republic:
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 9.2 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II (2004) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 8.6 Jade Empire (2005) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 8.6 Mass Effect (2007) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 8.7 Dragon Age: Origins (2009) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 7.9 Mass Effect 2 (2010) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 8.9 Dragon Age 2 (2011) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 4.5 Mass Effect 3 (2012) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 5.6 Dragon Age: Inquisition (2014) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 6.9 Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 3.9
Clearly, something went wrong. It's like Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3's ending turned Bioware's fans against them. They gave a good showing with Inquisition, but fans wouldn't let the previous two installments go. Andromeda's a good game, but not good enough to be easily defended from criticism; which of course brings the haters out of their shadows. I think we're paying for EA's lack of vision.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 14:03:33 GMT
With user reviews you have to ignore anything that is scored a 9 or 10 and anything scored 0 or 1. The only reviews worth reading are the ones with scores somewhere in between. The 0s and 1s are just hate posts by people who won't or can't acknowledge anything the game actually does right, and the 9s and 10s are blind fanboys who hand wave or ignore any flaws the game does have. You won't get an accurate assessment of any game from any of them.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 21, 2017 14:06:56 GMT
3.9
Quote from a positive reviewer this time.
"At this point, it's difficult to be surprised when someone's hard work gets torn to shreds on the internet by jaded, entitled babies with nothing better to do than dump on forums, review sites, and youtube comment threads. However, the amount of nitpicking and totally unjustified expectations at play for the (very small and largely insignificant) vocal public is mind-blowing. I do take some solace in the fact that most would rather try to bring down the review score average as much as possible than have their reviews taken seriously; a 0, really?"
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Post by Missy Mako on Mar 21, 2017 14:32:44 GMT
People who are enjoying the game but worried this might mean 'the death of Mass Effect' due to minimal sales: don't be.
Ghost Recon: Wildlands came out recently and despite having worse critic reviews (and only slightly better user reviews) it's been topping the sales charts. Personally, based on the beta of Wildlands... those average reviews are kinda deserve in my opinion (where as based on Andromeda's EA access, I'd say it deserves much better), but it's still selling exceptionally well.
I expect the average consumer will either buy or not buy Andromeda based on the Mass Effect/Bioware brand alone and be blissfully unaware of all the 'controversy' surrounding the animations and reviews, so, they actually will form their own opinions. As it should be.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 15:11:18 GMT
Oh stuff it. Nobody denied that the game would get review bombed by the internet jackass brigade.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 15:20:46 GMT
lol @ user score Look at these golden nuggets. I don't see an agenda here. Do you? ---- SJWs manage to ruin another excellent saga, good job. Facial animations are reaaaaallly bad, like PS1 tier era or even worse. I wonder when EA will be satisfied. ---- muh transexuals muh pandering muh F.AGS muh progressive ideals muh dy.kes muh mentally ill shemales muh **** writing muh fetch quests --- Yet another game where the liberals ruined their game with an agenda. Bioware decided to hire transexuals, feminists and racists in the design team. Not artists or people based on skill. The animations and models where designed by a women. This is not the same team that worked on mass effect 1,2 and 3. This is a new studio that had an agenda and implemented into the game. --- Do not buy this trash. Do not support cancerous sjw community and Bioware as their PR part in videogame industry. We don't need imposing of wrong ideas and politics in gaming -- not only did they ruin everything in this game, including facial animations, but the dialogues, the poor voice-acting. The constant pandering to minorities, lefties, SJW, liberals, lesbian and trans. --- LOL Don't have to look far to find Cletus and his buddies spreading their derp.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 17:05:24 GMT
Sad, but expected. Some groups of children delight in shitting on work of others ( as some infantile guise of "superiority", I guess), especially when they lack in being creative in their own right. I love video games and put them above any other medium, but I wouldn't wish a job of developing one on anyone.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 22, 2017 2:00:25 GMT
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Post by degs29 on Mar 22, 2017 2:15:23 GMT
There was a time, about a decade ago, where I trusted user reviews more than critic reviews. Oh, how the times have changed!
So ME:A is at a 3.8 right now. But if you take away all the reviews from anti-SJWs who go on and on about racist developers and feminist agendas, the score bumps to the 6s. Then if you also remove all the reviews from the gamers still salty about ME3's ending, you bump that up to the 7s, which is right where critics are.
Honestly, this game deserves neither a 0 or a 10, but that's the majority of user reviews. Especially 0s.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 22, 2017 3:19:33 GMT
Here is the thing. I don't even go to review sites because most of the time they are just twats, so MEA getting that score really doesn't bother me.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 22, 2017 3:30:49 GMT
There was a time, about a decade ago, where I trusted user reviews more than critic reviews. Oh, how the times have changed! So ME:A is at a 3.8 right now. But if you take away all the reviews from anti-SJWs who go on and on about racist developers and feminist agendas, the score bumps to the 6s. Then if you also remove all the reviews from the gamers still salty about ME3's ending, you bump that up to the 7s, which is right where critics are. Honestly, this game deserves neither a 0 or a 10, but that's the majority of user reviews. Especially 0s. How could anyone seriously give MEA a 0? A game should be basically unplayable AND severely offensive to give it a score of 0. Even with the technical issues, which there are some, and if you happen to not like the dialogue, anything less than a 6 for a playable game with minor issues, at least decent writing, and fairly good RPG systems is ridiculous. Personally, having played about 16-20 hours so far, I love it! I've had like two glitches and two time being kicked out of the game, and that's pretty much it for technical issues. I like the writing, the combat, the RPG elements, the acting, everything just seems great to me! I'd give it at least an 8.5. Probably a 9. People are not reviewing it based on what the game is. People keep reviewing it on what it isn't! This doesn't happen with many other games. For Honor gets a higher Metacritic store with what people call basically a throwaway main plot and pretty good but in general very simple rock-paper-scissors combat, because why?? It's not compared to Zelda, HZD, etc. How is For Honor a better game than MEA?? You are telling me Daganropa 1-2 Reloaded is a better game than MEA? For what reason? It's ridiculous. Gameranx does a Before You Buy of MEA and complains about the platforming and SudoKu puzzles of MEA vaults, but Zelda BOTW gets praised for it's what? Simple platforming and stupidly-simple shrine puzzles?? Come on! HZD gets praised for it's great visuals, which MEA has, stripped-down RPG system, which MEA has expanded upon, and combat, which is shoot the thing on the glowy parts until it dies, or hit it with your stick until it dies. Sure, that's a bit more than that, but come on, the combat in MEA is way more exciting and variable. HZD may be more polished than MEA, but it's also about 1/4 as large and as long. And has the same type of fetch quests. "Bring me a lense of a Strider." "Find my father's spear." Simple fetch quest, but it gets praised for it! Even TW3 gets praised for its side quest design, but many of them boil down to "There's a thing terrorizing a place. Go kill it." There's the one "Go put this ring on a grave. Fight the thing. Tell me how it goes." Yeah, that's way different than any fetch quest. *sarcasm It just really pisses me off. Sure, some people probably genuinely dislike the game. But for it to get a user score of 3.8 or so is unforgivable for those reviewing it. Skyrim is one of the buggiest games ever but gets praised. It just.... ugh! There needs to be a verification system on Metacritic for user reviews to prove you own the game and have played it. That way butthurt morons can't jump on some hate bandwagon and give a freaking good game a ZERO because of "endings" or "pandering" or "the facial animations I saw on YouTube." If only people who played the game got to give a review score, the score would be much MUCH higher. At least more in the range of the critic reviews.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 22, 2017 3:49:36 GMT
There was a time, about a decade ago, where I trusted user reviews more than critic reviews. Oh, how the times have changed! So ME:A is at a 3.8 right now. But if you take away all the reviews from anti-SJWs who go on and on about racist developers and feminist agendas, the score bumps to the 6s. Then if you also remove all the reviews from the gamers still salty about ME3's ending, you bump that up to the 7s, which is right where critics are. Honestly, this game deserves neither a 0 or a 10, but that's the majority of user reviews. Especially 0s. How could anyone seriously give MEA a 0? A game should be basically unplayable AND severely offensive to give it a score of 0. Even with the technical issues, which there are some, and if you happen to not like the dialogue, anything less than a 6 for a playable game with minor issues, at least decent writing, and fairly good RPG systems is ridiculous. Personally, having played about 16-20 hours so far, I love it! I've had like two glitches and two time being kicked out of the game, and that's pretty much it for technical issues. I like the writing, the combat, the RPG elements, the acting, everything just seems great to me! I'd give it at least an 8.5. Probably a 9. People are not reviewing it based on what the game is. People keep reviewing it on what it isn't! This doesn't happen with many other games. For Honor gets a higher Metacritic store with what people call basically a throwaway main plot and pretty good but in general very simple rock-paper-scissors combat, because why?? It's not compared to Zelda, HZD, etc. How is For Honor a better game than MEA?? You are telling me Daganropa 1-2 Reloaded is a better game than MEA? For what reason? It's ridiculous. Gameranx does a Before You Buy of MEA and complains about the platforming and SudoKu puzzles of MEA vaults, but Zelda BOTW gets praised for it's what? Simple platforming and stupidly-simple shrine puzzles?? Come on! HZD gets praised for it's great visuals, which MEA has, stripped-down RPG system, which MEA has expanded upon, and combat, which is shoot the thing on the glowy parts until it dies, or hit it with your stick until it dies. Sure, that's a bit more than that, but come on, the combat in MEA is way more exciting and variable. HZD may be more polished than MEA, but it's also about 1/4 as large and as long. And has the same type of fetch quests. "Bring me a lense of a Strider." "Find my father's spear." Simple fetch quest, but it gets praised for it! Even TW3 gets praised for its side quest design, but many of them boil down to "There's a thing terrorizing a place. Go kill it." There's the one "Go put this ring on a grave. Fight the thing. Tell me how it goes." Yeah, that's way different than any fetch quest. *sarcasm It just really pisses me off. Sure, some people probably genuinely dislike the game. But for it to get a user score of 3.8 or so is unforgivable for those reviewing it. Skyrim is one of the buggiest games ever but gets praised. It just.... ugh! There needs to be a verification system on Metacritic for user reviews to prove you own the game and have played it. That way butthurt morons can't jump on some hate bandwagon and give a freaking good game a ZERO because of "endings" or "pandering" or "the facial animations I saw on YouTube." If only people who played the game got to give a review score, the score would be much MUCH higher. At least more in the range of the critic reviews. Witcher 3 side quests actually feel like you've done something worth doing though (I Don't like TW3 but you feel like these are u From what I can see Bio made longer, dragon age style fetch quests where the quest amounts to "push a button" and a lot of them.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 22, 2017 3:56:39 GMT
There was a time, about a decade ago, where I trusted user reviews more than critic reviews. Oh, how the times have changed! So ME:A is at a 3.8 right now. But if you take away all the reviews from anti-SJWs who go on and on about racist developers and feminist agendas, the score bumps to the 6s. Then if you also remove all the reviews from the gamers still salty about ME3's ending, you bump that up to the 7s, which is right where critics are. Honestly, this game deserves neither a 0 or a 10, but that's the majority of user reviews. Especially 0s. How could anyone seriously give MEA a 0? A game should be basically unplayable AND severely offensive to give it a score of 0. Even with the technical issues, which there are some, and if you happen to not like the dialogue, anything less than a 6 for a playable game with minor issues, at least decent writing, and fairly good RPG systems is ridiculous. Personally, having played about 16-20 hours so far, I love it! I've had like two glitches and two time being kicked out of the game, and that's pretty much it for technical issues. I like the writing, the combat, the RPG elements, the acting, everything just seems great to me! I'd give it at least an 8.5. Probably a 9. People are not reviewing it based on what the game is. People keep reviewing it on what it isn't! This doesn't happen with many other games. For Honor gets a higher Metacritic store with what people call basically a throwaway main plot and pretty good but in general very simple rock-paper-scissors combat, because why?? It's not compared to Zelda, HZD, etc. How is For Honor a better game than MEA?? You are telling me Daganropa 1-2 Reloaded is a better game than MEA? For what reason? It's ridiculous. Gameranx does a Before You Buy of MEA and complains about the platforming and SudoKu puzzles of MEA vaults, but Zelda BOTW gets praised for it's what? Simple platforming and stupidly-simple shrine puzzles?? Come on! HZD gets praised for it's great visuals, which MEA has, stripped-down RPG system, which MEA has expanded upon, and combat, which is shoot the thing on the glowy parts until it dies, or hit it with your stick until it dies. Sure, that's a bit more than that, but come on, the combat in MEA is way more exciting and variable. HZD may be more polished than MEA, but it's also about 1/4 as large and as long. And has the same type of fetch quests. "Bring me a lense of a Strider." "Find my father's spear." Simple fetch quest, but it gets praised for it! Even TW3 gets praised for its side quest design, but many of them boil down to "There's a thing terrorizing a place. Go kill it." There's the one "Go put this ring on a grave. Fight the thing. Tell me how it goes." Yeah, that's way different than any fetch quest. *sarcasm It just really pisses me off. Sure, some people probably genuinely dislike the game. But for it to get a user score of 3.8 or so is unforgivable for those reviewing it. Skyrim is one of the buggiest games ever but gets praised. It just.... ugh! There needs to be a verification system on Metacritic for user reviews to prove you own the game and have played it. That way butthurt morons can't jump on some hate bandwagon and give a freaking good game a ZERO because of "endings" or "pandering" or "the facial animations I saw on YouTube." If only people who played the game got to give a review score, the score would be much MUCH higher. At least more in the range of the critic reviews. Witcher 3 side quests actually feel like you've done something worth doing though (I Don't like TW3) you feel like these are urgent and require effort. Part of that probably comes from having to prepare for fights in the right way beforehand. The rest would be unique missions and consequences. I recall I accidentally unleashed a plague that ravaged an entire city at one point. From what I can see Bio made longer, dragon age style fetch quests where the quest amounts to "push a button" and a lot of them.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 22, 2017 4:26:44 GMT
There was a time, about a decade ago, where I trusted user reviews more than critic reviews. Oh, how the times have changed! So ME:A is at a 3.8 right now. But if you take away all the reviews from anti-SJWs who go on and on about racist developers and feminist agendas, the score bumps to the 6s. Then if you also remove all the reviews from the gamers still salty about ME3's ending, you bump that up to the 7s, which is right where critics are. Honestly, this game deserves neither a 0 or a 10, but that's the majority of user reviews. Especially 0s. How could anyone seriously give MEA a 0? A game should be basically unplayable AND severely offensive to give it a score of 0. Even with the technical issues, which there are some, and if you happen to not like the dialogue, anything less than a 6 for a playable game with minor issues, at least decent writing, and fairly good RPG systems is ridiculous. Personally, having played about 16-20 hours so far, I love it! I've had like two glitches and two time being kicked out of the game, and that's pretty much it for technical issues. I like the writing, the combat, the RPG elements, the acting, everything just seems great to me! I'd give it at least an 8.5. Probably a 9. People are not reviewing it based on what the game is. People keep reviewing it on what it isn't! This doesn't happen with many other games. For Honor gets a higher Metacritic store with what people call basically a throwaway main plot and pretty good but in general very simple rock-paper-scissors combat, because why?? It's not compared to Zelda, HZD, etc. How is For Honor a better game than MEA?? You are telling me Daganropa 1-2 Reloaded is a better game than MEA? For what reason? It's ridiculous. Gameranx does a Before You Buy of MEA and complains about the platforming and SudoKu puzzles of MEA vaults, but Zelda BOTW gets praised for it's what? Simple platforming and stupidly-simple shrine puzzles?? Come on! HZD gets praised for it's great visuals, which MEA has, stripped-down RPG system, which MEA has expanded upon, and combat, which is shoot the thing on the glowy parts until it dies, or hit it with your stick until it dies. Sure, that's a bit more than that, but come on, the combat in MEA is way more exciting and variable. HZD may be more polished than MEA, but it's also about 1/4 as large and as long. And has the same type of fetch quests. "Bring me a lense of a Strider." "Find my father's spear." Simple fetch quest, but it gets praised for it! Even TW3 gets praised for its side quest design, but many of them boil down to "There's a thing terrorizing a place. Go kill it." There's the one "Go put this ring on a grave. Fight the thing. Tell me how it goes." Yeah, that's way different than any fetch quest. *sarcasmIt just really pisses me off. Sure, some people probably genuinely dislike the game. But for it to get a user score of 3.8 or so is unforgivable for those reviewing it. Skyrim is one of the buggiest games ever but gets praised. It just.... ugh! There needs to be a verification system on Metacritic for user reviews to prove you own the game and have played it. That way butthurt morons can't jump on some hate bandwagon and give a freaking good game a ZERO because of "endings" or "pandering" or "the facial animations I saw on YouTube." If only people who played the game got to give a review score, the score would be much MUCH higher. At least more in the range of the critic reviews. I don't think you've played TW3... It literally has the best side-quests in the RPG genre, ever. There's a reason why Mass Effect devs said this: "But we've also observed what other games have been doing, like The Witcher." Condominas continues, stressing that bigger isn't always better in that sidequests must be "meaningful" in order to be impactful—something The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in particular carried off particularly well. "And it was very important for us that the quantity of scope doesn't downgrade the quality of whatever your are doing there." Apart from the loyalty missions, the side-quests in ME:A are largely filler, and certainly not meaningful. Feel free to disagree...
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 22, 2017 4:30:11 GMT
Eh, I could never get into the witcher series. I have a hard time playing games where I can't change my combat style or looks of my character like how the Witcher series does.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 22, 2017 7:35:28 GMT
How could anyone seriously give MEA a 0? A game should be basically unplayable AND severely offensive to give it a score of 0. Even with the technical issues, which there are some, and if you happen to not like the dialogue, anything less than a 6 for a playable game with minor issues, at least decent writing, and fairly good RPG systems is ridiculous. Personally, having played about 16-20 hours so far, I love it! I've had like two glitches and two time being kicked out of the game, and that's pretty much it for technical issues. I like the writing, the combat, the RPG elements, the acting, everything just seems great to me! I'd give it at least an 8.5. Probably a 9. People are not reviewing it based on what the game is. People keep reviewing it on what it isn't! This doesn't happen with many other games. For Honor gets a higher Metacritic store with what people call basically a throwaway main plot and pretty good but in general very simple rock-paper-scissors combat, because why?? It's not compared to Zelda, HZD, etc. How is For Honor a better game than MEA?? You are telling me Daganropa 1-2 Reloaded is a better game than MEA? For what reason? It's ridiculous. Gameranx does a Before You Buy of MEA and complains about the platforming and SudoKu puzzles of MEA vaults, but Zelda BOTW gets praised for it's what? Simple platforming and stupidly-simple shrine puzzles?? Come on! HZD gets praised for it's great visuals, which MEA has, stripped-down RPG system, which MEA has expanded upon, and combat, which is shoot the thing on the glowy parts until it dies, or hit it with your stick until it dies. Sure, that's a bit more than that, but come on, the combat in MEA is way more exciting and variable. HZD may be more polished than MEA, but it's also about 1/4 as large and as long. And has the same type of fetch quests. "Bring me a lense of a Strider." "Find my father's spear." Simple fetch quest, but it gets praised for it! Even TW3 gets praised for its side quest design, but many of them boil down to "There's a thing terrorizing a place. Go kill it." There's the one "Go put this ring on a grave. Fight the thing. Tell me how it goes." Yeah, that's way different than any fetch quest. *sarcasmIt just really pisses me off. Sure, some people probably genuinely dislike the game. But for it to get a user score of 3.8 or so is unforgivable for those reviewing it. Skyrim is one of the buggiest games ever but gets praised. It just.... ugh! There needs to be a verification system on Metacritic for user reviews to prove you own the game and have played it. That way butthurt morons can't jump on some hate bandwagon and give a freaking good game a ZERO because of "endings" or "pandering" or "the facial animations I saw on YouTube." If only people who played the game got to give a review score, the score would be much MUCH higher. At least more in the range of the critic reviews. I don't think you've played TW3... It literally has the best side-quests in the RPG genre, ever. There's a reason why Mass Effect devs said this: "But we've also observed what other games have been doing, like The Witcher." Condominas continues, stressing that bigger isn't always better in that sidequests must be "meaningful" in order to be impactful—something The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in particular carried off particularly well. "And it was very important for us that the quantity of scope doesn't downgrade the quality of whatever your are doing there." Apart from the loyalty missions, the side-quests in ME:A are largely filler, and certainly not meaningful. Feel free to disagree... Some TW3 sidequests is so amazing, it tells a full story on its own. E.g. A towerful of mice; wild at heart; Crache children's story, Where cat and wolf play etc. Each and every single one of them require player's choice (which will shape its outcome ) even influence the main story line as well. When it comes to writing quality, they are far superior than them MAIN story of DAI and MEA. So yeah MEA team obviously don't know what are they even talking about.
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