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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 18, 2017 21:07:22 GMT
Wasn't this moved-up embargo on streaming full game suppoused to be today?
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Post by Reznore on Mar 18, 2017 21:09:12 GMT
It's not the full game. But anyway so far there's not much, I saw Lady Insanity streaming a bit of the icy planet and another guy continuing the first planet.
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 18, 2017 21:12:36 GMT
Thx, gonna see where LadyInsanity is then.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 18, 2017 21:13:44 GMT
Thx, gonna see where LadyInsanity is then. she's doing multiplayer right now
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 18, 2017 21:29:17 GMT
It's the weekend so chances are that none of the big websites will be posting anything today or tomorrow. It'll probably mostly be independent streamers/YouTubers.
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Post by ceryse on Mar 18, 2017 22:03:21 GMT
The streaming numbers for Andromeda so far are very lacklustre, surprisingly so. It is actually very interesting to watch, in terms of numbers that Andromeda has been hitting compared to other games when they were in this pre-release phase, which is one of the highest streamer/viewer count phases all but a few games will ever hit (exceptions being things tied to esports or when a huge streamer decides to play a smaller game well after release).
Even before the embargo on streaming (the cut-off point of the vault) was hit the numbers of streamers/viewers for Andromeda were notably lower than comparable games at a similar point in their pre-release status (games such as Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and even Inquisition from way back when, from everything that I can recall -- I know Fallout 4, at least, was hitting averages almost 6-8x higher than Andromeda). Given the multiplayer aspect this is even more interesting.
Since the change to the embargo the numbers haven't really climbed much; brief spikes now and then when a couple streamers (who tend to average a couple thousand viewers normally) swap to it for multiplayer, but nothing substantive or prolonged.
There's only really a couple reasons for this, imo;
1) Most potential viewers are avoiding the streams for fear of spoilers. This is possible, and even likely to some degree, but a number of streamers were doing exclusively multiplayer and it still wasn't grabbing the viewers in numbers one would expect.
2) Most notable streamers simply aren't streaming the game for various reasons. This is almost certainly a big part of it; a number of streamers have dedicated audiences that simply watch whatever whomever they follow play and aren't actually watching for specific games. As to why they wouldn't be streaming it? Likely a combination of not getting as many viewers/donations, not enjoying the game, confusion over what they can show, etc., etc.. all or any (and other reasons) could all be at play. Only those streamers really know.
Addendum; also of note is that the swarm of low end streamers (those who only get a couple hundred viewers) that usually flock to these games aren't streaming it anymore due to their trials being over.
3) A general lack of interest or awareness from the general audience. This is the one that should worry EA/Bioware, even though it is impossible to quantify the degree of its existence. If this is at all a part of the reason I would likely account it to the poor PR the game has garnered over the past few weeks, general shoddiness of the PR campaign, the divisive nature of Inquisition (you either loved it or hated it, to be frank) and lingering issues regarding the ending of ME3 (like it or not some people simply shrugged their shoulders and moved on with life after that disaster -- likely never even returning for the expanded endings).
All that said, the result is clear; Andromeda is garnering a fairly luke-warm response in terms of streaming and viewership. This creates less hype and sales if only because fewer people are keeping the game in their consciousness. The memes are fairly prevalent but don't exactly spark a 'I want to look into this more' vibe (likely the opposite, unfortunately).
Last while the game has been struggling to top 10k viewers and has only peaked above that a little. I expected it to be hovering around 25k and peaking around 50-60k, to be honest, given the franchise, developer, publisher and curiosity factor after ME3 (positive and negative curiosity). Especially since certain aspects of the game actually show very well on stream (such as the multiplayer, which is actually pretty good [when you don't have people leaving lobbies constantly *personal grumble, grumble*].
The viewership numbers in the next week will be of high interest as well, as with the launch of a new game you usually see another spike of interest in stream viewers who are checking out the game to see if it is worth buying. If that doesn't happen, or is muted like the rest of the numbers have been, it could be an early warning sign of sales numbers.
Or utterly irrelevant. We just don't know enough about how these things correlate to really know the effect (or lack thereof) these things have.
Still something I find interesting to keep track of and think about.
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Post by R1Outcast on Mar 18, 2017 22:08:32 GMT
...Most potential viewers are avoiding the streams for fear of spoilers... I'm in this^ boat. I love Mass Effect's story, and I don't want it any surprises to be ruined by watching a stream. But at the same time, I really wish I could be playing the game right now. That 10 hour EA Access tease was just that...a tease.
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Post by Natashina on Mar 18, 2017 22:13:33 GMT
I know that the full review embargo is lifted on the 20th.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 18, 2017 22:13:47 GMT
The streaming numbers for Andromeda so far are very lacklustre, surprisingly so. It is actually very interesting to watch, in terms of numbers that Andromeda has been hitting compared to other games when they were in this pre-release phase, which is one of the highest streamer/viewer count phases all but a few games will ever hit (exceptions being things tied to esports or when a huge streamer decides to play a smaller game well after release). Even before the embargo on streaming (the cut-off point of the vault) was hit the numbers of streamers/viewers for Andromeda were notably lower than comparable games at a similar point in their pre-release status (games such as Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and even Inquisition from way back when, from everything that I can recall -- I know Fallout 4, at least, was hitting averages almost 6-8x higher than Andromeda). Given the multiplayer aspect this is even more interesting. Since the change to the embargo the numbers haven't really climbed much; brief spikes now and then when a couple streamers (who tend to average a couple thousand viewers normally) swap to it for multiplayer, but nothing substantive or prolonged. There's only really a couple reasons for this, imo; 1) Most potential viewers are avoiding the streams for fear of spoilers. This is possible, and even likely to some degree, but a number of streamers were doing exclusively multiplayer and it still wasn't grabbing the viewers in numbers one would expect.
2) Most notable streamers simply aren't streaming the game for various reasons. This is almost certainly a big part of it; a number of streamers have dedicated audiences that simply watch whatever whomever they follow play and aren't actually watching for specific games. As to why they wouldn't be streaming it? Likely a combination of not getting as many viewers/donations, not enjoying the game, confusion over what they can show, etc., etc.. all or any (and other reasons) could all be at play. Only those streamers really know. Addendum; also of note is that the swarm of low end streamers (those who only get a couple hundred viewers) that usually flock to these games aren't streaming it anymore due to their trials being over. 3) A general lack of interest or awareness from the general audience. This is the one that should worry EA/Bioware, even though it is impossible to quantify the degree of its existence. If this is at all a part of the reason I would likely account it to the poor PR the game has garnered over the past few weeks, general shoddiness of the PR campaign, the divisive nature of Inquisition (you either loved it or hated it, to be frank) and lingering issues regarding the ending of ME3 (like it or not some people simply shrugged their shoulders and moved on with life after that disaster -- likely never even returning for the expanded endings). All that said, the result is clear; Andromeda is garnering a fairly luke-warm response in terms of streaming and viewership. This creates less hype and sales if only because fewer people are keeping the game in their consciousness. The memes are fairly prevalent but don't exactly spark a 'I want to look into this more' vibe (likely the opposite, unfortunately). Last while the game has been struggling to top 10k viewers and has only peaked above that a little. I expected it to be hovering around 25k and peaking around 50-60k, to be honest, given the franchise, developer, publisher and curiosity factor after ME3 (positive and negative curiosity). Especially since certain aspects of the game actually show very well on stream (such as the multiplayer, which is actually pretty good [when you don't have people leaving lobbies constantly *personal grumble, grumble*]. The viewership numbers in the next week will be of high interest as well, as with the launch of a new game you usually see another spike of interest in stream viewers who are checking out the game to see if it is worth buying. If that doesn't happen, or is muted like the rest of the numbers have been, it could be an early warning sign of sales numbers. Or utterly irrelevant. We just don't know enough about how these things correlate to really know the effect (or lack thereof) these things have. Still something I find interesting to keep track of and think about. There's spoilers for that, too. I specifically cut off a stream because the player mentioned running into an enemy who sync-killed her and I didn't want to see what it was to avoid enemy types not in marketing so I won't have strategies for them before I encounter them. Even if there's nothing Banshee tier in the game, I don't want to be spoiled if there is something Banshee tier since the Banshee reveal was one of my favorite gaming moments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 22:16:25 GMT
Not surprising, it won't pickup until a big name streamer streams it (like BotW)
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 18, 2017 22:57:17 GMT
Nitpick: I don't think "ought to worry" is correct. It's never useful to worry about something that can't be wuantifiet and can't be responded to even if you could..
But that doesn't mean that they aren't actually worried
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Post by armass81 on Mar 18, 2017 23:02:24 GMT
I saw someone uploading the full game, they had gotten on the youtube. I looked at a few place without spoiling myself too much.
And yeah before you ask, yeah i can say, the animations arent getting better, some character models might be getting worse, infact some character models look worse than in the december reveal, like Sloane Kelly on Kadara(they went and changed her looks, she looks more like a gang boss now). its like shes missing a layer of skin or something, or maybe it was the bad light effect, which is worse than in the december trailer. Its pretty sloppy.
This is really bad for Montreal, the game looks unfinished in places indeed.
They clearly rushed this game out of the door.
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 18, 2017 23:04:56 GMT
Ive seen a few but have been avoiding them, I've seen a few people who have got to Kadara but dont want to spoli the game for my self even though i got EA access
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 18, 2017 23:09:57 GMT
Is there any place right now that I can see someone playing the full game?
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 18, 2017 23:13:26 GMT
Is there any place right now that I can see someone playing the full game? Loads of live streams on you tube
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Post by SofNascimento on Mar 18, 2017 23:15:38 GMT
Is there any place right now that I can see someone playing the full game? Loads of live streams on you tube I'm sorry, but that's not very helpful.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 23:20:02 GMT
Is there any place right now that I can see someone playing the full game? This stream appears to be going through single player. I only watched for half a second, but I think it's beyond where the trial allows:
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Post by n7rhysj on Mar 18, 2017 23:20:03 GMT
Loads of live streams on you tube I'm sorry, but that's not very helpful. Depends what you want MP or SP ability drain is doing MP and there a lot of outlets dong SP theres a load of people playing on twitch as well doing both SP and MP
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Post by Blackheart on Mar 18, 2017 23:30:30 GMT
I watched gameplay that goes further than trial and oh boy, I'm getting seriously concerned. Writing is sooo bad... Not talking about story, but everything else, conversations, banter, cutscenes... The game breaks immersion at every corner because of how ridiculous lines are and how bad animations and "acting" is and how lifeless npcs are. I haven't seen a single interesting NPC so far that would stick in my mind and make me want to get to know them better. In Trilogy there were plenty of NPCs who only had few lines but still made a good impression on you either by being funny, having unique personality, being goofy etc... Idk really what to think anymore about this game.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 23:32:45 GMT
I watched gameplay that goes further than trial and oh boy, I'm getting seriously concerned. Writing is sooo bad... Not talking about story, but everything else, conversations, banter, cutscenes... The game breaks immersion at every corner because of how ridiculous lines are and how bad animations and "acting" is and how lifeless npcs are. I haven't seen a single interesting NPC so far that would stick in my mind and make me want to get to know them better. In Trilogy there were plenty of NPCs who only had few lines but still made a good impression on you either by being funny, having unique personality, being goofy etc... Idk really what to think anymore about this game. Gotta say that I disagree with pretty much all of this. I like the dialogue and banter and many of the NPC's (those associated with the tempest in particular). Seems more like a subjective personal preference rather than low quality writing or voice acting.
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Post by Blackheart on Mar 18, 2017 23:35:45 GMT
I watched gameplay that goes further than trial and oh boy, I'm getting seriously concerned. Writing is sooo bad... Not talking about story, but everything else, conversations, banter, cutscenes... The game breaks immersion at every corner because of how ridiculous lines are and how bad animations and "acting" is and how lifeless npcs are. I haven't seen a single interesting NPC so far that would stick in my mind and make me want to get to know them better. In Trilogy there were plenty of NPCs who only had few lines but still made a good impression on you either by being funny, having unique personality, being goofy etc... Idk really what to think anymore about this game. Gotta say that I disagree with pretty much all of this. I like the dialogue and banter and many of the NPC's (those associated with the tempest in particular). Seems more like a subjective personal preference rather than low quality writing or voice acting. That's what I thought when I played my trial. I thought, well it's not that bad, I expected way worse from what I read from others on forum, but now that I watched videos that go further than trial I changed my mind. Of course, you might still like the other parts as well, but whatever... each to their own.
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Post by Thalandor on Mar 18, 2017 23:38:07 GMT
I watched gameplay that goes further than trial and oh boy, I'm getting seriously concerned. Writing is sooo bad... Not talking about story, but everything else, conversations, banter, cutscenes... The game breaks immersion at every corner because of how ridiculous lines are and how bad animations and "acting" is and how lifeless npcs are. I haven't seen a single interesting NPC so far that would stick in my mind and make me want to get to know them better. In Trilogy there were plenty of NPCs who only had few lines but still made a good impression on you either by being funny, having unique personality, being goofy etc... Idk really what to think anymore about this game. If it matters, I felt like you until I met PeeBee and Drack, and until I took the time to go talk to my crew in the Tempest. Then I instantly changed my mind and wanted to know more about everyone... The conversations were quite interesting, but I only got into them after I hit the story roadblock and the pressure to "rush" was off. Don't worry there are plenty of interesting characters in this game, just take the time to know them.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 23:40:19 GMT
Gotta say that I disagree with pretty much all of this. I like the dialogue and banter and many of the NPC's (those associated with the tempest in particular). Seems more like a subjective personal preference rather than low quality writing or voice acting. That's what I thought when I played my trial. I thought, well it's not that bad, I expected way worse from what I read from others on forum, but now that I watched videos that go further than trial I changed my mind. Of course, you might still like the other parts as well, but whatever... each to their own. I definitely don't like all the NPC's - Director Tann in particular doesn't seemed to be well acted. But I have enjoyed pretty much all my interactions with the companions that I've met so far, and the rest of the Tempest crew seems great as well. I also really like that many of the Nexus leaders seem to be skeptical of Ryder and his/her abilities, as they should be. Would say more, but I don't want to get into spoiler territory.
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Post by nolerhn on Mar 18, 2017 23:45:32 GMT
I stopped watching streams for a combo of fear of a spoilers, and the play style of the streamers.
Yes the game can totally be played as a cover shooter not using abilities, but I get bored watching people play like that. Im more of a power combo mad man haha.
And most of the streams I watched were people hardly using powers, if at all.
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