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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 18, 2017 23:25:17 GMT
It's worst than I thought.
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 18, 2017 23:26:13 GMT
When was this spelled out? Cuz it's not spelled out like that in the first 10 hours of the game. it was found in the audiofiles though determining I know this is in the spolier thread but jesus that should have a spoiler tag with it although why else would anyone go all the way to andromeda other than to escape the reapers as the milky way was still largly unexplored wonder if Cora is TIM daugter knowing that this is now legit in the game as cerburus was one of the few who knew about the reapers before 2183
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 18, 2017 23:41:14 GMT
Wait, so the AI was a way to escape the Reapers?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:44:29 GMT
Wait, so the AI was a way to escape the Reapers? There is evidence of that.
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Post by Dragon slayer on Mar 19, 2017 0:14:17 GMT
it was found in the audiofiles though determining I know this is in the spolier thread but jesus that should have a spoiler tag with it although why else would anyone go all the way to andromeda other than to escape the reapers as the milky way was still largly unexplored wonder if Cora is TIM daugter knowing that this is now legit in the game as cerburus was one of the few who knew about the reapers before 2183 sorry i wasnt aware it needed one im new on this forum
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 19, 2017 0:19:12 GMT
I know this is in the spolier thread but jesus that should have a spoiler tag with it although why else would anyone go all the way to andromeda other than to escape the reapers as the milky way was still largly unexplored wonder if Cora is TIM daugter knowing that this is now legit in the game as cerburus was one of the few who knew about the reapers before 2183 sorry i wasnt aware it needed one im new on this forum Thats fair enough I wasnt having a go if it came across like that
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 19, 2017 0:54:56 GMT
Wait, so the AI was a way to escape the Reapers? It's one of the reasons. One of the people in the game mentions there is a reason for each person who came to Andromeda. And probably more for those who knew but didn't go. But yeah, there are some files you can read that specifically state this.
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Post by boyaki on Mar 19, 2017 1:20:32 GMT
1. We know of the location of the golden worlds and their viability for life because of the stolen data from THREE repurposed mass relays that were turned into a massive magnicscope to peer into another galaxy. The premise that the geth are that technologically advanced to reengineer 3 mass relays into one "geth array" and haul those three individual relays to one building point despite not having the ability to travel through relays since they'd deactivate them first is preposterous since they'd need to haul those relays across the galaxy with regular ftl drives which would take hundreds of years. The geth became sentient 300 years ago.... 2. Alec's death. Super contrived and nothing else, it was just a bad and poorly done way to die (assuming he won't come back since we don't have a funeral scene or see his body, it would be even more contrived if the Kett have his body and turn him into something...). What happened to Cora and Liam, where were they in that scene? 3. Genophage and genetic engineering while in stasis, while in stasis..... 4. The reason for going to andromeda is still not convincing, one can argue that it's comparable to going to mars today while leaving our ocean floors not yet explored. But that's essentially apples and oranges because we can find loads of habitable garden worlds, resources and intelligent life within our galaxy since it's less than 1% explored. 1° So geth having 300 years to figure out how to repurpose a technology is somehow impossible okay sure. Nothing said they gathered them at the same place...also 3 ? you sure ? Not like they were a super intelligent race with full consensus. 2° That's just an opinion. Also Cora and Liam were fighting kett, the explosion coming from the inside shouldn't have hurt them. 3° Being in cryo does not mean a complete freeze of every vitals, that would be death. Metabolism is still working just slowly, we know from mass effect 2 that the krogan adapted with time to the genophage. 4% fertility in 634 years is not far fetched. 4° Duh. The Andromeda Iniative is about a new start, a new start would have not be possible in the milky way. Exploring the unknown was the ultimate way to create a new and better civilisation. As for the "Ai was made to escape Reaper there are datamined info" I call bullshit. Not read a single thing on the subject and I read a lot. Maybe some link to the datamined section would be great ?
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Post by Iakus on Mar 19, 2017 2:44:51 GMT
Doesn't matter. The text of the website works for what I just described. It's still bad writing if we have to head canon it, don't you agree? I admit that it's also guess work on my part assuming that they'd need to physically connect them but that possibility still means they didn't do well on writing it. They shouldn't leave things to speculation especially the premise for getting the information about habitable golden worlds and their locations. It depends on how reasonable an extrapolation that headcanon is. Hanako's explanation is reasonable unless there is something in the lore about mass relays that contradicts it. And the geth, having broken free of the Reapers' chosen path of development, are the one race who could plausibly has repurposed relays in such a manner. There is the question, of course, of WHY they did this, why they never took advantage of the Heleus cluster themselves, or if they used this method to study other galaxies, or other parts of the Milky Way. Your topic #4 is absolutely on the money though.
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Post by riou on Mar 19, 2017 4:09:54 GMT
Wait, so the AI was a way to escape the Reapers? It's one of the reasons. One of the people in the game mentions there is a reason for each person who came to Andromeda. And probably more for those who knew but didn't go. But yeah, there are some files you can read that specifically state this. I'm going to need a citation on that. The AI was founded before the start of ME1 so there's no way anyone could've known about the Reapers all the way back then.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 19, 2017 4:16:12 GMT
On the Grth relay telescope...
"The relays are made of an unknown but incredibly resilient material, the same material that the Citadel is built from, and are protected by a quantum shield that renders them nearly impervious to damage by locking their structure in place at the subatomic level."
...good luck moving one around, let a alone three.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 19, 2017 5:03:21 GMT
On the Grth relay telescope... "The relays are made of an unknown but incredibly resilient material, the same material that the Citadel is built from, and are protected by a quantum shield that renders them nearly impervious to damage by locking their structure in place at the subatomic level." ...good luck moving one around, let a alone three. Why would the shielding prevent you from moving them? Surely the "in place " in the quote refers to other components of that relay. Otherwise, we have a problem with ME1's plot. Also, I should point out that multiple relays in one system are a thing, even though it's seldom represented in-game.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 19, 2017 5:08:30 GMT
It's one of the reasons. One of the people in the game mentions there is a reason for each person who came to Andromeda. And probably more for those who knew but didn't go. But yeah, there are some files you can read that specifically state this. I'm going to need a citation on that. The AI was founded before the start of ME1 so there's no way anyone could've known about the Reapers all the way back then. Easily handwaved. Turns out there was a third Prothean beacon.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 19, 2017 5:09:10 GMT
On the topic of genetics, while it may be a valid criticism the way genetics work in most sci-fi in general is off the wall silly. In most sci-fi genetic changes mean immediate magical physical mutations (and fixing them often means suddenly changing back). The 600 year thing is trivial in comparison to typical sci-fi genetics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 5:16:58 GMT
It's one of the reasons. One of the people in the game mentions there is a reason for each person who came to Andromeda. And probably more for those who knew but didn't go. But yeah, there are some files you can read that specifically state this. I'm going to need a citation on that. The AI was founded before the start of ME1 so there's no way anyone could've known about the Reapers all the way back then. Uh, the Illusive man knew, just saying.
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Post by riou on Mar 19, 2017 5:25:48 GMT
I'm going to need a citation on that. The AI was founded before the start of ME1 so there's no way anyone could've known about the Reapers all the way back then. Uh, the Illusive man knew, just saying. Cerberus also has no connection to the AI.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 5:26:39 GMT
Uh, the Illusive man knew, just saying. Cerberus also has no connection to the AI. Why are you so sure of that?
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Post by riou on Mar 19, 2017 5:29:52 GMT
Cerberus also has no connection to the AI. Why are you so sure of that? I do believe the devs shot down a leak claiming a connection to Cerberus. Besides, it would be literally the most ham-fisted reference to the old series ever. Why in the world would TIM invest agents in a project who's goal requires 600 years to actually reach fruition? By that time the organization wouldn't exist anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 5:33:12 GMT
Why are you so sure of that? I do believe the devs shot down a leak claiming a connection to Cerberus. Besides, it would be literally the most ham-fisted reference to the old series ever. Why in the world would TIM invest agents in a project who's goal requires 600 years to actually reach fruition? By that time the organization wouldn't exist anymore. To make sure Humanity survives if his plan fails? I mean he wants to control the Reapers, but he doesn't know if that is going to work. What if he put Jien Garson on that path based on the Information he had. Also if Cora is indeed his daughter(unconfirmed) it would make sense for him to send her away with the Initiative for two reasons. 1 - So that she doesn't die fighting the reapers 2 - So she doesn't see what he can become while trying to control them. To me it stinks of Cerberus, but i don't mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 11:11:18 GMT
The writing just feels off imo.
This feels like fanfic tier dialogue
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Post by Plague Doctor on Mar 19, 2017 11:20:47 GMT
The writing just feels off imo. This feels like fanfic tier dialogue Really? I have seen flirting like this happen countless times. Its realistic, especially for people their age. Just because Ryder isnt suave doesnt mean its bad writing.
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 19, 2017 11:26:30 GMT
It's one of the reasons. One of the people in the game mentions there is a reason for each person who came to Andromeda. And probably more for those who knew but didn't go. But yeah, there are some files you can read that specifically state this. I'm going to need a citation on that. The AI was founded before the start of ME1 so there's no way anyone could've known about the Reapers all the way back then. Take a look at the datamined files.
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 19, 2017 11:28:08 GMT
On the Grth relay telescope... "The relays are made of an unknown but incredibly resilient material, the same material that the Citadel is built from, and are protected by a quantum shield that renders them nearly impervious to damage by locking their structure in place at the subatomic level." ...good luck moving one around, let a alone three. I think that refers to the actual subatomic structure. As in, it can't be broken. Benezia mentions that the Mu Relay was pushed out of position by a star that went supernova.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 11:29:40 GMT
The writing just feels off imo. *snip* This feels like fanfic tier dialogue Really? I have seen flirting like this happen countless times. Its realistic, especially for people their age. Just because Ryder isnt suave doesnt mean its bad writing. This is how people flirt nowadays? I mean sure when you're an akward teenager I can see this happening but not as 20+ year old, right? I'm 22 years old and I've never seen this happen. Maybe it's the new cool thing to do and I'm just not going with the times?
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 19, 2017 11:52:05 GMT
On the Grth relay telescope... "The relays are made of an unknown but incredibly resilient material, the same material that the Citadel is built from, and are protected by a quantum shield that renders them nearly impervious to damage by locking their structure in place at the subatomic level." ...good luck moving one around, let a alone three. I think that refers to the actual subatomic structure. As in, it can't be broken. Benezia mentions that the Mu Relay was pushed out of position by a star that went supernova. Dont forget as well the geth were working with the reapers at many points leading up to ME1 and they shared a lot including how to work their tech which the relays were reaper tech its not hard to imagine the geth using their tech to a certain extent
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